Gong camping!

[ArkotRamathorn]

I appologize for my prior behavior.

I've also on the other hand had several park rangers when I go in to book my camp site "Do you have any glass bottles?" And while reading the park/camp ground rules bullet points stating no glass allowed.

I have a particularly strong opinion on this subject because the little children running around in a college town leaving their detritus wherever they please. Now our few beaches and parks need constant clean up from broken glass and beer cans. I know no one here is a "child" (when I was in college, I was still a child), it's just my experience its easier and safer for everyone and the enviroment to leave the glass at home.

 

[brewprint]

Wow. I didn't realize the bottle police would would become so involved. I forgot that we shouldn't take campers with glass windows either. I know someone who went to Rocky Mountain National Park and her window broke out of her pull behind because she made a bad turn and hit a tree.

By your over cautious mentalities we shouldn't have glass windows in campers either!

So, are we responsible adults here or college kids?

Pour a beer in a cup (glass or plastic) and put your bottle away safely for use again.

You guys sound like women...or maybe some posters are.

 

[uatuba]

Why has no one addressed the initial concern of bottle bombs? The only way you'll get those is if you bottled too early, you have an infection, or you added too much priming sugar. Higher temperatures will cause the eventuality of these problems to occur earlier, but it won't cause bottle bombs directly (unless we're talking unnaturally high temperatures, but that's not the gist of this thread).


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[kenoglass]

Why has no one addressed the initial concern of bottle bombs? The only way you'll get those is if you bottled too early, you have an infection, or you added too much priming sugar. Higher temperatures will cause the eventuality of these problems to occur earlier, but it won't cause bottle bombs directly (unless we're talking unnaturally high temperatures, but that's not the gist of this thread).


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Thanks, thats all I was wondering, I know I didnt over carbonate, I know I didnt bottle too early as well. The only concern was a few days with temps in the mid eighties....so I think we should be golden on our Glamping trip at the resort type place!!

 

[ArkotRamathorn]

Wow. I didn't realize the bottle police would would become so involved. I forgot that we shouldn't take campers with glass windows either. I know someone who went to Rocky Mountain National Park and her window broke out of her pull behind because she made a bad turn and hit a tree.

By your over cautious mentalities we shouldn't have glass windows in campers either!

So, are we responsible adults here or college kids?

Pour a beer in a cup (glass or plastic) and put your bottle away safely for use again.

You guys sound like women...or maybe some posters are.

Tell me why its unreasonable to put your beer in brown plastic PET bottles instead? You can force carbonate from a keg into one of these, or you can bottle condition inside of a plastic bottle. I mean, you can help prevent litter, you can improve future campers enjoyment of the site, and the bottles are lighter and stronger allowing you to pack and carry more.

It's not about male or female or child or adults. I don't doubt that you'd be able to bring glass bottles and not break them. But, why take the chance? Serious question, why take a chance of breaking bottles at a camp site potentially hurting wild life and future campers?

I used to be 100% the same opinion, I can bring glass and I know I won't break them. Then I started seeing the extreme amount of trash that gets left at camp sites, and trust me the first time a piece of your camping equipment gets sliced up, or you get a piece of glass jammed in your shoe/foot at a camp site, your opinion will switch *immediately*.

 

[boydster]

By your over cautious mentalities we shouldn't have glass windows in campers either!

Necessary risk vs unnecessary risk. I assume you can see having glass windows in a motor vehicle is a necessary risk, in terms of getting safely from your home to a campground with all of your gear. Having beer in glass bottles, when there are plenty of other beer containment options, is an unnecessary risk. How big of a risk? Depends on circumstances. But an unnecessary risk is still unnecessary, regardless.

So, are we responsible adults here or college kids?
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You guys sound like women...or maybe some posters are.

So, by your logic, responsible adults are adults who are not college students and/or women? I don't see how to reconcile this world view with the nuanced experience of living in the real world, where sometimes even middle aged adult male college graduates break beer bottles at campgrounds.

