Group Buy: Accuflex Bev-Seal Ultra barrier line

[JuanMoore]

I just ordered a bunch of those from mcmaster - you have any idea about how much resistance they add?

Probably like most kegging questions... it doesn't really matter. You simply need to ball park it then do some trial and error.

Not sure, as I've never used them myself. If you run a search and read what others have experienced using them I'm sure you could get a pretty close estimate.

I was refering back to this quote when the poster referred to using 8 ft instead of 12 ft for his calculations.

That was my post, and you're misreading it. I used to use 12' of line per tap when I was using vinyl lines, even though the calculator told me I only needed 8'. This is partially due to the fact that not all vinyl line has the same resistance. When I switched to barrier lines, I needed 18' of line per tap. What I was trying to get across, is that even though I only needed to increase my line length by 1.5x when switching to barrier line, it's likely that many people will need to increase it by 2x or more.

 

[CidahMastah]

I'm slightly concerned about some old postings about the 3/16 not being manufactured even though it is listed on the mfg website. The standard distributor (Manitowoc) won't sell it, but Accuflex/Kuriyama then pointed me to APEX and they say they can get it. Worst case is that we're out nothing except the time to do these postings.

-ls

outside

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f35/people-happy-their-bevlex-200-a-217400/

FYI - check out post #4


looks like for sure they make and sell the 3/16 in 1000' rolls only. If we can't get a hook up we should check in with "heynopie" and see who they bought from.


JuanMoore

thanks - I wish I could say... I have bevlex @ X feet which = X Resistance,... then figure it out exactly for the replacement line and cut. But owning and using the keg system for a while makes me realize that is just crazy talk.

i.e. cut it long

 

[outside92129]

Hi All- sorry about not responding individually but if you've posted and/or sent me a PM i have you down. I'll post everyone's name and quanity on the 28th to confirm and will place the order on the 29th.

So far we have 3400 feet committed for the 3/16. Sorry Cidahmastah but you're the only one who wants 1/4. I'll order you 1000' if you want though : )

I want to place the order before asking folks to pony up. It does put me at a small risk but i'd rather do that than have everyone pay and then finding out there's an issue w/ getting the 3/16.

 

[CidahMastah]

Hi All- sorry about not responding individually but if you've posted and/or sent me a PM i have you down. I'll post everyone's name and quanity on the 28th to confirm and will place the order on the 29th.

So far we have 3400 feet committed for the 3/16. Sorry Cidahmastah but you're the only one who wants 1/4. I'll order you 1000' if you want though : )

I want to place the order before asking folks to pony up. It does put me at a small risk but i'd rather do that than have everyone pay and then finding out there's an issue w/ getting the 3/16.

Sounds good.

er ... em... think I will pass on the 1000' of 1/4 - chi company here I come.

Let us know about payment and hopefully folks will offer you the same courtesy you are offering us.

Thanks!

 

[phreaky]

I would be in for 150' of 3/16 if there's still space on a roll. Thanks.

 

[msa8967]

I have some epoxy sticks from McMaster-Carr to try using. I still want to order 100 feet to try taking care of 6 beer lines and 2 soda lines by also using the epoxy sticks.

 

[EFaden]

I ran one of the other group buys and helped acquire the spools for the other ones. outside, just PMed you.

 

[JonBoy47]

You can count me in for 100' of 3/16. I sent you a PM as well. Thanks again for setting this up!

 

[Scuba0459]

You can put me down for 150' of 3/16th.

Thank you.

Albert

 

[CidahMastah]

I would like to add another 100 feet to my buy if possible (my buddy wants some).

If it works out, please put me down for 200ft of the 3/16 total instead of the original 100.

Thanks!

 

[atoyot]

PM sent!

 

[corkybstewart]

That low resistance bothers me. With 6 taps in my kegerator I'll need 120" of hose? If that's the case I'm gonna have to back out, my kegerator is already cluttered enough with 8' hoses for each tap. But thanks for your effort.
Corky

 

[CidahMastah]

That low resistance bothers me. With 6 taps in my kegerator I'll need 120" of hose? If that's the case I'm gonna have to back out, my kegerator is already cluttered enough with 8' hoses for each tap. But thanks for your effort.
Corky

I plan on using these to up the resistance, and keep hose lengths reasonable.

