Game of Thrones

[Talgrath]

Podrick is hard for Brienne.

It's only HALF incest with Jon anyway.

Which makes me wonder... If Bran can "warg" into Hodor's body, then can't Jon warg into another person as well? And if so, could he warg into a chick's body? That could make things freaky!

I'm wondering what's going to happen at Kings Landing between the Sparrows and the Loyal troops.

And where are all these armies coming from? Seems like everyone is attacking everyone, then they get attacked, and then they attack someone else, and so on. But they keep coming up with more soldiers!!

Admittedly, I personally think what will happen is Sansa will realize that Tyrion was actually a really good guy and her true "knight in shining armor", but he'll die protecting her or other people so it will be that tragedy porn Martin likes to inflict on fans so much. Either way, I doubt Sansa and Jon are going to wind up boning. I'd say that biggest problem with your idea is that warging into someone means your body goes limp so...not as freaky as one might think.

As for where the armies come from, Martin is pretty vague on numbers most of the time, but I think he's more or less following the old medieval style of things. Basically the biggest obstacle to getting an army together in medieval times was to pay for everything, you could train up a decently competent fighting force from the peasants in a few weeks or months, but they demanded pay of course.

 

[Homercidal]

Admittedly, I personally think what will happen is Sansa will realize that Tyrion was actually a really good guy and her true "knight in shining armor", but he'll die protecting her or other people so it will be that tragedy porn Martin likes to inflict on fans so much. Either way, I doubt Sansa and Jon are going to wind up boning. I'd say that biggest problem with your idea is that warging into someone means your body goes limp so...not as freaky as one might think.

As for where the armies come from, Martin is pretty vague on numbers most of the time, but I think he's more or less following the old medieval style of things. Basically the biggest obstacle to getting an army together in medieval times was to pay for everything, you could train up a decently competent fighting force from the peasants in a few weeks or months, but they demanded pay of course.

This assumes that Jon would be the one involved in the act. If he were a "spectator" on the sidelines, say in another room or whatever, then he could be all Brainstorm using his power.

 

[robdogj]

He's definitely of the Stark bloodline, even if the theory that it was Rhaegar and Lyanna is true, Lyanna was a Stark, that would make Sansa and Jon cousins instead of half siblings, which is slightly less icky but still definitely incest.

yeah I spaced that I guess it's cousins & not siblings

 

[FloppyKnockers]

 

[HoppyDaze]

obody has mentioned yet how badass dany is.. she does seem to come through when her back is against the wall, nice this time it was w/o the help of her dragons.. i can only hope that she cleans up the mess in slaver's bay quickly so she can be off westward by the end of the season!

plus nice rack

 

[GrogNerd]

plus nice rack

CGI

Like Cersei's walkofshame last season

 

[Talgrath]

CGI

Like Cersei's walkofshame last season

The walk of shame was not quite what you'd call "CGI", technically, and they didn't use the same technique for the Walk of Shame, they used a body double (similar to the movie Nymphomaniac) in which they had someone that looked to be of a similar build to her do the actual nudity while her head was edited onto the body. This was done for two reasons: first she was pregnant at the time and showing slightly (and would have been showing more by the time they got back to the studios to film the nudity that was edited in), while Cersei was not. Second, the area they film in would not let them do a nude scene in the "public" space, so they had to have her walk through clothed. Technically this isn't CGI, while Dany's scene was; CGI stands for computer generated image and the scene in the last episode was an actual CGI not a body swap. Yes, I'm being overly technical, sorry, but I'm a big SFX nerd.

 

[HoppyDaze]

let's not get too caught up with the semantics, boys. Those ****s are nice.

 

[ArkotRamathorn]

According to Emilia Clarke she didn't use a body double for that scene. They filmed the nudity at a separate indoor location, then cut her into the scene with th burning building behind her. So some film trickery but no body doubles.

 

[FloppyKnockers]

If I had a nickel for every time I was asked to be a body double....

















...I'd have to borrow money for a piece of gum.

 

[Talgrath]

According to Emilia Clarke she didn't use a body double for that scene. They filmed the nudity at a separate indoor location, then cut her into the scene with th burning building behind her. So some film trickery but no body doubles.

Wow really? That's surprising because it looked CGI to me, though then again I was on vacation so I wound up watching on a much smaller TV. I'll have to uh...rewatch it several times on my big screen to verify, for research!

