Hill Farmstead thread

[Dino1]

My house. I'll make em bright red for you, just the way you like em

I'm still sad I'm going to miss you guys next week!

 

[Dino1]

we can only hope

Damn son,

 

[Os]

I remember the old Frida's in Stowe had HF years back. At least Edward

 

[Os]

yeah but...I wouldn't...hmmmm...I wouldn't take it as they know how to play beer pub yet...

Step in the right direction. Plus Lauren rocks

 

[Dino1]

Step in the right direction. Plus Lauren rocks

I love Lauren.

 

[Os]

I love Lauren.

Haven't met any cool beer geek that doesn't love her. All though she likes to call us all nerds

 

[Dino1]

Haven't met any cool beer geek that doesn't love her. All though she likes to call us all nerds

She used to roll in the back and make me "Mad Taco" any time of night that I arrived. She can call me whatever she wants.

 

[ajfa531]

Step in the right direction. Plus Lauren rocks

I love Lauren.

Which Lauren? Tattoos with awesome taste in music and awesome personality or other?

I've brought her yuengling before as she had expressed that she missed it. I was there last night and happy to see that she was still bartending. It was cool to hear that she really enjoys working with the new owners who seem to respond well to her input concerning keeping the customers and local brewers happy.

That being said: the were 6 magnums of Arthur around 1pm yesterday. As they were sold, the staff kept restocking. Probably saw ten total bottles.

- Joe

 

[Christian Zellersfield]

I hope the TH/SARA collab is just a prelude to the collab with Christian Zellersfield.

HMMMMMM

 

[franch]

lauren used to put on "baggage" the game show and play weird rammstein songs that contained the lyrics "you've got a pussy, i've got a dick-uh, so what's the problem?"

 

[JulianB1]

Quoting a post from Krebsy from a discussion about the hypothetical price of Ann over in an ISO:FT thread:

I'm going to put it pretty simply and you are most likely not going to agree with me but Shaun Hill reads these threads and trolls this and the other beer sites and he absolutely despises these things we are talking about right here in this thread and others. He knows Art, and the future Ann will be traded, bartered, and sold for crazy prices and it just eats at him to no avail. So putting a 40 dollar price on Art and a possible higher price on the future Ann could be his way of sticking to trade community because and I quote directly from Shaun himself " I hate this beer commodity **** " .........and that new brewery looks kind of expensive also lol

I don't disagree that that reasoning (if it's true), but I do have to wonder at what point do the high prices in the name of slowing down sales intended to use the beer as a commodity start to annoy the locals. Or would most regulars gladly trade off paying $10-20+ more for the occasional rare bottle in order to alleviate nonsense like the DBD release? I honestly don't know, maybe some of the Vermont folks can offer their opinions.

If Shaun Hill really does want to cut down on the commodification of his rare releases, while also keeping the price reasonable for those who simply want to enjoy them, perhaps the solution would be to only have them available for on-premise consumption once the expansion is finished? Maybe he's already planning to do this with some bottles, I don't know.

 

[gregkoko]

Quoting a post from Krebsy from a discussion about the hypothetical price of Ann over in an ISO:FT thread:



I don't disagree that that reasoning (if it's true), but I do have to wonder at what point do the high prices in the name of slowing down sales intended to use the beer as a commodity start to annoy the locals. Or would most regulars gladly trade off paying $10-20+ more for the occasional rare bottle in order to alleviate nonsense like the DBD release? I honestly don't know, maybe some of the Vermont folks can offer their opinions.

If Shaun Hill really does want to cut down on the commodification of his rare releases, while also keeping the price reasonable for those who simply want to enjoy them, perhaps the solution would be to only have them available for on-premise consumption once the expansion is finished? Maybe he's already planning to do this with some bottles, I don't know.

ding ding ding ding ding

 

[SecretSquirrel]

I think "on premise" for the smaller batches has been discuss on threads in the past, I assume that's the route he'll go. It's cuts down the commodity of his smaller batch stuff and even the possibility of non locals making the trek for said beer if there's a chance they can't trade it or mule it for others...

 

[Krebsy]

Quoting a post from Krebsy from a discussion about the hypothetical price of Ann over in an ISO:FT thread:



I don't disagree that that reasoning (if it's true), but I do have to wonder at what point do the high prices in the name of slowing down sales intended to use the beer as a commodity start to annoy the locals. Or would most regulars gladly trade off paying $10-20+ more for the occasional rare bottle in order to alleviate nonsense like the DBD release? I honestly don't know, maybe some of the Vermont folks can offer their opinions.

