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Even on a Friday folks are getting there at 10:30? I would definitely agree with you on a Saturday. But I guess I haven't been up on a Friday recently so I'll just shut up.

I mean it's been a while since I've been up but yeah last Friday I went there was a line of 40 people by noon. Was not a release day either
 
Everyone should also take into consideration that lines and wait times have been steadily dropping. Tourist season is pretty much over and the colder weather is setting in. I remember going up on a Saturday last January, arriving at 12:05, and being the first person to get there...
 
really varies... we got there around 11am I think last Friday and were about 10th in line
 
Go in the afternoon between 3-4 and probably have a shorter wait than the hour and a half you'd be waiting if you went at 10:30, or the possibly more than hour and a half wait if you showed up between 12-1
Thank you for reminding people that arriving at 10:30am necessarily means at least a 1.5 hour wait. It seems people too often forget to include this in the discussion, as if waiting outside before opening does count as waiting.
 
Thank you for reminding people that arriving at 10:30am necessarily means at least a 1.5 hour wait. It seems people too often forget to include this in the discussion, as if waiting outside before opening does count as waiting.

But if you know that HF opens at noon, then you know that you're waiting from whenever you get there until they open. I'd rather get there at 10:30, wait, and be able to get on with the rest of my day.
 
But if you know that HF opens at noon, then you know that you're waiting from whenever you get there until they open. I'd rather get there at 10:30, wait, and be able to get on with the rest of my day.
Thank you for reminding people that arriving at 10:30am necessarily means at least a 1.5 hour wait. It seems people too often forget to include this in the discussion, as if waiting outside before opening does count as waiting.

yeah, as Koko points out.. I think the early thing is usually for a lot of us that are not from the area...

I've always said "if you're travelling for beer, you should never be in a rush to get in and get out"... that said, not much is going on before noon... so if I get my "wait time" out of the way early and have the rest of the afternoon to enjoy VT, that's the plan... all depends on what else the day has to offer
 
yeah, as Koko points out.. I think the early thing is usually for a lot of us that are not from the area...

I've always said "if you're travelling for beer, you should never be in a rush to get in and get out"... that said, not much is going on before noon... so if I get my "wait time" out of the way early and have the rest of the afternoon to enjoy VT, that's the plan... all depends on what else the day has to offer

Typical VT Trip

Drive up to Waterbury at night.
Late Dinner/Drinks
Sleep
Stagecoach Breakfast
HF
Scrounge up some Heady
Enjoy VT
 
Typical VT Trip

Drive up to Waterbury at night.
Late Dinner/Drinks
Sleep
Stagecoach Breakfast
HF
Scrounge up some Heady
Enjoy VT

depends if I'm doing a there and back trip or not for me....

1 day:
leave home at 4am
HF
Parker Pie
and back

overnight:
leave home at 4am
HF
Three Penny
Waterbury
Stagecoach (and breakfast)
HF
Parker Pie
and back
 
You guys are doing it wrong, here's the perfect plan for a Thursday afternoon:

3:00: leave work for a "Doctors Appointment"
4:30: arrive at HF, get (hopefully) unlimited growlers, chat with Kerrie and Phil, etc.
5:00ish: Go to Parker Pie
8:00: arrive home

Simple.
 
But if you know that HF opens at noon, then you know that you're waiting from whenever you get there until they open. I'd rather get there at 10:30, wait, and be able to get on with the rest of my day.
It's the "getting on with the rest of my day" part that makes an early arrival definitely make sense. I was just reacting to the wait-time conversation that somehow doesn't commonly seem to equate a 1.5 hour wait time outside the doors with a 1.5 hour wait time inside the doors.
 
Mornings are the way to go, get all the waiting out of the way early than to loose the whole day.

