Guate Brewing

[pacayaforhops]

Ok then, how about sat sept 7th?

 

[nsaubes]

That should work for me, either the 7th or 14th!

 

[Curtis2010]

Ok then, how about sat sept 7th?

Works for me.

Location?

 

[pacayaforhops]

Works for me.

Location?

Cheers Z10 was pretty homebrew-friendly last time, though if anybody has a better choice I'm all ears.

 

[rappyfreak]

Works for me, let me know, if I come up with a good place to meet will let you guys know

 

[Curtis2010]

Works for me too.

 

[Curtis2010]

Time?

 

[pacayaforhops]

Time?

I'll let you guys know the 1st weekend of august, I might not be working at the same place after the 9th, so my schedule might open up considerably.

 

[hopbrad]

finally got myself some liquid LME here in Nicaragua.
anyway, the rep did not know if it was light, dark or amber. and their packaging has nothing. just says its from Maltexco.
for any of you that are familiar with their LME, maybe you can help tell from these pictures

Thanks!

 

[pacayaforhops]

It's the same we get here, its dark LME; though it doesn't have much of a roasted character, it's equivalent to mostly base and darker caramel malts.

A full container in a 5 gallon batch will get you roughly OG 1.045 and 13 SRM, works well for medium scotch ales, basic pale ales or as a base for more complex ales; not so much for lagers unless you use pils malt and adjuncts to thin it down.

10 pounds of this, and 4 oz of brown malt steeped will get you a killer old ale wort that pairs well with S-04/nottingham/any highly attenuative ale yeast, comes to about 6.5% ABV with lots of caramel and a little burnt biscuit at the back. Goes well with spicy UK hops or citrussy US hops.

I've been dialing down on my LME use to make it last more and have been using about a pound of light brown sugar, along with home malted 6-row, oats or rice flour and light caramel malt coupled with a more moderate hop schedule for basic premium bitters.

 

[hopbrad]

nice, i tasted it and didn't notice much roasted. and 13 SRM isnt bad for a dark LME, so im hoping to be able to use it as a base for my pale ales/IPAs. possibly sub in a lb of light DME and/or some sugar to lighten it up.
my standard is usually about 7-8 lbs of light DME, with 8oz of crystal and 8 oz of Aromatic Malt, S-05 with 5-7 oz of various citrussy hops. im thinking take out the crystal since it is probably already in this extract.

the old ale sounds nice, ill try that when i get my hands on some brown malt.
i have some special roast, s-04 and cascade lying around so might give that a go too

thanks for the info. im sure ill have more questions and will be sure to post results as they come.

 

[pacayaforhops]

Sure, let us know how it turns out.

 

[ammymorcle]

Thanks for posting nice information.

 

[Curtis2010]

Sure, let us know how it turns out.

Pacaya, I assume that Dist Caribe stocks this LME?

 

[Curtis2010]

As we slowly travel back to Guate I am putting together my brewing supplies order for my upcoming brewing season. Anybody interested in doing a group buy?

This would not likely save us much on the items but would on shipping vs individual orders.

 

[Curtis2010]

Oh, and all the brews listed in secondary on my signature lines are in fact still in secondary (since we left in March). So, I should have some interesting samples for our reunion in Sept!

 

[Curtis2010]

Wow, I noticed we are up to 12 members now!

How many of you might make it to the Sept 7 reunion?

 

[pacayaforhops]

Pacaya, I assume that Dist Caribe stocks this LME?

That's right, you can just barely make out the DC logo on the 1st picture; upper left side of the jug's label.

 

[pacayaforhops]

As we slowly travel back to Guate I am putting together my brewing supplies order for my upcoming brewing season. Anybody interested in doing a group buy?

This would not likely save us much on the items but would on shipping vs individual orders.

Thanks for the offer, but I'm flat broke right now (and probably will remain so for the next 18 months, I'm gearing up to finish my studies by the end of next year). I did manage to stock up on LME NOV last year (6 jugs, down to 2.2 ATM), so it should last me well into next year. More equipment, I could really use; but it'll have to wait, then again I might just surprise you and take you up on the offer if I do quit and get a decent severance.

 

[viso88]

Wow, I noticed we are up to 12 members now!

How many of you might make it to the Sept 7 reunion?

I am in for the september reunion!!!

 

[nsaubes]

Curtis: when/where/how are you planning to order? I might be interested to order something... Let me know!

 

[nsaubes]

About the DC LME: my first batch using this product is actually fermenting right know, so I'll tell later about the final results. I used 4.5 lbs of it, along with 3.5 lbs of home malted barley, 1/2 lbs home roasted kinda amber malt, 1/2 lbs home roasted kinda pale chocolate, and 1/2 lbs panela (turbinado). I added the LME and panela half way into the boil. Hops: nugget+willamette. I also added some local chile (pasillas and guaque, 5 minutes boil..). Fermenting with S05. OG 1.052. I was hopping to make a kind of "chile brown ale", but it's a bit paler than what I had hoped... Here are my impressions at first sample (one week, grav. 1.012): it feels pretty dry, as I was hoping more residual sweetness from LME... Maybe it's the effect of the late addition into the boil + panela... The chile has not come up yet, I might add more into the fermenter for one week (kind of dry chilliing...).