If Shaun Hill really does want to cut down on the commodification of his rare releases, while also keeping the price reasonable for those who simply want to enjoy them, perhaps the solution would be to only have them available for on-premise consumption once the expansion is finished? Maybe he's already planning to do this with some bottles, I don't know.

I think these are great points but with his growth, the new brewery equipment, and the general overall growth of craft he has to pay for it somehow. As far as the locals go thru his spite of the beer commodities game he knows people are coming from far and wide so why not charge the high prices. He can get 40 bucks for Art which probably had a run of 1500 or more bottles and still do his standards Anne, Arthur, etc... For 10 bucks because of the volume ( 2-3 cases per ) either way I know I'll be making the 4 1/2 hour drive up and pay the big bucks when Ann releases.

 

[MKtheGeneral]

 

[Frank1]

If someone came up to me at the DBD release and said: "hey, man. For $20 extra dollars you could skip all this ******** and just come up on a regular day and buy this bottle like a normal, monetary transaction" I would have been all over it.

I fall firmly into the "don't mind rarely paying a higher price for certain bottles if I can still buy my cases of $10 saisons" camp. I've spent more than $40 on mediocre bottles of wine, and I've also spent $40 on bottles of beetus from the brewery. That amount for one of the best saisons around does not bother me. No, I can't afford to buy/trade for a case of it, but who cares?

 

[franch]

Or would most regulars gladly trade off paying $10-20+ more for the occasional rare bottle in order to alleviate nonsense like the DBD release? I honestly don't know, maybe some of the Vermont folks can offer their opinions.

DBD was like $35 or 40 for a li'l bottle

 

[JulianB1]

DBD was like $35 or 40 for a li'l bottle

Yeah but that included a donation to a local charity.

 

[franch]

Yeah but that included a donation to a local charity.

irrelevant in terms of what locals(and non locals) paid and what the $4$ acolytes discuss the cost of DBD to be

 

[Frank1]

I think it was $35 but I can't remember, we got shut out of that bottle

 

[drgarage1]

Remember how there were both $60 and $100 bottles of CFH, and people with the latter wanted theirs to trade for more? Good times.

 

[Os]

truth be told... we don't know what the reason for certain prices are. We can justify things like overhead, ingredients and aging...

you can speculate that he does things because he needs to money for the expansion, or because he does it out of spite? (lulz), or because he feels his limited offerings do belong in that caliber of many of his peers who put out pricier bottles all the time.

you can try to look at the downside and talk about what it does to locals... but that's a way too simplified argument as locals can be people like Frank who have similar opinions and attitudes toward HF as many of us... or a local can be the guy who just wants growlers of Edward or Everertt

the only thing that we can know for fact is what we are comfortable spending...

I have stated before that I justify the more expensive bottle purchases by knowing that I enjoy his 10/12$ saisons year round and a ridiculously low (and local friendly) price for some top notch stuff... I also like to treat myself to a nice bottle (beer, wine, champagne, bourbon, scotch etc) every once in a while and I'm okay with spending $40 on what I trust to be a great product

 

[parkingphi]

irrelevant in terms of what locals(and non locals) paid and what the $4$ acolytes discuss the cost of DBD to be

DBD was $20 with a $15 donation attached.

 

[franch]

DBD was $20 with a $15 donation attached.

right, so $35.

 

[GreenMtnMike]

Showed up at 11:15 today. They were already pouring and maybe 5 people in front of me. I was out of there before noon with growlers, first time that's ever happened for me. They had a bunch of Florence and Convivial magnums out.

 

[tjroar]

I wonder if those magnums will last till Friday. It would make me want to go more!

 

[JbrewRI]

Will anyone trade a Florence or Convivial Magnum for a Brother Soigne Magnum? Or for other HF limited releases?

Holla @ me.

 

[Respirologist]

• Works of Love #1: Hoppy Blonde Ale with Earl Gray Tea 3.6% abv ($7/$15)

 

[tehzachatak]

****, that sounds good.

 

[Os]

• Works of Love #1: Hoppy Blonde Ale with Earl Gray Tea 3.6% abv ($7/$15)

that's the one he did with Ryan Witter