Is this the Same thing with the thicker Pyrex carboys?
I cannot believe how many people fell for this.
My guess would be that he put a room temperature carboy onto a very cold surface and thermally shocked the glass. Don't do that!
She recovered just fine, with only a scar where they reattached it. The bill was thousands of dollars, mostly covered by insurance.
That really scared me! I think what happens is we bump the carboys many times incidentally, and then when they get bumped again just so they can break like that.
I use buckets and plastic fermenters for primary now for all wines, and all beers. I use glass carboys when I have to for wines but I'm very cautious and don't move them around except on racking day.
I only have one serious comment on the subject, which is also the point of the thread: if you use glass carboys, use extreme caution! I've been using the same glass for 14 years (hundreds of brews through them) with no problems. I use extreme caution. it's glass.
Careful standing on that glass soap box.
I think it's a bit irresposible to post something like that to which you refer. People that might not know any better read this stuff too.
Remove air lock. Place piece of duct tape over air lock on bung. Move better bottle around. Remove duct tape and replace air lock. Suck back eliminated.
The point of this is that with plastic you DO NOT need to use EXTREME caution.
Glass carboy users who do have accidents add to other stuff to make my insurance more expensive!
we could argue on the point until we both look like Andorian:rockin:
:smack:
I've been using glass carboys from the start - going on 4 years, I always carry them full with a carboy handle. Sorry about all you having issues but no problems here and I am not terribly interested in any other fermenters. Oh I also smoke, run long distances putting too much stress on my heart according to the NY times, and have unprotected sex ( with my wife so maybe that doesn't count as a health risk?)
Steve da sleeve
Ok, so I'm sitting back reading the, "Broken Carboy" thread and it really gives me a headache! Here's some simple advice. The most common thing I read was "I use a carboy handle and I can see the stress fractures."
Ok, fact #1: Carboy handles ARE NOT meant to move FULL carboys. They are for toting around empty carboys. If you want to move a FULL carboy without breaking the neck off, use a brew hauler. They are $12.99 at you LHBS.
Fact#2: Let your wort chill all the way before racking. It's the same as plastic, so that shouldn't be an issue.
Fact#3: Be aware that it IS glass. When moving it, be cautious. People say "I use plastic/better bottles because glass breaks too easily." Do you also drink your beer out of a plastic dippy cup because it doesn't break? No, you're just cautious because its glass.
For the record I'm NOT trying to pick on anyone. I'm NOT saying glass is better than plastic, I'm just saying the logic behind some people's arguments is a little off. Please feel free to voice your opinion here!!
Thanks for reading!!
Cheers!!
I've been using glass carboys from the start - going on 4 years, I always carry them full with a carboy handle. Sorry about all you having issues but no problems here and I am not terribly interested in any other fermenters. Oh I also smoke, run long distances putting too much stress on my heart according to the NY times, and have unprotected sex ( with my wife so maybe that doesn't count as a health risk?)
Steve da sleeve
we could argue on the point until we both look like Andorians, but I'll stick with my glass & stainless because that's what I prefer. and I'll expect anyone else will do the same with their vessels.
didn't we have this conversation on NB? I like my beer from a glass bottle, not a plastic one. glass doesn't scratch like plastic. I just prefer it. are we Andorian yet?Out of curiosity, what is it about glass that you prefer over plastic?
logan3825 said:People with glass carboys shouldn't throw rocks.
ANYONE who couldn't pick up on the sarcasm in that post is dense.
Denny said:You just haven't been brewing long enough. You WILL break one...or more.
didn't we have this conversation on NB? I like my beer from a glass bottle, not a plastic one. glass doesn't scratch like plastic. I just prefer it. are we Andorian yet?
Just use common sense and care and there will not be an issue.
Yeah, maybe we did...I'm old and getting senile! I was hoping you'd have GOOD reasons!
Buckets just don't keep the CO2 barrier as well - because when you lift off the lid to peak inside to see what it's doing, you let oxygen in. Of course, the CO2 is heavier and should keep it at bay - but still, I hate that thought. The more times you lift the lid, the more you stir things up in there. I like to check out the progress, so if I used buckets I would be lifting the lid up several times during the process. As fermentation slows down and CO2 production slows/stops, that air I let in won't get pushed out.
Since I like to look at my beer as it's fermenting, glass carboys are the by far the best possible vessels for me. The airlock remains sealed the entire time, and I don't disturb anything during the fermentation. The only time the airlock comes off is when I'm transferring into a keg which has been carefully purged with CO2 beforehand. Glass is also super easy to clean.
Plastic is also super easy to clean, and easier to get into to do the cleaning. It's not like I didn't use carboys for years, so I'm not making my decisions in a vacuum. How many of you glass users have tried buckets to compare?
In my experience, your argument about opening the lid makes absolutely no difference. As I said. I did a LOT of batches in glass before switching to buckets. I made my decision based on experimentation and experience.
Plastic is also super easy to clean, and easier to get into to do the cleaning. It's not like I didn't use carboys for years, so I'm not making my decisions in a vacuum. How many of you glass users have tried buckets to compare?
In my experience, your argument about opening the lid makes absolutely no difference. As I said. I did a LOT of batches in glass before switching to buckets. I made my decision based on experimentation and experience.
I've been a lot of batches (over 300) but not as many as Denny, as he's much older than I am. :cross:
I started with ale pails way back when, went to carboys for a while, and went back to buckets.
One thing with carboys to remember is that they must be covered to avoid light (especially sunlight) so I have towels around my carboys that are full of wine. I don't need to see the fermentation (what difference could it possibly make?) and I don't need to open and reclose constantly (although I could).
I like the fact that if a bucket cracks or breaks (and it never has) that I might lose some beer but not a thumb like my friend did.
I weigh 135 pounds, and I don't want to lift things heavier than they need to be. I especially don't want to lift heavy glass things if I can avoid it!
maybe I'm just a dumb brewer, but no amount of horror stories will change my mind on glass. and why should I switch now if what I have is working great? should I just toss my 4 glass carboys & buy buckets? will my beer come out any better? I'm done on the rant & subject. thank you for your time & happy fermenting in your vessel of choice!
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