This product is from Maltexco, a chilean malting company, which seems to produce good quality malts... This actually gave me the idea to speak with DC to see if they could import other products from this company (let's say base malt, plus a couple of specialty grains....). So I'm still waiting for an answer/proposal, but I think it would be possible if we could guarantee them that we gonna buy a certain quantity of the product... Well, anyway I'll update you about this when they give me an answer.

 

[pacayaforhops]

Good to know. I've been dreaming of scoring some more DME from Maltexco, it's by far the best of the 2 extracts and it's light extract, so you can color your beer to your liking. I'd be game on buying some as soon as I'm done paying for tuition this next month.

Late addition prevents kettle caramelization which usually adds to residual sweetness, a late addition will be akin to base malt with just over 1/2 a pound of light (10-20L) crystal malt; an early addition will be closer to base malt with about a 1/2 pound of medium (40-60L) crystal malt. Panela and other mildly refined sugars will usually give it a caramel smell but not much of a flavor, they'll usually dry the beer out and lower the FG to about 1.010 or less, depending on how much you use.

 

[nsaubes]

Thanks for those inputs Pacaya, next time I'll try a batch with 100% DC LME plus a little sugar, to see the results, maybe with an IPA...

 

[pacayaforhops]

For a full 5 gal batch, a full jug of LME and 1 pound of sugar puts you in british IPA territory with OG ~1.054. An early addition would be advisable for this as an IPA, since it'll increase the malt profile's complexity slightly.

I'd recommend using some coarse crushed biscuit/brown/amber/victory malt to accentuate the bready profile, maybe 6 oz steeped at mashout temperatures for about 40 minutes so you don't get as much tannin out of it.

I'd also recommend a prolonged low alpha hop schedule, maybe Willamete/Fuggles/Styrian Goldings/EKGoldings for british IPA or Centennial (later additions)/Cascade/Chinook (also later additions)/Citra/Simcoe/Amarillo for american IPA.

 

[rappyfreak]

Curtis, what kind of stuff are you thinking for the group buy? I might def be game

 

[nsaubes]

For a full 5 gal batch, a full jug of LME and 1 pound of sugar puts you in british IPA territory with OG ~1.054. An early addition would be advisable for this as an IPA, since it'll increase the malt profile's complexity slightly.

I'd recommend using some coarse crushed biscuit/brown/amber/victory malt to accentuate the bready profile, maybe 6 oz steeped at mashout temperatures for about 40 minutes so you don't get as much tannin out of it.

I'd also recommend a prolonged low alpha hop schedule, maybe Willamete/Fuggles/Styrian Goldings/EKGoldings for british IPA or Centennial (later additions)/Cascade/Chinook (also later additions)/Citra/Simcoe/Amarillo for american IPA.

Thanks Pacaya for the recipe inputs! I'll try something like that!

 

[Curtis2010]

Curtis, what kind of stuff are you thinking for the group buy? I might def be game

I will be ordering ingredients. Probably from Austin Homebrew. If we order some common base grains it might be worthwhile to share shipping on TransCargo.

I will definatelty be brewing more Pils this season so a Pils malt and very light DME are on the list.

Any ingredients that might be useful for you?

 

[hopbrad]

About the DC LME: my first batch using this product is actually fermenting right know, so I'll tell later about the final results. I used 4.5 lbs of it, along with 3.5 lbs of home malted barley, 1/2 lbs home roasted kinda amber malt, 1/2 lbs home roasted kinda pale chocolate, and 1/2 lbs panela (turbinado). I added the LME and panela half way into the boil. Hops: nugget+willamette. I also added some local chile (pasillas and guaque, 5 minutes boil..). Fermenting with S05. OG 1.052. I was hopping to make a kind of "chile brown ale", but it's a bit paler than what I had hoped... Here are my impressions at first sample (one week, grav. 1.012): it feels pretty dry, as I was hoping more residual sweetness from LME... Maybe it's the effect of the late addition into the boil + panela... The chile has not come up yet, I might add more into the fermenter for one week (kind of dry chilliing...).

This product is from Maltexco, a chilean malting company, which seems to produce good quality malts... This actually gave me the idea to speak with DC to see if they could import other products from this company (let's say base malt, plus a couple of specialty grains....). So I'm still waiting for an answer/proposal, but I think it would be possible if we could guarantee them that we gonna buy a certain quantity of the product... Well, anyway I'll update you about this when they give me an answer.

awesome! the rep i spoke to here said she could have them bring in anything the guatemala HQ carries. light DME would be my top preference. so keep us posted. between me and my friends, we'd probably be good for orders of 2-3 5 gallon batches a month.

 

[Curtis2010]

I am in for the september reunion!!!

Great! Hope more of us can make it too.