 

[GrogNerd]

Was watching with the BigHair, so I couldn't back it up, repeat in slomo a dozen times

 

[Homercidal]

I think you guys are missing the importance of that scene where she solidifies her position of power once again and defeats all of her rivals in one fel swoop. Once again she is in position of power among the Dothraki, and this time it seems she has the attention of the entire culture, not just one tribe.

Also interesting to note is that Emilia is the only actress on the show who has a no-nude clause in her contract. So for her to appear this way was obviously of her own choice. So cheers to her!

 

[GrogNerd]

I did not miss the importance of the scene to the plot, it's just not as important as teh ****ehs

It's also a tactical error to kill all your experienced generals as you are building your army. However, Dany is one of the few leaders left in the entire saga with a long-term view, so it might have served a greater strategic purpose, other than consolidating power over the Dothraki

Actually, Dany has a rather short view, but longer than most others. Varys & Tyrion have better grasps of the big picture

she now has cavalry to go with her infantry and air support. all she needs now is a navy, artillery and some armor

 

[Homercidal]

I did not miss the importance of the scene to the plot, it's just not as important as teh ****ehs

It's also a tactical error to kill all your experienced generals as you are building your army. However, Dany is one of the few leaders left in the entire saga with a long-term view, so it might have served a greater strategic purpose, other than consolidating power over the Dothraki

Actually, Dany has a rather short view, but longer than most others. Viserys & Tyrion have better grasps of the big picture

she now has cavalry to go with her infantry and air support. all she needs now is a navy, artillery and some armor

I don't think it's a tactical error to get rid of your experienced "generals" if they are against you to start with. They are worse than useless in that position; they are dangerous.

Plus, they are not really generals, but figureheads to a certain degree. They are rulers, not strategists. Really good fighters in their own right, but again, not really useful if they aren't willing to concede rule to her, nor follow her ideas. And very likely to confine her to the prison to which all Khaleesi are condemned once their Khal is dead.

I do agree that her vision is rather shortsighted, but as with all things, it isn't likely to go as planned when you plan too far in advance. She had designs on Meereen and the other cities in Slavers Bay that didn't work out as planned. Plus her dragons are nearly nonexistent as far as a military asset. (So far...) Had those ambitions given fruit she would seem to be a genius.

Ultimately I see the Dothraki as being less than ideal for her necessity. They were a dream created by her brother, who constantly failed to see logic due to his arrogance. The Dothraki are difficult to organize (even for her at this time) and are not used to fighting for foreigners. And don't forget that they would need to travel across the Dothraki sea, and they are almost uniformly afraid of deep water.

That said, I don't know what more she could be doing. Her house and family are ruined and she has nothing in Westeros to support her. She's getting help where she can.

 

[TheDudeLebowski]

She told them they that they were not leaders just before she raged on them. What were they going to do? Just argue about what women to take and horses to barter? They need a real leader. Their whole culture is built on talk and no action.

Most important lesson learned in this weeks episode: Fire is good. Smokin'

 

[krenshaw]

i loved the look on all the guys faces when she put her hand on the burning hot torch and just held it there.. then all i remember are ****s!

 

[GrogNerd]

have to agree the Dothraki most likely will not cross the sea to help her IF she ever makes it back to Westeros, however they should prove useful in re-liberating the cities of Slavers Bay

 

[Homercidal]

have to agree the Dothraki most likely will not cross the sea to help her IF she ever makes it back to Westeros, however they should prove useful in re-liberating the cities of Slavers Bay

That is a good point. I can't recall, but I think she needed ship from Slaver's Bay, so she might have a real need to go back there beyond freeing the slaves (And dragons...)

 

[BigPicture]

https://youtu.be/yTWkl3d9KKo

Brienne gets me every time. Just watching her kill all those soldiers is fantastic. The look in Tormund's eyes was just what the doctor ordered, & Brienne's expression, PRICELESS.

Admit it, Sansa naked gets you all sweaty too. She's developed more oomph than Jon. All that time with Petyr has rubbed off on her.

Don't even get me started on Arya.

We know Jon & Sansa are a thing, I wonder if Tormund & Brienne will hook up?

I love this show.

http://twitter.com/StormofSpoilers/status/733083369412657154/photo/1

 

[Talgrath]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO! HODOR! Hold the Door!

