Got a welder, now the fun begins...

[Ohio-Ed]

A man with a plan on a mission.
Mr. Pumpkin alive and well?

Mr Pumpkin is indeed alive and well.
SWMBO is happy and therefore live is good

 

[BrewBeemer]

All is well just paint Mr.Pumpkin.

I now have a male ring neck pheasant in a box, caught it last nigh just before dark running around then found in a busy intersection laying on it's side.
I thought it got hit but found no injuries.
This morning checked for a band, none found plus it's walking, pecked the hell out of me and hisses. A local Vet doctor has a ranch full of birds he'll take it as it's wings are clipped. What a pretty bird I must add.
No this will not be a happy meal or under glass.

 

[stevehaun]

Too bad, Carl. I was going to post my recipe for pheasant poppers. They would go well with one of your industrial stouts...

 

[BrewBeemer]

Ed, check this out, let the site run thru takes a few seconds, you'll like what it can do,
I want one, wifey does not;http://www.plasmacam.com/indexfla.php
I have their catalog not the free video it's on the way.

It is considered an exotic pet, a pheasant I never knew this?
Are they considered an expensive pet?
Nobody would take it all the shelters in my area
as it isn't native or they were out of county.
Hell we have wild turkey, deer, skunk, racoon, opossum,
brown squirrels, and redtail hawk.

It sure was pretty plus it sprang to life fighting
me plus the vet hissing and pecking a healthy strong bird.
It will spend its days at a big bird ranch, I now feel
good inside doing the right thing. Animal lover here rather
shoot idiot people than animals, no just thinking this.
I still laugh as wifey she went on line typing in pheasant and
what popped up was how to prepare pheasant, oops.

Cold enough up your way? We'll get hammered by rain tomorrow,
hope the island stays afloat.
Any different tasting than dog I had in China?
Bow Wow Yum Yum! Your Dog Die Bring Mr. Kitty!

 

[BrewBeemer]

Too bad, Carl. I was going to post my recipe for pheasant poppers. They would go well with one of your industrial stouts...

Check this out for recipes;
what's not to like, grub & bier?
http://briansbelly.com/category/belly-recipes/beef/

 

[trigger]

I have no idea about pheasant as a pet, but the farm I buy quail from for training my pointer sells them for (I think) around $20. Pretty steep when the quail run $6. These aren't wing clipped birds, though, and certainly don't like people. Hence why they are such good dog training tools, act a lot like wild birds.

Back on topic, we just got my dad a Miller Diversion 180 for Christmas. It's sitting in my living room right now so he doesn't see it until the 25th. It's basically taken every single ounce of self control I have not opening the box to "make sure it's all there." I'm sure I'll have my own pictures of practice welds to throw up here soon, assuming I can pry the torch from his hands...

 

[BrewBeemer]

In the living room?
Dang bro that thing weighs 224 pounds, bet 235 pounds with the box.
Make 'em big and strong people to move that welder into the house.

My 350 Sync weighs 695 pounds, not likely to be moved into the house anytime soon.

For your dad, right you'll store it for him at your place, even check it out to be sure it runs properly. Get him a big gas bottle also? Prost.

 

[trigger]

Nah, this is the little one. It's only 50 lbs from the website, probably more in person though. 120 or 240 V. Mostly for the motorcycles, so making small parts and exhausts. I bet the whole box weighs 100 lbs as shipped, light enough I could pick it up when I vacuumed yesterday, but heavy enough I don't want to move it again. I shouldn't even be talking about it because the more I think about it the more tempted I am to go take a look.

I'm letting him worry about the gas an supplies, seeing as how I'm back in school. I figure if I keep his fridge full of the lagers he likes we'll be even...

 

[Ohio-Ed]

BB -

Good job taking care of the bird. I'm not convinced most folks would do the same. My house is full of my wife's rescues.

That PlasmaCam is COOL! What's the price range?

I'm picking up the steel for my welding table this afternoon.
We have about 6" of snow on the ground but it has warmed up to mid 20's (4f Wednesday morning).


Trigger - Damn nice Christmas gift for your dad! Likw BrewBeemer said, make sure he checks around for gas bottles / suppliers. In my area, prices & options are all over the place. Also beware of buying a used bottle from an individual. Make sure you can get it filled beforehand. Suppliers seem to want to sell you a small bottle that will keep you coming to them for refills on a regular basis.

Ed

 

[BrewBeemer]

trigger,
my bad I was thinking a X-former vs a inverter machine, big weight difference.
Here's something to read up on about the machine, the owners manual;

http://www.millerwelds.com/om/o246522c_mil.pdf

Prost.

 

[Ohio-Ed]

Just got home with the material to build my welding table.

