Home Super Brewery Build: Hybrid Electric/Gas 3BBL Build

[marcb]

So the only drawback I see with instant sparge is that you can't adjust the water profile if you need/want to right?

You can for strike certainly but yes, sparge would be a challenge. I have good water that I run through a two stage filter plus uv for purification prior to brewing and have brewed many different styles of beers very well without adjusting my water profile.....

 

[Monster Mash]

Federal law does not allow for alcohol production in a residential area unless it is zoned for agriculture. This is why they have the 200 gallons per year per adult in a household law.

 

[Sock]

Federal law does not allow for alcohol production in a residential area unless it is zoned for agriculture. This is why they have the 200 gallons per year per adult in a household law.

Booooo Hisssssss

 

[Monster Mash]

Yes it is a stupid law because you are allowed to bake cakes, cookies, bread..ect for resale but not beer. Making beer is just like baking.....

 

[marcb]

Yes it is a stupid law because you are allowed to bake cakes, cookies, bread..ect for resale but not beer. Making beer is just like baking.....

I can make a 100000000 gallons of wort per year if I want at home. I can only ferment 200g per 2 people living in a residence ; )

 

[trip2hard]

Pretty sweet setup.

 

[marcb]

Pretty sweet setup.

Thanks! Still a work in progress and feels like I change directions everyday. Got most of the garage emptied out, will finish it up today and then the demolition begins.

Anyone ever have a floor epoxied? What am I looking at cost wise for 400 sqft?

Also FRP paneling seems to be the consensus for the walls...

 

[trip2hard]

Thanks! Still a work in progress and feels like I change directions everyday. Got most of the garage emptied out, will finish it up today and then the demolition begins.

Anyone ever have a floor epoxied? What am I looking at cost wise for 400 sqft?

Also FRP paneling seems to be the consensus for the walls...

Im in the works of opening up a 3 bbl brewery in Florida. We just epoxied our floors for our tasting room which was stained first with eco stain and then a 2 part water based epoxy. It took 4 gallons to do 2 coats in 800 sqft. In the brewery area where using a grey epoxy with is also 2 part and then there's a 2 part clear that goes on top of that. I sent you a private msg yesterday. I'll send ya some pictures of or I'll start a thread maybe just been really busy with the build out. Are you wanting to paint the floor a solid color or clear what's on there now? We also rented a concrete and resurfaced the floor prior to staining and painting

 

[Dukeman9988]

Im in the works of opening up a 3 bbl brewery in Florida. We just epoxied our floors for our tasting room which was stained first with eco stain and then a 2 part water based epoxy. It took 4 gallons to do 2 coats in 800 sqft. In the brewery area where using a grey epoxy with is also 2 part and then there's a 2 part clear that goes on top of that. I sent you a private msg yesterday. I'll send ya some pictures of or I'll start a thread maybe just been really busy with the build out. Are you wanting to paint the floor a solid color or clear what's on there now? We also rented a concrete and resurfaced the floor prior to staining and painting

What are you two doing for floor drainage?

 

[Rami]

You must drink lots of beer.

Awesome build. Can't wait to see it develop.

 

[daksin]

Thanks! Still a work in progress and feels like I change directions everyday. Got most of the garage emptied out, will finish it up today and then the demolition begins.

Anyone ever have a floor epoxied? What am I looking at cost wise for 400 sqft?

Also FRP paneling seems to be the consensus for the walls...

No reason to pay someone to do epoxy- if you're even mildly DIY you can do it yourself. Sadly, the previous tenant of my space was NOT even mildly DIY.

I have epoxy in my 1000sqft brewery and it's not a choice I'd make for myself. It was put in (badly) by a previous tenant, and now it's coming up in spots and will be a pain in the ass to remove if we decide to do that. I'd clean the concrete you have and seal it. I'm also concerned about its heat/chemical tolerance.

 

[marcb]

No reason to pay someone to do epoxy- if you're even mildly DIY you can do it yourself. Sadly, the previous tenant of my space was NOT even mildly DIY.

I have epoxy in my 1000sqft brewery and it's not a choice I'd make for myself. It was put in (badly) by a previous tenant, and now it's coming up in spots and will be a pain in the ass to remove if we decide to do that. I'd clean the concrete you have and seal it. I'm also concerned about its heat/chemical tolerance.

Great info! Thanks!

 

[UNMFish]

Awesome. Sub.

 

[Bigscience]

Federal law does not allow for alcohol production in a residential area unless it is zoned for agriculture. This is why they have the 200 gallons per year per adult in a household law.

Huh.

This guy is close to me and runs out of his garage:
http://www.foggynogginbrewing.com/

This guy built a 192sqrft brewery in his back yard:
http://www.192brewing.com/

Both were licensed and sold beer. They spoke at our club and told about how hard it was for all the permits and licensing but they are residential brewers.

 

[marcb]

Huh.

This guy is close to me and runs out of his garage:
http://www.foggynogginbrewing.com/

This guy built a 192sqrft brewery in his back yard:
http://www.192brewing.com/

Both were licensed and sold beer. They spoke at our club and told about how hard it was for all the permits and licensing but they are residential brewers.

Well, there is only one way to find out for sure! I'll post my process updates here as well!

