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im brewing tonight, last 25lbs of two row i have goes in the tun, i guess i will start doing wired things around Sunday
 
Received the following email a few minutes ago. I am going to substitute the TF-MOPA (Thomas Fawcett Maris Otter) with BD-MOPA (Bairds); and the GW-PALE (Great Western) I am going to substitute with BD-PALE (Bairds) if that's ok with everyone. On the other out of stock items I will send a message to the people who ordered them and ask them what they want as a replacement.

"Good Morning Bill,


I am processing the quote that you submitted to us on Wednesday, 2/29. I apologize for the delay in getting this information to you. We have just transitioned in to a new software system and at this time your quote has a “hold” on it that will not allow me to send you the quote until corporate releases it Monday morning. I did want to notify you of some out of stock items in the meantime to see how you would like me to proceed with your order. I show the following items as out of stock at my Mid Country warehouse:



TF MOPA (9)

GW C-40 (1)

BZ-MELN (1)

GW-PALE (1)

TF-OPTIC (1)

11# Czech Saaz"






I am not sure if you would like to sub other varieties in their place or if you would us to drop ship these items to you from our North Country facility at no additional charge to you.

Also, I am unable to include the packages of the Oak chips on this order as they are a BrewCraft item and we are unable to sell their items to home brew customers/clubs. I do apologize for any inconvenience this may pose.

As of right now, without the items listed above invoiced, your total order amount is $4162.55. Please let me know how you would like to proceed with the stock outs and I will get this quote wrapped up for you, and hopefully printed, on Monday morning J

Thank you for your continued support! Have a great weekend!!

EDIT: I'm replacing GW-PALE with CM-PALE.
 
So Basically I need people to tell me what to substitute for the following:

GW C-40 (1)--polboy, inverted, ryanmcl

BZ-MELN (1)--neopol

TF-OPTIC (1)--PseudoChef

11# Czech Saaz--polboy, starman, neopol, thebreweryunderground, ryanmcl, PseudoChef, wegz15
 
For the Saaz it looks like they don't have any substitutes (Lublin, Sterling, Ultra, Vangaurd), but I would be willing to go for Styrian Goldings or Perle.
 
I would be willing to go Styrian for the hops as well.

I will get back to you in a few about the sub for the Optic. That kinda has me bummed.
 
im fine with any other crystal 40, for hops i dont know now, i guess it will not go through but im low on hops now so if we decide to buy something im in anyway (ie cascade or goldings)
 
I think that a good substitute would be:

1: BZ-ARO Aromatic
Or
2:BZ-DMUN Dark Munich
or
3:GB-Honey Honey Malt

in that order...

Hops I am flexible...I am a recipe tweeker..I will go with the consensus on the same amount..

Oak chips "OUT" no problem
 
So Basically I need people to tell me what to substitute for the following:

GW C-40 (1)--polboy, inverted, ryanmcl

BZ-MELN (1)--neopol

TF-OPTIC (1)--PseudoChef

11# Czech Saaz--polboy, starman, neopol, thebreweryunderground, ryanmcl, PseudoChef, wegz15

I'm cool with whatever on the C-40 as well. So you can probably book us for this one instead.

TF‐CRY45 Crystal Malt I

Cool, inverted, polboy?
 
I'm fine with whatever. I just bought a pound each of ctz, tett, and perle from kosmokramer. Came out to about $10 a pound.
 
Ryanmcl and Starman, what's your take on hops? I'm looking for something continental to be used in a lot of Belgian styles so Styrian Goldings are my preference but it'd be great to have a consensus.
 
Only three more items more to update:

GW C-40 (1)--polboy, inverted, ryanmcl

BZ-MELN (1)--neopol

11# Czech Saaz--polboy, starman, neopol, thebreweryunderground, ryanmcl, PseudoChef, wegz15
 
Only *two* more items more to update:

GW C-40 (1)--polboy, inverted, ryanmcl

11# Czech Saaz--polboy, starman, neopol, thebreweryunderground, ryanmcl, PseudoChef, wegz15
 
If I'm reading right, it looks like we have feedback from Czech Saaz players (except Ryanmcl) somewhat agreeable to substitution of 11# Styrian Goldings HU-90STG. PseuodoChef is willing to go 2#, so worst case and Ryan wants out we still should be good to order. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

It's cheaper than ~4oz from B&G so I say unleash the hounds.
 
starman said:
if i'm reading right, it looks like we have feedback from czech saaz players (except ryanmcl) somewhat agreeable to substitution of 11# styrian goldings hu-90stg. Pseuodochef is willing to go 2#, so worst case and ryan wants out we still should be good to order. Please correct me if i'm wrong.

It's cheaper than ~4oz from b&g so i say unleash the hounds.

+1
 
Im not crazy about getting 2lbs of styrian golding, from what i read its very similar to willamette and i still have more than 1/2lb of this
How about getting german Tettnanger instead of Saaz? its $9.3/lb (HU‐90GTT) if its available (i think thats the closest sub for saaz), in case its not available how much longer would it take to get saaz from another warehouse as they offer?

For crystal40 im fine with any substitution available
If I'm reading right, it looks like we have feedback from Czech Saaz players (except Ryanmcl) somewhat agreeable to substitution of 11# Styrian Goldings HU-90STG. PseuodoChef is willing to go 2#, so worst case and Ryan wants out we still should be good to order. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

It's cheaper than ~4oz from B&G so I say unleash the hounds.
 
Im not crazy about getting 2lbs of styrian golding, from what i read its very similar to willamette and i still have more than 1/2lb of this
How about getting german Tettnanger instead of Saaz? its $9.3/lb (HU‐90GTT) if its available (i think thats the closest sub for saaz), in case its not available how much longer would it take to get saaz from another warehouse as they offer?

For crystal40 im fine with any substitution available

What about you just take one pound and I'll take your other? Then we can see where we stand with ryan. I personally don't think Tetts are that close to Saaz - they really don't have that spicy characteristic that is almost trademarked to Saaz. I'm just now on a last ounce of Tett from 2-3 years ago, I think. I could do it so as to not put a halt to the group, but would be less excited about the Tett.
 
What about you just take one pound and I'll take your other? Then we can see where we stand with ryan. I personally don't think Tetts are that close to Saaz - they really don't have that spicy characteristic that is almost trademarked to Saaz. I'm just now on a last ounce of Tett from 2-3 years ago, I think. I could do it so as to not put a halt to the group, but would be less excited about the Tett.

Sure i will go for it, 1LB of SG for me please and i will look for 1lb of saaz somewhere else.
Starman do you think you can make a list with ppl for hops substitution?, im sure Bill's head spins right now from all this hops rumbling
 
bmason1623 said:
I am not sure if you would like to sub other varieties in their place or if you would us to drop ship these items to you from our North Country facility at no additional charge to you.
CM-PALE.

If we want the saaz.
 
I am good to go with whatever the majority wants to do on the hops. Count me in for a pound of the substitution.
 
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