Wake up at 7AM
Out the door by 7:30AM
Get there by 10:00 - 10:30 (first in line woop!)
12:00 Buy beer, get tasters, Chat with Kerrie and Phil while they are getting my order together. ( in some cases tying up the line when one of them are more interested in chatting than speeding me through the line )
12:45 Parker Pie Lunch with at least 1 bottle of Cantillion
Home by 5PM
 
Wake up @ 4-7AM after being kicked in the gut, shins, balls and back by kid that will not stay in her own bed.
7-9AM: remove growlers from closet while watching wife negotiate tooth brushing child for 20 mins.
8:45AM: Lose caps for non-HF growlers, find them in kid's lunch box
9AM: Drop kid @ school 30-50mins late
9:15AM: Fall asleep behind tractor on 100 on/way to Mo'ville.
10AM: rethink trip to HF, toss coin for Lost Nation growler fill instead
11AM: make up excuses for not generating any income while finding ways to go to HF
NOON: Do or Die time
1-4: Drive 45-60m, wait 1-2hours, drive home...
but really.............
12:15PM - bag whole idea, smoke a bowl, pop a shelf brew
2PM: Spend next 3 hours self-loathing & trying to make money
5:30PM: Pick up child
6PM: Answer questions about why I'm cranky
 
Wake up @ 4-7AM after being kicked in the gut, shins, balls and back by kid that will not stay in her own bed.
7-9AM: remove growlers from closet while watching wife negotiate tooth brushing child for 20 mins.
8:45AM: Lose caps for non-HF growlers, find them in kid's lunch box
9AM: Drop kid @ school 30-50mins late
9:15AM: Fall asleep behind tractor on 100 on/way to Mo'ville.
10AM: rethink trip to HF, toss coin for Lost Nation growler fill instead
11AM: make up excuses for not generating any income while finding ways to go to HF
NOON: Do or Die time
1-4: Drive 45-60m, wait 1-2hours, drive home...
but really.............
12:15PM - bag whole idea, smoke a bowl, pop a shelf brew
2PM: Spend next 3 hours self-loathing & trying to make money
5:30PM: Pick up child
6PM: Answer questions about why I'm cranky

I have never driven 100 without at least 1 of the following: 1. Stuck behind an out of stater traveling 10 mph below the speed limit, 2. behind a tractor or manure truck, or 3. cow crossing.
 
Where was the part about "having a kid is the most life changing amazing thing you'll ever do as an adult"? Cause I'm not seeing it.

I'm way too selfish and stingy for kids. sounds like Hell.
Easy, there's no way you can read that post and not say that kids changed that dude's life. He was probably much happier before kids.
 
Where was the part about "having a kid is the most life changing amazing thing you'll ever do as an adult"? Cause I'm not seeing it.

I'm way too selfish and stingy for kids. sounds like Hell.
Preach on, brother!
 
Where was the part about "having a kid is the most life changing amazing thing you'll ever do as an adult"? Cause I'm not seeing it.

I'm way too selfish and stingy for kids. sounds like Hell.
Haha my 5 month old son has already made the trip from Boston-HF 4 times. The key is to have a VERY understanding wife.
 
Haha my 5 month old son has already made the trip from Boston-HF 4 times. The key is to have a VERY understanding wife.
Imagine how different the beer scene would look if it were only populated by married men with children, visiting breweries only with the blessing of very understanding wives.
 
Imagine how different the beer scene would look if it were only populated by married men with children, visiting breweries only with the blessing of very understanding wives.
I would spend way less time in line and would probably be able to get more bottles. It would be like 2012 HF again!
 
Haha my 5 month old son has already made the trip from Boston-HF 4 times. The key is to have a VERY understanding wife.

5 months isn't 3-4 years old. When you can't just shove them in a baby sling and give them a bottle...alas, a healthy baby under 18 months is glorious. No fights over clothes...just shove em in a onesie. Bam! Enjoy it.

I'm way too selfish and stingy for kids. sounds like Hell.
So am I, Adam, but it's worth it. My kid helps balance out my selfishness and she knows we love beer - so she'll be going to Vera Mae day every year they have it.
We've experienced Hell and luckily it didn't have anything to do w/ the kid. You never know...you might get conned into it.

Ok, tho...they do **** up your lifestyle.
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This is a particularly good gif/metaphor.


PS: Any thoughts on Twilight of the Idols? Brewed this year (yes or no?)
 
well said. re-reading my post it sounds like I was shitting on your choice to be a parent. I totally wasn't. It's a huge responsibility, one that I'm not ready for..thta's all.
 
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