Gas Burners with Love TS and Pilot Light Demo

[ddknight]

Excellent! I'll put the orifice at the burner and keep the rest the same and we'll be good to go. I had used rectoseal 5 for the main plumbing lines, should I use permatex #2 for everything instead? Thanks again for the instruction and advice!

 

[kladue]

Your good with the rectorseal #5, no need to change anything.

 

[ddknight]

Thanks. Pictures soon to follow!

 

[ddknight]

Kladue,
I got all the parts mentioned above and the problem is that the low pressure orifice is too large in diameter to fit into those type of burners. I went back and looked at the info on the baso safety valves and they can handle up to 25psi. Would the high power burners work without the low pressure orifice in place if the psi regulator wasn't turned up past say 20? Or would it work with the low pressure regulator in place in the system as you described but without the low pressure orifice? Just thought I'd check all the options before breaking down and buying expensive new low pressure burners. Thanks for any info/input.

 

[Anthony_Lopez]

I'm not really sure why people keep talking about the BASO H15 valves. These valves are not rated for high pressure applications like the H19 series. Another thing I'm curious about is why no one is using combination valves that have both a pilot safety valve, pressure regulator, and main gas line solenoid all in one... The G92 series from BASO are quite nice if you can stand low pressure.

 

[ddknight]

I actually have the baso H19 which is their high pressure version of the safety valve. It is listed at working properly with psi up to 25. I think with this safety valve I can connect everything together without converting to a low pressure system that was discussed earlier. My regulator has a psi setting of 0-20 so that should be fine with this safety valve.

I think the H15 was discussed earlier and used by some who have completely low pressure systems.

 

[Anthony_Lopez]

I'm familiar with most of the BASO valves now. One thing I'm not sure of is why people are choosing safety valves and not using safety switches... The switches are MUCH cheaper and do the same thing.

 

[korndog]

I'm familiar with most of the BASO valves now. One thing I'm not sure of is why people are choosing safety valves and not using safety switches... The switches are MUCH cheaper and do the same thing.

Actually, I think you had it right with the Dual valves. You can get standing pilot dual's for peanuts. Unlike many of the solenoids people are using, they are MADE for gas burners. I have Honeywell valves on my system.

KD

 

[Anthony_Lopez]

Actually, I think you had it right with the Dual valves. You can get standing pilot dual's for peanuts. Unlike many of the solenoids people are using, they are MADE for gas burners. I have Honeywell valves on my system.

KD

Which honeywell valves did you get? The baso G92 valves are really pricey...

As for the switch, i think a lot of people should really consider them if they are already running high pressure and can't find or afford H19 valves. Direct ignition is just as expensive as a safety valve system on high pressure.

 

[korndog]

Which honeywell valves did you get? The baso G92 valves are really pricey...

As for the switch, i think a lot of people should really consider them if they are already running high pressure and can't find or afford H19 valves. Direct ignition is just as expensive as a safety valve system on high pressure.

Mine are combination valves for spark ignition that I got for free scrapped from furnaces. Here is a link to my gas system.

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f11/spark-ignition-brutus-67922/

 

[user 40839]

Resurrecting an old thread as I do more and more research on knocking together a Brutus.

Using high pressure propane (0-30 psi regulator, with banjo burners) it looks like the BASO H19 and STC solenoid would be the ideal way to go. However, those H19s that folks were able to find on the cheap, are non existant, and other than Ronrock's classified posting here, I haven't seen any for under $200 a pop.

With that in mind... would the gurus on here take a peek at this one and let me know if it'd work?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190364179754

EDIT: Crap, found the manual. It's a White Rogers 764-702, which is great if you've got low pressure propane, but not if you're rockin' the high pressure like me.

 

[kladue]

You need the Baso H19 valve for high pressure applications, if new it is almost cheaper to go electric ignition route.

 

[user 40839]

You need the Baso H19 valve for high pressure applications, if new it is almost cheaper to go electric ignition route.

Yeah, I've searched high and low, and can't find another high pressure pilot that's comparable. Looks like I'll have to go the Lonnie route and just use an unsafe version, and keep it out of the wind!

 

[lanvp]

Yeah, I've searched high and low, and can't find another high pressure pilot that's comparable. Looks like I'll have to go the Lonnie route and just use an unsafe version, and keep it out of the wind!

You may want to check e-bay. I just bought a Baso H19RA-2C. They are asking $106 but you can get it for much less

Here is the link,

http://cgi.ebay.com/BASO-H19RA-2C-G...emQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2eaaa2535a

I'm also including the link to the valve technical bulletin.

http://www.baso.com/lib/subdomain/baso/content/images/043514666399cf09e68caffd94c20eee/h19%20high%20pressure%20safety%20pilot%20valve%20product%20bulletin.pdf

I am not sure if it requires a low pressure regulator for the pilot burner (for me it's a no factor because I have a spare).

One last detail, make sure you use the "make a better offer" option. Remember only s#$%$#& pay sticker price!!!

Cheers!

 

[RonRock]

FYI, I recently bought 3 pilot burners from that Ebay seller. Very good price and helpful people. I had to call them to make sure they added the LP orifice. They were actually decent to talk to and very helpful. Just thought they deserved a little plug.

 

[korndog]

At those prices, I would go electric ignition. You can put together each burner for under 100 bucks. Much cheaper if you can get scrapped valves and igniters. I'm getting ready to build my second Brutus and will repeat this component. Considering high pressure as opposed to low this time.

 

[user 40839]

Problem is that I've already got the STC valves in hand. Granted, I could do the electric ignition thing, and pop the valves up for sale, but would rather go with what I already have (and really don't want to fart about with adding a 24v transformer, etc.)

I saw those valves on ebay, lan - but was questioning whether to go for them, since they don't have the flow interrupter (which means when lighting the pilot, it supplies gas to the burner as well, although if there's a closed solenoid above it, that shouldn't matter, right?)