Do you have any idea how heavy a 204 pound steel plate is ?

 

[Yuri_Rage]

Just a tad over 203 lbs?

Hate to say it, but...told you so!

 

[Ohio-Ed]

Just a tad over 203 lbs?

Hate to say it, but...told you so!

Yuri, I don't mean to argue, but you're wrong.
That's how much it weighs... it's actually heavy as CRAP!!
Laying flat in the bottom of my truck bed full of ice/snow I couldn't get my fingers under it. Me sliding around, I had to pry it get moved away from the cab end of the bed just to get it started

Your earlier post, is the way I knew what I was getting into, Thanks!

 

[Yuri_Rage]

When I brought home the 4x8 sheet of 3/8" plate for my workbench, I just threw the truck in reverse and slammed the brakes with the tailgate open. I used an engine hoist to help put blocks under the corners in preparation for cutting.

 

[trigger]

trigger,
my bad I was thinking a X-former vs a inverter machine, big weight difference.
Here's something to read up on about the machine, the owners manual;

http://www.millerwelds.com/om/o246522c_mil.pdf

Prost.

Thanks for the info! I'm sure I'll be all over this thread in a few weeks with lots of questions.

I'll definitely have him check around. He's been looking/wanting a TIG for a long time, just wouldn't get it for himself.

 

[GreenMonti]

Just got home with the material to build my welding table.

Do you have any idea how heavy a 204 pound steel plate is ?

SWEET!! Now the fun begins.


Many hours to spend at the table, you have. Young Padawan.

I got you a couple pieces for your torch. A new insulator, a # 12 cup, and a 1/16" and a 1/32" gas lens W/collets. I was unable to get some filler but, you should have no problem using SS filler for now. I'll get it in the mail to you as soon as I can.

Oh yea, A "204 pound steel plate" weighs a pound, right?

 

[BrewBeemer]

Sounds like a tool you both will learn on and enjoy, a great investment.
On the bottle i'm a strong believer in the getting the largest owner
owned bottle you can handle like a 250 cu/ft.
It will be way cheaper to refill plus less often as well
no monthly lease fees. Should it sit 5 months no lease fees.
Do your homework as prices are all over the board with bottles
plus refills, shop around.
www.cyberwelds.com as example has bottles plus welders at rock bottom prices. The no sales tax is another plus.

Ed, I would rather of do battle with that steel plate than the "ex wife, she weighted 150% than it.
Now I can't even pick up a pair of shoes not alone touch the ground.

 

[BrewBeemer]

SWEET!! Now the fun begin

I got you a couple pieces for your torch. A new insulator, a # 12 cup, and a 1/16" and a 1/32" gas lens W/collets. I was unable to get some filler but, you should have no problem using SS filler for now. I'll get it in the mail to you as soon as I can.

Now that's a super cool offer, hats off to GreenMonti.

All I get are "had friends" that bang into my torch breaking a cup
or using my 1/16" tungsten as a scratch awl breaking it.
Again, cool beans Monti.

 

[Ohio-Ed]

SWEET!! Now the fun begins.


Many hours to spend at the table, you have. Young Padawan.

I got you a couple pieces for your torch. A new insulator, a # 12 cup, and a 1/16" and a 1/32" gas lens W/collets. I was unable to get some filler but, you should have no problem using SS filler for now. I'll get it in the mail to you as soon as I can.

Oh yea, A "204 pound steel plate" weighs a pound, right?

GreenMonti,

Thank you! That is incredibly generous.
I'm trying to spend at least a few minutes welding each day. I saw a video demonstrating the difference in using a gas lens, and the advantage looks very obvious.

I'm in the shed working on the table now.

Thanks,
Ed

 

[BrewBeemer]

GreenMonti,

Thank you! That is incredibly generous. Thanks, Ed

He always liked you better than me.

 

[Yuri_Rage]

Tungsten electrodes make great scratch awls in a pinch. You just have to remember to either set them aside or regrind them immediately after use.

 

[rosier9]

may I suggest friends for the next 204lb adventure...? really though, a couple homebrews later and all is well...

 

[Ohio-Ed]

may I suggest friends for the next 204lb adventure...? really though, a couple homebrews later and all is well...

Thanks rosier... Ya know, 204 pounds is really not that heavy. I guess what surprised me was how it was kind of "stuck" to the truck bed and I really had no way to get a hold on it. I managed to get a couple tie down hooks under it and then I could pull it fairly easy.

But now it's in the shop... on a bench just waiting on the frame.

BTW... My friends would have probably just laughed at me sliding around in the back of the truck.

 

[BrewBeemer]

BTW... My friends would have probably just laughed at me sliding around in the back of the truck.

