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the last time i was in naper-wrigleyville, i found lucky door to a have an above average taplist and the fancy big star to be enjoyable. both sorta had zero neighborhood charm but had good drinks & eats.
 
the last time i was in naper-wrigleyville, i found lucky door to a have an above average taplist and the fancy big star to be enjoyable. both sorta had zero neighborhood charm but had good drinks & eats.

I'm just happy the Ricketts didn't put in a World of Beer and a Chevy's Fresh Mex in those spots
 
The new spots in Rickettsville are pretty much all better than what was there before.
I don’t disagree but neighborhood charm or historical feel was replaced by paint by numbers Edison bulb rustic ********. Should’ve tried to design to look and feel like ya know, **** surrounding a historical landmark. Masses wanted Reclaimed wood and rust but it’s gonna look like tens dated **** in the upcoming (b)roaring 20’s.
 
I don’t disagree but neighborhood charm or historical feel was replaced by paint by numbers Edison bulb rustic ********. Should’ve tried to design to look and feel like ya know, **** surrounding a historical landmark. Masses wanted Reclaimed wood and rust but it’s gonna look like tens dated **** in the upcoming (b)roaring 20’s.
But isn't that just about any new place that's opened in the city/burbs in the last 5 years?

I remember walking into MORE when they opened and thinking: seriously, think decor AGAIN?!?!?
 
I dunno. I'm not mad. I think the law IS a good thing. I'm just not sure where it leads. The landscape is changing. It will continue to change. That's what **** does. **** changes.

As one of the jerks featured on that Insiders Roundtable episode, this is the point I was trying to make. Hard to do when you're on Skype and can't really interject/be part of the live conversation. The podcast was boring (as Insiders Roundtable usually is). Don't listen. And as someone who may open a brewery someday, I'm not necessarily against the law either -- just trying to stay abreast of the changes.

This issue will likely flesh itself out locally -- the Chicago market is a lot different than us "downstaters." Open a taproom, and even if the beer is crap, there's a line out the door. Too busy? Cool. Go to the bar (taproom?) next door. That's not how it works outside of urban markets though. There's not the same density of population (read: customers going out with cash in hand). John @ Solemn Oath asked me - "IF S.O. opened a Rockford taproom, how far away would be have to be to NOT be competition?" And I said, "I don't know man -- the indian buffet place, the biker bar down the street, the Old Chicago across town -- those are all competition for dining dollars." Do I want my competition to close? No, I like having a dive bar, and a biker bar, and German restaurant near me. But when it comes down to it, I want the butts in my seats. I'm not sure some of these brewers who have only been open a few years understand competition like long time retailers do.

Keep this in mind -- ten years ago, brewers had conniption fits complaining about AB buying Goose island, crying about how these huge conglomerates were going to control all tiers of the 3-tier system. Fast forward to today, where small brewers are producing, distributing, and now owning several retail locations. My, how things change.

TL:DR: Those who create long lasting relationships with their retail partners will be the ones that are still around in 5+ years.
 
But isn't that just about any new place that's opened in the city/burbs in the last 5 years?

I remember walking into MORE when they opened and thinking: seriously, think decor AGAIN?!?!?
oh its every new place and thats fine, i'm just bummed the places surrounding the historical landmark didn't try to design to a historical or timeless aesthetic. nothing remotely feels nieghborhood'y to me, but its not meant to i guess, its there to make money, its citibank & TD ameritrade present wrigley field. whats the opposite of rustic pipes, reclaimed wood and antique bronze...#middlebrow

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A friend is running the distributor that is bringing in Ale Apothecary (and brought in Cellarmen's for the mead / cider folks out there), and his massive advantage is having smaller brands with limited SKU's (which we all know is a problem for a lot of places even if they don't want to admit it) and a very targeted focus for these brands.

I'm also looking forward to it as it can't be more expensive than what I've paid in the past for bottles and shipping from west coast based online retailers.

I am also looking forward to this, and I agree about pricing. It's nearly impossible to get quality small batch beers out here for under $30 when you factor in shipping, etc. Great improvement to Chicago shelves! Just curious how much we'll actually get with it being such a small annual production brewery.
 
oh its every new place and thats fine, i'm just bummed the places surrounding the historical landmark didn't try to design to a historical or timeless aesthetic. nothing remotely feels nieghborhood'y to me, but its not meant to i guess, its there to make money, its citibank & TD ameritrade present wrigley field. whats the opposite of rustic pipes, reclaimed wood and antique bronze...#middlebrow

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You should really look into more comfy seating.. 100% booth seats pls
 
You should really look into more comfy seating.. 100% booth seats pls
hahaha...this is front of house cafe/lounge and this is architect rendering, it'll be much different though I can't guarantee comfortably.
 
neighborhood charm or historical feel

We're talking about Wrigleyville, right?

