WildKnight
Well-Known Member
Just to bump a good thread....
I use brewpal on my iPhone for recipe calculations. It allows me to calculate FWH IBU's and it uses the defined boil time for calculating how many IBU's will come from the FWH. Thus, the FWH provide a full boil level of IBU's from the hops. So, for option 2 from a previous post (post #51), you will many more bittering IBU's than you want if you simply eliminate the 15 minute flavor additions and use both FWH and long boil hop additions. What you want to do instead, is use your long boil bittering hops during the FWH (eliminating the long boil hops) and leave the late additions alone.
I am not saying a bit more long boil hops (not used as FWH) or a bit of a reduction of late addition hops isn't warranted. You will definitely need to tweak it to you likings. I am just saying that adding both FWH and 60 minute boil hops will give you a very bitter beer.
For example, using a base recipe of 2-row (8 lbs) and carapils (1 lb) with a final gravity 1.052-1.056 and 3 oz of cascade hops (4.6% AA), you can get several IBU's. (the differences are MUCH greater with a 90 minute boil)
Option 1 (FWH only, no long boil, with late flavor add'n)
1oz FWH
0 oz 60 min
1 oz 15 min
1 oz 5 min
Total IBU = 33
Option 2 (both FWH & long boil, without flavor add'n):
1oz FWH
1 oz 60 min
0 oz 15 min
1 oz 5 min
Total IBU = 44
Option 3 (combination):
1oz FWH
1/2 oz 60 min
1/2 oz 15 min
1 oz 5 min
Total IBU = 38
I use brewpal on my iPhone for recipe calculations. It allows me to calculate FWH IBU's and it uses the defined boil time for calculating how many IBU's will come from the FWH. Thus, the FWH provide a full boil level of IBU's from the hops. So, for option 2 from a previous post (post #51), you will many more bittering IBU's than you want if you simply eliminate the 15 minute flavor additions and use both FWH and long boil hop additions. What you want to do instead, is use your long boil bittering hops during the FWH (eliminating the long boil hops) and leave the late additions alone.
I am not saying a bit more long boil hops (not used as FWH) or a bit of a reduction of late addition hops isn't warranted. You will definitely need to tweak it to you likings. I am just saying that adding both FWH and 60 minute boil hops will give you a very bitter beer.
For example, using a base recipe of 2-row (8 lbs) and carapils (1 lb) with a final gravity 1.052-1.056 and 3 oz of cascade hops (4.6% AA), you can get several IBU's. (the differences are MUCH greater with a 90 minute boil)
Option 1 (FWH only, no long boil, with late flavor add'n)
1oz FWH
0 oz 60 min
1 oz 15 min
1 oz 5 min
Total IBU = 33
Option 2 (both FWH & long boil, without flavor add'n):
1oz FWH
1 oz 60 min
0 oz 15 min
1 oz 5 min
Total IBU = 44
Option 3 (combination):
1oz FWH
1/2 oz 60 min
1/2 oz 15 min
1 oz 5 min
Total IBU = 38
