Group Buy in Chicago #6

[ghoti]

By reporting I meant the sheets the Bill prints and gathers our signatures at pickup time.. but I think I understand better now how it adds to your individual order.

I will setting up the sheets to print out like it does on your order, so it will just list of your items. Maybe I will designate something on the spreadsheet that will note splits

 

[bmason1623]

Gotcha. That sounds good to me.

 

[heferly]

I like the limiting of base malts, but in (maybe) my sole interest, extend the bases out...i.e. 2-row is different than golden promise, is different than maris, is different than ____...most 2 rows are the same, but that golden promise...

 

[forstmeister]

I will setting up the sheets to print out like it does on your order, so it will just list of your items. Maybe I will designate something on the spreadsheet that will note splits

One concern: if no one is responsible for a split, would that leave bill responsible for the actual splitting, or just have the participants measure out theirs on arrival?

 

[kalifornsky]

Bill, thanks again for setting this up! Hope you enough the RIS and black IPA I left with you!

 

[Demon]

One concern: if no one is responsible for a split, would that leave bill responsible for the actual splitting, or just have the participants measure out theirs on arrival?

Participants measuring is fine. Aside from me taking an extra pound of hops I shouldn't have (PM me if I have your hops), it worked fine at Bill's for me to measure out my hops and grain splits then toss a new zip tie on the sack. With the new spreadsheet format we won't have the same issue as with my stupidity upon pickup.

This leaves no additional labor on Bill's part if we handle the weighing ourselves. I would suggest though that any split participants are required to bring a bucket for grain.

 

[bmason1623]

Ah-hah! I was wondering why the canadian 2-row bag looked larger. Those crazy canadians! I'll take the extra 5lb

Did you check with the person who picked up for you? Maybe you two have each other's grain.

 

[Neopol]

At least it was 2-row for same, if the accidental recipient notices they could work it out next buy. What's the difference ? $2 or so.

 

[bmason1623]

I have 3 bags of 2-row that were shipped in place of organic pilsen and vienna. If they don't exchange them and I have to purchase the correct grain would anyone be interested in the 3 bags? I have more than enough grain so I can't keep it myself.

 

[mikescooling]

I'll buy it!

 

[ghoti]

I can take some as well, as I am using 45 pounds of 2-row grain today.

 

[TheBreweryUnderground]

I like the idea of limiting the base malts, keeps things simple. I'd vote for the canada 2-row and buying the more traditional malts, as in TF anything, Best Maltz Vienna, etc. I would also like to try that czech pils malt next buy. Has anyone noticed any difference between the franco-belges stuff vs. anything else?

Also if we're buying enough 2-row then maybe we should just buy a full ton tote and have people bring their own buckets/bags. That might add some work of weighing out stuff, but it would require no searching for sacks, at least of 2-row. It would also cut out the unnecessary bags if people just put it straight into buckets. You save something like 5 cents a pound which ends up being an extra few sacks at the end, just a thought.

Bill did those sacks of wheat come in yet? I could pick up tomorrow if so.

 

[bmason1623]

Bill did those sacks of wheat come in yet? I could pick up tomorrow if so.

it should be arriving fedex today.

 

[bmason1623]

ok. here's the latest on the missing grain:

(2) GW-OWHT TBU should arrive today.

(1) GW-O2RP Arcticz1 being picked up tomorrow.

(1) GW-O2RP martyphee being picked up tomorrow.

(1) BZ-VIEN cyclogenesis will be substituted for the Franco Belges Vienna and picked up tomorrow.

(1) 50 Lb. bucket of PBW ypaul2000 is being picked up tomorrow.

(1) Oak Spirals gothic_horror being picked up tomorrow.

Anyone free tomorrow during the day? Maybe we can meet somewhere in the vicinity of 290/294/88 which is Hillside I believe. I will have everything with me. Let me know.

 

[bmason1623]

I have 3 bags of 2-row that were shipped in place of organic pilsen and vienna. If they don't exchange them and I have to purchase the correct grain would anyone be interested in the 3 bags? I have more than enough grain so I can't keep it myself.

ok, both ghoti and mikescooling expressed interest in this. Can one person take 2 and the other 1 bag? can we let ghoti take preference since he did create the database? what do you guys think?

 

[Neopol]

I am of the mindset that we shouldn't impose limits on ones options, especially now that hey have opened up even more options.

I certainly do not mind schlepping sacks around for a short time while picking up. Maybe an extra pallet or two being handy so instead of quadruple handling sacks, larger orders can get sorted and stacked to the side while digging for whatever secondary grain you were initially after.

 

[bmason1623]

What do people think about allowing the warehouse to automatically make substitutions on out of stock grains? This way everything gets delivered at once. Just throwing it out there.

 

[Neopol]

Personally, I'd rather mine get cancelled than subbed or an option to sub myself. I had this happen a couple buys ago with honey malt...I ordered a couple pounds online and I tried again the next run...

 

[srbailey]

The end of this week, early next week, I plan on starting to look into getting a hop buy going. Would people be interested in hop leaf and/or pellets only? The leaf would need to be added to the database. The leaf comes in full, 1/4 and mini bales: not sure of the weights. The pellets come in 11 and 44 pound cartons. Discuss.

I like pellets better.

 

[mikescooling]

ok, both ghoti and mikescooling expressed interest in this. Can one person take 2 and the other 1 bag? can we let ghoti take preference since he did create the database? what do you guys think?

Yea, ghoti you da man! I'm as easy going as it gets. Thanks both you guys for your hard work.

 

[srbailey]

Been offline for a couple of days.

Back to the hallertauer (or maybe mt hood), it was marked as hallertauer though. I think I also have a 1 lb bag frozen in a vac pak that belongs to another person. I will happily ship them to the rightful owner. Sorry for the mix up.

 

[Neopol]

Bill, any of that need to make it west as far as Yorkville? Rt47 & veterans parkway, I have a job site I need to run to late AM after I go look at a skid of ball and pin kegs.

Anyone have experience with the stud converters from pin to ball, I now there are 2 sizes and tc's? Should be a no brainer, but somehow that statement alone tends to bite back.

 

[srbailey]

Most of the time I would be okay with a substitution of like grain. Less so on hops.

 

[ghoti]

ok, both ghoti and mikescooling expressed interest in this. Can one person take 2 and the other 1 bag? can we let ghoti take preference since he did create the database? what do you guys think?

I will take one bag. If you will be in Hillside tomorrow, I can swing by and pick it up.

 

[bmason1623]

I will take one bag. If you will be in Hillside tomorrow, I can swing by and pick it up.

ok. email/PM your number. Can you take cyclogenesis' sack of vienna too? He lives in Clarendon Hills and can pick up by you. Thanks.

 

[bmason1623]

Here's what's available for hops spot purchase. prices are as good if not better than MCM. Should we start a hops buy? We may have to do it the old way with compiling a spreadsheet. Let me know. And please, do not ask where Neopol and I are sourcing from. If we told you we'd have to kill ya.


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[ghoti]

Sure I can pick up his sack as well. email is on it's way

 

[ThirstT]

Bill, with so many hops being sold out, it may be worth it to hold off on the hops until the new crops come in. Do you have any way of finding out when the new crops will be in, or if they already are?

 

[bmason1623]

Bill, with so many hops being sold out, it may be worth it to hold off on the hops until the new crops come in. Do you have any way of finding out when the new crops will be in, or if they already are?

I will ask but keep in mind that the new crops may already be sold out due to contract commitments...

 

[TheBreweryUnderground]

SIMCOE! Depending on the price I would be down for 1-3#