The Children of the Forest Made The White Walkers?!
Without a doubt the single biggest reveal of the night has to be the fact that the Children of The Forest made the White Walkers, apparently as a counter to the incursions of humans. Apparently things went off the rails, shocker that. We don't get to find out much else, unfortunately, but it's another key piece in overall picture of the White Walker threat.

Sansa Tells Littlefinger Where to Stick It
Sansa telling off Littlefinger has to be hugely satisfying, though I'm not sure it's smart in the long term. Also, the way Sansa worded things, it sounds like the theory that she's preggers could be right. Beyond that, I'm not so sure that Littlefinger wasn't just trying to lure Sansa into a trap. I guess this does put Brienne back in the Riverlands to potentially meet up with Jaime like in the books.

Enter The Other Red Woman
We got a new red priestess named Kinvara, and she might be an even better fire reader than Melisandre. Kinvara not only knew what Tyrion and Vaerys wanted, but could tell Vaerys all about his past too. It will be interesting to see how this plays out, in the books there was another red priestess that appeared to Dany in her dreams/visions/in her room at night (book isn't really clear) so this could be the introduction of that character.

Jorah Says Goodbye
With no hope of a cure, Jorah says his goodbyes. Danaerys tells him to find a cure but...I suspect he won't. In a night of sad times Jorah adds to the pile.

HODOR!
We find out how Hodor becomes Hodor, and it's more horrific than a mere kick to the head by a horse. In some sort of weird time-travelling warging mix up young Hodor sees his own death, it fries his brain and Wyllis becomes...Hodor. Probably one of the most noble and heart-wrenching deaths on the show to date. Summer and all of the remaining Children of the Forest along with the Three Eyed Raven all perish allowing Meera and Bran to escape. From an SFX point of view I thought the undead in the episode were excellent, the way they swarmed the ceilings and walls made them extra horrific.

That's gotta be one of the better episodes of the season so far and maybe of the series.

 

[Punity]

I haven't been so sad about a human origin and death in GOT. I always lose it for the wolves exits....which we lost another *********....what have they done to anyone!!!

 

[cegan09]

I read somewhere some fan theory/joke about hodor's name being from some event where he was being asked to hold a door. I'm 95% sure the person was joking because the whole setup was just nonsense. But the second they had Meera's "hold the door" echo into the past with Bran I knew what was coming. God Damn.

 

[TheDudeLebowski]

I wonder if the Night's King has the same ability as Bran transporting around in time since he was able to see and touch him. Maybe at one point the old man in the tree was training him for his benefit and then went off the rails. It seems a turning point once Bran's family decides to flee and everything goes down the crapper. That's when Hodor has his seizure and the old man dies.

 

[robdogj]

Enter The Other Red Woman
We got a new red priestess named Kinvara, and she might be an even better fire reader than Melisandre. Kinvara not only knew what Tyrion and Vaerys wanted, but could tell Vaerys all about his past too. It will be interesting to see how this plays out, in the books there was another red priestess that appeared to Dany in her dreams/visions/in her room at night (book isn't really clear) so this could be the introduction of that character.

I wonder how shrivelled up is Kinvara? also will we get the blessing to see her in the nude?

 

[HoppyDaze]

I wonder how shrivelled up is Kinvara? also will we get the blessing to see her in the nude?

Sure hope so, we need to balance out the weener wart.

 

[Talgrath]

I wonder if the Night's King has the same ability as Bran transporting around in time since he was able to see and touch him. Maybe at one point the old man in the tree was training him for his benefit and then went off the rails. It seems a turning point once Bran's family decides to flee and everything goes down the crapper. That's when Hodor has his seizure and the old man dies.

I don't think so, there weren't any signs of someone training him before the Children of the Forest magic stabbed him. I think that it was only when Bran looked at the tree in the modern day that he could see/sense him and mark him.

 

[Talgrath]

I wonder how shrivelled up is Kinvara? also will we get the blessing to see her in the nude?

Well, I've had a long-running theory that Melisandre is a fairly low power/low level priestess/sorceress while the other red priestess from the book that appears to Danaerys in visions is more of the "real deal"; assuming Kinvara is the same (or similar) red priestess from the books she could be powerful enough to maintain age and beauty without "glamours".

 

[robdogj]

Well, I've had a long-running theory that Melisandre is a fairly low power/low level priestess/sorceress while the other red priestess from the book that appears to Danaerys in visions is more of the "real deal"; assuming Kinvara is the same (or similar) red priestess from the books she could be powerful enough to maintain age and beauty without "glamours".