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f35/cure-your-short-hose-troubles-100151/

just sayin'


I know if you have good bevlex line vs. lower grade line (basic vynil tubing) the resistance will not be as different. If you throw a couple mixer stixs in there you may not need any extra, possibly shorter.

 

[RDWHAHB]

100' Please. Will send PM.

 

[chemman14]

so no one knows approx how much we will need per line? I plan on having 4 taps and would like to order enough line for two runs

 

[JuanMoore]

so no one knows approx how much we will need per line? I plan on having 4 taps and would like to order enough line for two runs

Just like with any beverage line, the length you need will depend on a lot of factors, such as serving pressure/carb level, beer temperature, rise to faucets, and desired pour speed. The way you route the lines also has an effect, coiling the lines horizontally has a much different effect than coiling vertically where the beer travels up and then down several times. IMO unless you're serving highly carbed belgians and hefe's at warmer temps, 25'/tap should be plenty. You can always trim the lines shorter if you need to, but you can't stretch them. FWIW, I get good pours using 18' per line pushing 38F beer @ 11psi (2.48 vol).

 

[chemman14]

Just like with any beverage line, the length you need will depend on a lot of factors, such as serving pressure/carb level, beer temperature, rise to faucets, and desired pour speed. The way you route the lines also has an effect, coiling the lines horizontally has a much different effect than coiling vertically where the beer travels up and then down several times. IMO unless you're serving highly carbed belgians and hefe's at warmer temps, 25'/tap should be plenty. You can always trim the lines shorter if you need to, but you can't stretch them. FWIW, I get good pours using 18' per line pushing 38F beer @ 11psi (2.48 vol).

I was planning on coiling them on top of the keg so they would be horizontal. Is this the best?

 

[yessri]

PM sent for 150'

 

[JuanMoore]

I was planning on coiling them on top of the keg so they would be horizontal. Is this the best?

Yes.

 

[haeffnkr]

PM sent for 200 ft.

thanks Kevin

 

[GTO_Guy]

100 here please. PM sent

 

[valkyrie]

Out of curiosity, what's the timeline for ordering? Any details on pricing?

Thanks, much appreciated.

 

[SankePankey]

PM Sent

I would like 100' of bevlex 3/16" too. Thanks.

(err.. whatever it's called)

 

[Schrodinger]

Thanks for putting this together, those lines look nice.

Put me down for 100' of the 3/16" line.

PM will be sent immediately.

 

[JonBoy47]

approx $0.20/ft + $10 for shipping, comes in 1000ft rolls.

:rockin:

 

[outside92129]

4 rolls sold so far, a big rush of PM's today. Should be placing the order this friday, i'll post the list of people/quantities on thursday and the final/actual prices after the order is placed.

Does anyone know what 100' looks like? Will it fit in a USPS flat-rate medium box?
13-5/8" x 11-7/8" x 3-3/8"
11" x 8-1/2" x 5-1/2"

p.s. i'm going to be busier than i thought cutting and boxing line!

 

[CidahMastah]

p.s. i'm going to be busier than i thought cutting and boxing line!

You are a trooper for sure!

Be sure to invite a friend over and have plenty of home brew on hand.

FYI - I just tried the epoxy mixers from mcmaster in my system. They make a big difference in line resistance. I will absolutely be using them to add resistance and keep these lower resistance beer lines in check.

 

[EFaden]

4 rolls sold so far, a big rush of PM's today. Should be placing the order this friday, i'll post the list of people/quantities on thursday and the final/actual prices after the order is placed.

Does anyone know what 100' looks like? Will it fit in a USPS flat-rate medium box?
13-5/8" x 11-7/8" x 3-3/8"
11" x 8-1/2" x 5-1/2"

p.s. i'm going to be busier than i thought cutting and boxing line!

It doesn't bend like normal line. It is stiffer.

 

[rboucher]

Put me in for 100'

Thank you for organizing this!

 

[IrregularPulse]

Setting a reminder to check back on the 29th.