 

[Rondacker]

Cleaning out the rest of the garage to make room for the walk in as I type : )

J/K but it is definitely in the works.... I told SWMBO that I could build a big cold room in the garage for all her organic veggies....

OoH! You're a cwafty waskel..

 

[Osedax]

Wait, I live on a farm. Does this mean I can sell beer to my friends rather than give it to them for free?

 

[fastev]

This should turn into an epic thread. Mind if I post build pics of your panel straight to this thread?

 

[marcb]

This should turn into an epic thread. Mind if I post build pics of your panel straight to this thread?

Absolutely not! Dig in!

 

[HefeLibre]

Thanks! Still a work in progress and feels like I change directions everyday. Got most of the garage emptied out, will finish it up today and then the demolition begins.

Anyone ever have a floor epoxied? What am I looking at cost wise for 400 sqft?

Also FRP paneling seems to be the consensus for the walls...

Hey marcb,

I epoxied my floor last summer as part of a garage remodel. It has a slight texture to it from the colored flakes tossed into it to give it a speckled look.
Made a huge difference in the Man Cave and hid all the large cracks in the concrete.

The texture might not be ideal if wort is being spilled all over it and not hosed off regularly. But it feels grippy enough to feel safe walking on a wet floor. The guy did it for 900 bucks.

Took about 2 days. Grind down and patch cracks and first layer. Second day epoxy layer. 20X23 feet. PM me if you want pics or see it up close.

 

[mrklueber]

I epoxied my three car garage floor right after I bought the house. The garage floor was 11 years old at the time. Cleaned the floor very well per the instructions. Used the Rustoleum brand kit found at Lowes. One kit will do a single car garage and costs ~$65. I did it myself and it took about 1 1/2 days - 1 day to clean the floor and 1/2 day to apply the epoxy to all three bays. I brew in the garage and clean up of spilled wort is a breeze. Much better than bare concrete.

 

[marcb]

I epoxied my three car garage floor right after I bought the house. The garage floor was 11 years old at the time. Cleaned the floor very well per the instructions. Used the Rustoleum brand kit found at Lowes. One kit will do a single car garage and costs ~$65. I did it myself and it took about 1 1/2 days - 1 day to clean the floor and 1/2 day to apply the epoxy to all three bays. I brew in the garage and clean up of spilled wort is a breeze. Much better than bare concrete.

Sounds awesome! Given the timing and work I'm going to most likely have to pay someone to do it.

 

[marcb]

first scale sketch out of the new space, comments?

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[marcb]

first scale sketch out of the new space, comments?

sorry, just changed to jpg

 

[Monster Mash]

A standard door is about 36" so it looks like the cold room is only about 50" deep?

 

[marcb]

A standard door is about 36" so it looks like the cold room is only about 50" deep?

Yes, basically 4x8.

 

[hillhousesawdustco]

You mentioned somewhere back that you were considering going all-electric rather than using propane- does this change anything with your 100amp panel?

 

[marcb]

You mentioned somewhere back that you were considering going all-electric rather than using propane- does this change anything with your 100amp panel?

Yep. Looks like I'm doing a sub panel with 125a, two 50a and a 25a breaker. The system hasn't changed much, 11Kw per brew kettle. Both strike and sparge water will be coming from a rinnai tankless with a recirc loop.

 

[nvrstck]

I epoxied my three car garage floor right after I bought the house. The garage floor was 11 years old at the time. Cleaned the floor very well per the instructions. Used the Rustoleum brand kit found at Lowes. One kit will do a single car garage and costs ~$65. I did it myself and it took about 1 1/2 days - 1 day to clean the floor and 1/2 day to apply the epoxy to all three bays. I brew in the garage and clean up of spilled wort is a breeze. Much better than bare concrete.

+1! I've done three garages with the kits from Lowes or Home Depot and they are awesome! first I did my dads garage 24x36 about 4 years ago, my garage 22x22 two years ago and my brothers garage 24x26 a few months ago. They have all been bulletproof. It took 2 kits for mine and 3 for the others. You definitely should spend a few extra bucks and get the jar of sand grit to mix in. We didn't use enough on my dads and when you come in from the pool dripping wet, you need to be careful because it is slick. Each one took me 2-4 hours the first day to prep and acid wash then 2-3 hours the next day to epoxy. It's dry about a day later and can drive on it 3 days later. Highly recommended! I spill wort and beer all over mine and it is easy to mop up or hose out. Everyone that sees it is really impressed with how good it looks.

 

[marcb]

+1! I've done three garages with the kits from Lowes or Home Depot and they are awesome! first I did my dads garage 24x36 about 4 years ago, my garage 22x22 two years ago and my brothers garage 24x26 a few months ago. They have all been bulletproof. It took 2 kits for mine and 3 for the others. You definitely should spend a few extra bucks and get the jar of sand grit to mix in. We didn't use enough on my dads and when you come in from the pool dripping wet, you need to be careful because it is slick. Each one took me 2-4 hours the first day to prep and acid wash then 2-3 hours the next day to epoxy. It's dry about a day later and can drive on it 3 days later. Highly recommended! I spill wort and beer all over mine and it is easy to mop up or hose out. Everyone that sees it is really impressed with how good it looks.

Wow, thanks! First quote came in at $1600 for 400sf! So maybe I'll be doing it myself after all!