EcuPirate07
Beer is a food group
So I'll hit the highlights so this isn't too wordy, if you need more info just let me know.
I brewed about 3 weeks ago and I have an off flavor/smell. When I open the fermentation bucket I get an Inner tube smell (best way to explain it) the taste is the same as the smell. I am chalking this up to underpitching and strained yeast, but I wanted to get more seasoned brewers takes. I guess my main concern is that I don't wanna waste my time or money if it might be something else.
So where to start. I washed a WLP001 from a past brew and froze the yeast following the steps outlined here https://www.homebrewtalk.com/freezing-yeast.html
I took a 50ml vial with 20-25mls of yeast and thawed it out and pitched it into a starter. The starter only went for like maybe 24hrs at most due to I was brewing with a buddy and he had to move the brew day up for family issues. So here I assume 1)I started with a low cell count maybe 100 billion as the link states. 2)I didnt get enough time to build the cell count
On brew day I did have a little mold in my mash tun due to some water left behind and the lid placed on, but of course I cleaned and sanitized everything before the brew and of course this is pre boil. once brew was done I whirlpooled for 1 hr then dropped the temp down to the mid 60's or what I thought was the 60's (turns out thermometer was on the fritz and it was actually 80) I realized this in less than 15mins and dropped the temp down to 60 with a quick ice bath.
below is the recipe that I made trying to do a Stone Delicious clone. all my sanitation was on point and there isnt and never was any sign of infection. I was also supposed to dry hop but due to this im not going to.
So, should I keep course and let it sit longer (seems hard to do for an IPA) or just count my loses and dump the batch? I just want to pin point where my problem is so like I said before im not wasting my time or money.
Thanks for the help.
Type: All Grain
Batch Size: 5.50 gal
Boil Size: 6.99 gal
Boil Time: 60 min
End of Boil Vol: 6.24 gal
Final Bottling Vol: 4.75 gal
Fermentation: Ale, Two Stage
Date: 10 Aug 2015
Brewer:
Asst Brewer:
Equipment: Grant's Equipment All Grain
Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 78.5 %
Total Water Needed: 9.49 gal
Mash or Steep Grains
Mash Ingredients
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
14 lbs 0.2 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM)
11.5 oz Munich Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 2
5.9 oz Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM) Grain 3
Mash Steps
Name Description Step Temperature Step Time
Mash In Add 4.50 gal of water at 164.2 F 152.0 F 60 min
Batch sparge with 2 steps (Drain mash tun , 4.99gal) of 168.0 F water
First Wort Hops
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
1.00 oz Amarillo [9.50 %] - First Wort 60.0 min Hop 4 29.7 IBUs
0.40 oz Centennial [8.70 %] - First Wort 60.0 min Hop 5 10.9 IBUs
Add water to achieve boil volume of 6.99 gal
Estimated pre-boil gravity is 1.061 SG
Boil Ingredients
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
1.30 oz El Dorado [11.40 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 6 42.2 IBUs
1.00 oz El Dorado [11.50 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 7 19.8 IBUs
1.00 oz Hop [4.40 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 8 7.6 IBUs
0.50 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 mins) Fining 9 -
Steeped Hops
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
2.00 oz El Dorado [11.40 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 60.0 min Hop 10 32.4 IBUs
2.00 oz Hop [4.40 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 60.0 min Hop 11 12.5 IBUs
1.00 oz El Dorado [11.40 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 30.0 min Hop 12 12.5 IBUs
1.00 oz Hop [4.40 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 30.0 min Hop 13 4.8 IBUs
Estimated Post Boil Vol: 6.24 gal and Est Post Boil Gravity: 1.072 SG
Cool and Transfer Wort
I brewed about 3 weeks ago and I have an off flavor/smell. When I open the fermentation bucket I get an Inner tube smell (best way to explain it) the taste is the same as the smell. I am chalking this up to underpitching and strained yeast, but I wanted to get more seasoned brewers takes. I guess my main concern is that I don't wanna waste my time or money if it might be something else.
So where to start. I washed a WLP001 from a past brew and froze the yeast following the steps outlined here https://www.homebrewtalk.com/freezing-yeast.html
I took a 50ml vial with 20-25mls of yeast and thawed it out and pitched it into a starter. The starter only went for like maybe 24hrs at most due to I was brewing with a buddy and he had to move the brew day up for family issues. So here I assume 1)I started with a low cell count maybe 100 billion as the link states. 2)I didnt get enough time to build the cell count
On brew day I did have a little mold in my mash tun due to some water left behind and the lid placed on, but of course I cleaned and sanitized everything before the brew and of course this is pre boil. once brew was done I whirlpooled for 1 hr then dropped the temp down to the mid 60's or what I thought was the 60's (turns out thermometer was on the fritz and it was actually 80) I realized this in less than 15mins and dropped the temp down to 60 with a quick ice bath.
below is the recipe that I made trying to do a Stone Delicious clone. all my sanitation was on point and there isnt and never was any sign of infection. I was also supposed to dry hop but due to this im not going to.
So, should I keep course and let it sit longer (seems hard to do for an IPA) or just count my loses and dump the batch? I just want to pin point where my problem is so like I said before im not wasting my time or money.
Thanks for the help.
Type: All Grain
Batch Size: 5.50 gal
Boil Size: 6.99 gal
Boil Time: 60 min
End of Boil Vol: 6.24 gal
Final Bottling Vol: 4.75 gal
Fermentation: Ale, Two Stage
Date: 10 Aug 2015
Brewer:
Asst Brewer:
Equipment: Grant's Equipment All Grain
Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 78.5 %
Total Water Needed: 9.49 gal
Mash or Steep Grains
Mash Ingredients
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
14 lbs 0.2 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM)
11.5 oz Munich Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 2
5.9 oz Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM) Grain 3
Mash Steps
Name Description Step Temperature Step Time
Mash In Add 4.50 gal of water at 164.2 F 152.0 F 60 min
Batch sparge with 2 steps (Drain mash tun , 4.99gal) of 168.0 F water
First Wort Hops
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
1.00 oz Amarillo [9.50 %] - First Wort 60.0 min Hop 4 29.7 IBUs
0.40 oz Centennial [8.70 %] - First Wort 60.0 min Hop 5 10.9 IBUs
Add water to achieve boil volume of 6.99 gal
Estimated pre-boil gravity is 1.061 SG
Boil Ingredients
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
1.30 oz El Dorado [11.40 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 6 42.2 IBUs
1.00 oz El Dorado [11.50 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 7 19.8 IBUs
1.00 oz Hop [4.40 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 8 7.6 IBUs
0.50 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 mins) Fining 9 -
Steeped Hops
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
2.00 oz El Dorado [11.40 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 60.0 min Hop 10 32.4 IBUs
2.00 oz Hop [4.40 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 60.0 min Hop 11 12.5 IBUs
1.00 oz El Dorado [11.40 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 30.0 min Hop 12 12.5 IBUs
1.00 oz Hop [4.40 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 30.0 min Hop 13 4.8 IBUs
Estimated Post Boil Vol: 6.24 gal and Est Post Boil Gravity: 1.072 SG
Cool and Transfer Wort