 

[HungusBrews]

I like to use the "foil" growlers when I go backpacking. You can see them here http://www.beerpouch.com/

Or the vacuum insulated growlers that actually keep the beer cold for a day or so. They are just heavy to carry.

No glass in the woods or the on the rivers! Put your whiskey in a kleen kanteen.

 

[brewprint]

Necessary risk vs unnecessary risk. I assume you can see having glass windows in a motor vehicle is a necessary risk, in terms of getting safely from your home to a campground with all of your gear. Having beer in glass bottles, when there are plenty of other beer containment options, is an unnecessary risk. How big of a risk? Depends on circumstances. But an unnecessary risk is still unnecessary, regardless.



So, by your logic, responsible adults are adults who are not college students and/or women? I don't see how to reconcile this world view with the nuanced experience of living in the real world, where sometimes even middle aged adult male college graduates break beer bottles at campgrounds.

It's about overkill.

I'm not saying that it's 'not' a good idea to use PET bottles, but if you don't so what?

An unnecessary risk(by overkill logic) would be to keep glass and not to install plexi glass windows in a camper. Overkill

 

[Orthobrewsky]

I was trying to figure out what "gong camping" was... figured it was worth reading about

Ice it.

I thought he must have meant either "bong camping" or (less interestingly) "going camping."

 

[Waterlogd2005]

In the same respect no one should use bottles at home either. You can drop it on the floor where it could break and leave glass shards for someone in your house to cut themselves on. Unless you want to spend hours collecting every microscopic piece so no one comes in contact with it in your home environment. Never use bottles on your deck either. If one gets broken the glass could get between the boards and cut the next unsuspecting shoeless person who walks on the deck.

Come on people if the Original poster is able to care for and not break glass bottles at home... Why is the OP not able to care for and use bottles when camping? The case some of you are making no one should ever use glass bottles outside. Therefore we should ban all glass bottles.

 

[boydster]

In my house, it is much easier to locate and clean up the pieces than trying to do the same outside. I've had stitches in my heel from stepping on a piece of glass outdoors.

Anyway, I don't think bottle bombs should be an issue, OP.

 

[Gareth68]

For years I pretty blatantly disregarded the no glass bottles rules, based on a basic inability to purchase decent beer in cans.

My last music festival, I was able to incorporate almost my entire beer load in cans due to the plethora of choices now available.

That said, I always use heavy duty construction bags to bag my trash and make sure to leave my camp site the way I found it.

As for the guy who doesn't drink when camping.....

 

[Clarke]

Isn't it a shame that you have the freedom to take glass to a public site but I don't have the freedom to take off my shoes without worrying I may step on broken glass, even though public rules state no glass?

Imagine your 3 year old daughter innocently taking off her shoes and stepping on glass, would you be more upset you can't take glass or that your baby just got injured due to one individuals carelessness?

It only takes one person to ruin the fun for all.

 

[brewprint]

And it's also a shame that a parent wouldn't discipline their child to keep their shoes on. Or even better an adult that 'needs' to take their shoes off and walk around at a campsite.

Not sure what campsites that you all are camping at that have a no glass rule. I know the trout club I belong to has a no glass rule but not where I camp.

Unreal.

 

[Clarke]

And it's also a shame that a parent wouldn't discipline their child to keep their shoes on. Or even better an adult that 'needs' to take their shoes off and walk around at a campsite.

Not sure what campsites that you all are camping at that have a no glass rule. I know the trout club I belong to has a no glass rule but not where I camp.

Unreal.

I guess you don't go to the lake, river or beach much. The fact you have to argue with my point tells me what kind of person you are and I agree, unreal...

 

[brewprint]

I guess you don't go to the lake, river or beach much. The fact you have to argue with my point tells me what kind of person you are and I agree, unreal...

I camp on all except the beach. That is the ONE place where your point is valid.