Would you be face down or face up after you fall? I laugh at both.

 

[BrewBeemer]

BTW... My friends would have probably just laughed at me sliding around in the back of the truck.

Remember use a grinder of better yet a flap wheel and clean to bright steel at the weld locations. Tig will make a mess with crater holes vs using stick that is a pig it welds thru rust and crap if you must. Inclusions, what the hell are they?

 

[Ohio-Ed]

Would that be you face down or face up?
Remember use a grinder of better yet a flap wheel and clean to bright steel at the weld locations. Tig will pop vs stick a pig welds thru rust if you must.

Yea, I'll clean up the weld locations.

Have you ever used or heard of a Freud Diablo Steel Demon blade?
Its a carbide tipped circular saw blade. I saw a video on the miller welds site of a guy using one to cut a steel plate. I bought one (not cheap) and just tried it on the square tubing. I expected it to kick and spit teeth all over the shop but WOW was I surprised. It cut the tubing like I was cutting a wood 2x2. And it is clean as a whistle. They claim it lasts as long as 40 abrasive disks. I'll be interested to see how it holds up.

Ed

 

[BrewBeemer]

I've heard of them but watch out with the rpm's of your saw vs the blade rpm rating. We used them in the trade with steel conduit, a wax stick incresed blade life. Metal circular saw blades in the 7 1/4" diameter run from 4-7K rpm range, higher the speed more heat and wear. The 14" from 15 to 1,800 rpms. Surface tip cutting speed is the set rpm factor not rpm's.
Most metal saws like Milwaukee, Makita turn at 15 to 1,800 rpm's in the 14" class. Even when Milwaukee, they went Chinese but I still like their 14" steel circular saw as it has a wide stance vs others on the pivot hence less slop and error as it gets loose with wear over time. Dang things are not cheap.
http://www.google.com/products/cata...ult&ct=result&resnum=2&sqi=2&ved=0CDIQ8wIwAQ#
http://www.milwaukeetool.com/access...-saw-blades/metal-cutting-circular-saw-blades

I wish for a Dake Cold Saw but then $2,300 is hard to swallow after the wifey chokes me to 1/4" of death.

 

[pickles]

Ed,

i've used those blades alot and they work great, but don't stay sharp very long. They are also pretty hard on your saw. It'll run you $0.50 - $1.00 per tooth to have it sharpened. Make sure the sharpener is comfortable sharpening super hard carbide. If they sharpen it like standard carbide saw blades they'll lessen the life of the blade. I've had a Forrest Woodworker blade ruined that way! BTW, they are meant to used on a saw running at 1800 RPM, typically circular saw runs at 5200 RPM.

 

[Ohio-Ed]

Ed,

i've used those blades alot and they work great, but don't stay sharp very long. They are also pretty hard on your saw. It'll run you $0.50 - $1.00 per tooth to have it sharpened. Make sure the sharpener is comfortable sharpening super hard carbide. If they sharpen it like standard carbide saw blades they'll lessen the life of the blade. I've had a Forrest Woodworker blade ruined that way! BTW, they are meant to used on a saw running at 1800 RPM, typically circular saw runs at 5200 RPM.

Pickles,

The blade I have is marked 5800 RPM Max? I will certainly feed very slowly and will use a straight edge for most cuts to avoid binding.

Yea, I thought it would be hard on a saw. I have a Dewalt with a sticky blade guard that I have been planning to replace, this is the perfect excuse

I'd be pretty happy if this blade holds up through this project and maybe a couple more small ones. I'm hoping it will be no more expensive than the cost of abrasive blades in the long run.

Ed

 

[BrewBeemer]

I hate abrasive saw cutting blade use.
I have a Mikita 14" abrasive saw, cost me $38 for a replacement gear case housing as it was dropped and broken.
Blades free from my muffler shop friends business still I hate the damn thing.
I have GreenLee horizontal bandsaw given to me he retired and moved into a motorhome plus a 53" blade Miller Falls hand bandsaw, all 46# of it a tank.
The Dake Cold Saw if someone can come out with a DIY version like the Miller
Welds projects that would be great. Can't justify $2,300 plus it's way over budget. To square off stock on the Bridgeport is way over the top in time and labor.

My Delta 10" compound miter saw with a aluminum non ferrous blade makes milled rainbow cuts, secret is using a wax lube stick every cut.
I bet this would help with cutting steel plus make the blade last longer.
Those slivers are nasty be careful especially when they dig into your clothes
and end up in the washing machine. Others in the house will have rusty slivers in there clothes, NOT GOOD trust me been there. End of novel sorry.
Off to PT torture.