There are rumors that the Red Priestess in the books was Quaithe. You might remember this character in the 2nd season

 

[GrogNerd]

There are rumors that the Red Priestess in the books was Quaithe. You might remember this character in the 2nd season

not the same actress, but the necklace looks similar

 

[Talgrath]

There are rumors that the Red Priestess in the books was Quaithe. You might remember this character in the 2nd season

I forgot that they kinda, sorta included her and then dropped her on the show, good catch. In the books she shows up several times, including in Mereen and on the Dothraki grass sea after escaping Mereen. It's pretty clear she's using some red priestess magic to appear to Daenerys in dreams/visions after they leave Qarth though.

 

[robdogj]

I forgot that they kinda, sorta included her and then dropped her on the show, good catch. In the books she shows up several times, including in Mereen and on the Dothraki grass sea after escaping Mereen. It's pretty clear she's using some red priestess magic to appear to Daenerys in dreams/visions after they leave Qarth though.

I read a theory that there is competition between the Red Priests/Priestess to spread the Gospel of the Lord of Light. It will be interesting to see Kinvara's Role progress as we move along the story. It seems she has captured Varys' attention though.

 

[BigPicture]

Come on guys. You and I both know the only reason Kinvara shows up is cuz she has HUGE tits. And we're gonna see 'em!

Gotta keep those fan boys happy & keep tuning in.

Too many other actresses have made too much negative press about this. The producers just said............................................. And I personally think black hair is more exotic. I like exotic.

I bet Varys is thinking........................ If I only had a .............................

 

[TheDudeLebowski]

Yea but she's 302 years old!!!!!!! Sicko.

 

[HoppyDaze]

 

[Talgrath]

I read a theory that there is competition between the Red Priests/Priestess to spread the Gospel of the Lord of Light. It will be interesting to see Kinvara's Role progress as we move along the story. It seems she has captured Varys' attention though.

I've read that theory as well and I somewhat agree/believe in it. I think it's meant to be kind of like Roman Catholic vs Orthodox vs Protestants in that each sect believes they have the right answers but they're all very similar.

 

[Diamonddave74]

Nooooooooo! Hodor!

Oh. And Jon snow is the love child Rhaegar and Lyanna

3 eyed raven used greensight to tell the mad king to burn the white walkers (whispers said burn them all)

There is one God in the show

The chosen one gender has not been stated (Daenerys?)

 

[Talgrath]

Ugg, that episode was a slog and a half. I literally do not care about Sam or Gilly or the little daddy-daughter incest bastard at all. Also don't care about the High Sparrow stuff until we get to the Cleganebowl. The stuff I thought was interesting is pretty brief.

Benjen is Coldhands
Every book reader thought it was him, Martins has denied it but it looks like Coldhand really is Benjen Stark. nice to see that admission. Also the idea that Bran will be at the wall when the Night King comes is new and vaguely interesting...but you had to figure that this would wind up with a big fight at the Wall eventually.

Arya Finds Her Morals
Arya's "failed" test seems to be the result of her finding her morals again, apparently cold-blooded murder simply isn't within her. What will she do now is a big question though. Obviously a showdown with the waif is coming, I'm curious to see if Arya can kill her and what happens after that.

Danaerys Can Control Drogon
Forget the speech she gives the dothraki, the most important part of this episode for Danaerys is that she seems to be fully in control/in sync with Drogon now. Also a mention of three bloodriders...three dragons, the number three shows up yet again in relation to Danaerys.

Most of the rest of the episode was forgettable, next week looks more interesting and seems to be moving towards Sansa using her Littlefinger training to convince the northerners to back her.

 

[Talgrath]

In case you wanted it, here's a shot by shot breakdown of Bran's visions from last episode:

Bran's Vision

Nothing too crazy and a lot of it is stuff we've seen before, but there are definitely some new scenes. One thing I didn't pick up on was the significance of the wildfire blowing up in a tunnel, some people think this could mean that someone (probably Cersei) will try to use Wildfire to blow up part of the city.

 

[GrogNerd]

wildfire would be an excellent way to eradicate a snootload of wights all at the same time.

also, did you notice the new sigil on the Kingsguard armor? Crown + 7-pointed star

I think Margaery was saying what she needs to say to get out of the dungeons and avoid the Walk of Shame, but I'm afraid Tommen may have chugged the kool-aid