 

[ArkotRamathorn]

And it's also a shame that a parent wouldn't discipline their child to keep their shoes on. Or even better an adult that 'needs' to take their shoes off and walk around at a campsite.

Not sure what campsites that you all are camping at that have a no glass rule. I know the trout club I belong to has a no glass rule but not where I camp.

Unreal.

I never take my shoes off at any camp sites, except when I crawl into my tent. I am not arguing that I should be able to take off my shoes at a camp site. Glass can still very easily puncture shoes. Nevermind if you are laying out your gear and it snags a piece of glass, wrecking your equipment.

As well should a parent discipline their child for tripping and falling over as children often do? That child trips and gets a chunk of glass imbeded in their knee.

Because your trout club has the rule, I assume you don't bring glass with you for the club gatherings while you are trout fishing correct? Seriously answer this question, why do they have a rule for no glass? Is it because broken glass or glass bottles in the enviroment can seriously hurt the wildlife, preservation of the trout populations for the enjoyment of fisherman is obviously high on their list of priorities. If you went trout fishing and there were a couple fisherman there with bunch of glass bottles, wouldn't you be a little bit peeved to see that "Man, what if they break a bottle or leave all their trash behind ruining this great fishing spot"?

Why do you think this shouldn't be extended to camp grounds? Because its not in the rules that means its ok to have glass?

Edit: All camp grounds may not specifically state "No Glass Bottles". But, ALLLLLLLL CAMPGROUNDS ALLLLL LIST "Leave No Trace". Aka pick up everything that you brought with you and either recycle, or place is a garbage receptacle. So, I am perfectly willing to accept you saying "I've never and will never break a bottle". But if you do, its 100% on you to make sure you get 100% of the little bits of glass, which is hard when you break a glass inside your house, thats well lit, on linoleum or tile floors, in a controlled space, nevermind a dark, large space, with dirt/grass ground.

 

[Waterlogd2005]

What kind of campground to you camp in that the sun never comes up? The sun is much brighter than any lightbulb in a house. What's this the light bulb can be put in a spotlight and taken outside or a mega candle power battery powered spotlight and taken camping damn that's a new invention.

BAN ALL GLASS!!! I am going to contact my representatives in congress.


Crap these light bulbs are made of glass. Glass hurts the environment. Ban lightbulbs they break. Don't take them camping. Its too big of a risk. Leave your car at home too it has glass windows that can break. Also SMOKEY says don't start any forrest fires. Don't take any knives they are sharp and could cut you or someone else. Ban those too!

OP if your carbontation sugars are at the proper level for carbonation according to your recipe your brew should be fine. My personal experience is not to warm up brew after it has been chilled, but if it is still warm it should be fine. Don't let your buddies fall into your boxes of brew waiting to be drank.

 

[kenoglass]

So went camping...brought the homebrew I wanted and ya know what.........




No broken bottles and all the brew was consumed. Quicker then expected too.

 

[Waterlogd2005]

I am glad everything worked well for you. It seemed everyone really enjoyed your brew. That's great!

 

[SupervisingChildren]

Or Hell, take a keg!

That I can get behind.

Yes. Or 3 of them like I did last week.

I thought he must have meant either "bong camping" or (less interestingly) "going camping."

Only if it's a plastic one

 

[kenoglass]

Yes. Or 3 of them like I did last week.






Only if it's a plastic one

Once I brew a few more I hope to do this. So far I brewed 2 batches and have not yet acquired the kegging portion yet!

 

[SupervisingChildren]

Got the kegs first, then bought the jockey box and co2, and now finally building a kegerator. I brewed probably 15 batches before I started making the kegging purchases.
Gotta start buying all grain equipment next.

 

[cheezydemon3]

Kegs are even more prohibitive than glass for hiking, but if car camping, kegs are the only way to go!

Use solo cups, who cares if it gets stirred up a little.

 

[andy6026]

I can't believe there are such long posts on this.

Who drinks their homebrew directly out of the bottles anyways?

Take the bottles, pour them into your sippy-cups and drink them.