If there's one thing about Chicago I'll never understand is how a bunch of ****** college-style bars crammed around the worst stadium in all of sports (now that old Yankees stadium is gone) is somehow ******* charming. Twenty-something bros stumbling ****-faced down the street and vendors hocking racist t-shirts is the kind of thing most world-class cities try to get rid of.

Also, LOL @ white people complaining about how their neighborhood got more commercial.
 
We're talking about Wrigleyville, right?

If there's one thing about Chicago I'll never understand is how a bunch of ****** college-style bars crammed around the worst stadium in all of sports (now that old Yankees stadium is gone) is somehow ******* charming. Twenty-something bros stumbling ****-faced down the street and vendors hocking racist t-shirts is the kind of thing most world-class cities try to get rid of.

Also, LOL @ white people complaining about how their neighborhood got more commercial.
Points...I’m a Sox fan so I give zero *****, just thought it looked to boring modern commercial. Like it’s an inverted soldier field, fancy outside, ****** inside. I have no baseline as I only ventured through walking to the metro. Your right but replacing drunk college boys with drunk suburban dads & country rock finance bros might be a worse trade off.
 
You're the guy that puts shiplap over the beautiful brick fireplace.
That neighborhood isn't a "beautiful brick fireplace." It's dinged-up wall with dried Old Style stains under a poster with a "joke" about how "Beer Goggles" make women more fuckable. And the stadium is an uncomfortable relic with ****** sightlines and an overwhelming stench of urine in half of it.
 
And the stadium is an uncomfortable relic with ****** sightlines and an overwhelming stench of urine in half of it.
Can't say I've ever been uncomfortable or smelled urine at Wrigley. I do know better than to sit underneath the upperdeck, but everywhere else has great sightlines. The common 'fratboy' refrain from south siders tells me they haven't been to a game since 2003, as there isn't much of that left. There's really no difference in the seats between Downward-Red-Arrow Field and Wrigley either, except drunk fake Irish people won't tell me I deserve to get my ass kicked for wearing a Cubs hat sitting in Wrigley. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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Can't say I've ever been uncomfortable or smelled urine at Wrigley. I do know better than to sit underneath the upperdeck, but everywhere else has great sightlines. The common 'fratboy' refrain from south siders tells me they haven't been to a game since 2003, as there isn't much of that left. There's really no difference in the seats between Downward-Red-Arrow Field and Wrigley either, except drunk fake Irish people won't tell me I deserve to get my ass kicked for wearing a Cubs hat sitting in Wrigley. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Does Wrigley have these?

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case closed
 
Can't say I've ever been uncomfortable or smelled urine at Wrigley. I do know better than to sit underneath the upperdeck, but everywhere else has great sightlines. The common 'fratboy' refrain from south siders tells me they haven't been to a game since 2003, as there isn't much of that left. There's really no difference in the seats between Downward-Red-Arrow Field and Wrigley either, except drunk fake Irish people won't tell me I deserve to get my ass kicked for wearing a Cubs hat sitting in Wrigley. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If you wear Cubs gear to The Rake or Sox gear to Wrigley when neither team is playing, there is no sympathy for you.

Most people that I know, regardless of fandom, agree with that.
 
If you wear Cubs gear to The Rake or Sox gear to Wrigley when neither team is playing, there is no sympathy for you.

Most people that I know, regardless of fandom, agree with that.
Meanie sexual innuendo on a t-shirt = bad

Threats of physical violence = good


It turned out alright. Once they threatened me, I started yelling "STRETCH!" at pop-ups and "Kansas City special" at balls with at least a 100 mph exit velo.
 
Meanie sexual innuendo on a t-shirt = bad

Threats of physical violence = good


It turned out alright. Once they threatened me, I started yelling "STRETCH!" at pop-ups and "Kansas City special" at balls with at least a 100 mph exit velo.

I'll concede my "Up With Miniskirts" T-shirt is getting a little threadbare.
 

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