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What are your favorite old recipes, and do you still brew them or plan on revisiting?

When I first started brewing, I absolutely wore out a few copies of Papazian’s magnum opus. Half the fun was flipping through his recipes and reading about a beer’s journey through time and space. Not to mention the artwork. A person drinking from a vessel with stars pouring out was the first time I read about mead.

Anyways, back when his books were written, ingredients were limited and the quality was nowhere near today’s standards. Does anyone remember the little foil packets labeled “ale” and “lager”? A good amount of recipes back then called for some type of extract and cascade or saaz hops.

Because of this, many of the recipes contained adjuncts such as fruit and herbs. This was, no doubt, a way to make good beer with questionable malt extract and old hops. And it worked.

These recipes read more like suggestions, because you were never guaranteed to find the right extracts or hops at local brew shops. Fruit and herbs added another dimension. I’m not talking about your peanut butter, pickle and bacon stout. I’m talking about adding a pinch of ginger or a touch clove in holiday beer.

These days, any schmuck like myself with a modest amount of equipment (Anvil Foundry) and a few skills can make just about any style of beer, and make it pretty good. I can go to my lhbs and choose from malted barley from around the world and hops that have been flushed with nitrogen and bred for specific types of terpines. When it comes to yeast, I can choose strain qualities such as flocculation, temp range and ester levels.

It’s a great time to be a home brewer. I take advantage of the finest ingredients and equipment to knock out a few tasty batches of Pilsners, Vienna’s and others. But there are times when I get bored brewing to style. I miss some of the older recipes from older books and some from this forum. These beers were good, often they were great, but most of all they are unique to home brewers. Outside of a few friends and family of brewers, these beers will likely never be enjoyed by the public.

As a brewer I am forever grateful to those pioneers in our hobby. Not only some of the early authors but also those brewers on this forum as well. I brewed quite a few of BierMuncher’s recipes and they were all outstanding beers.

Below are a few of my old timey faves. More to come.


Vagabond Gingered Ale- found in Papazian’s book. It’s a dark ale w a healthy amount of fresh ginger added late in the boil. It’s been a few years since I made this but I’ll make a batch this fall. My mouth waters when I think of this beer.

Rocky Racoon’s lager- another recipe from this book (although he gives credit to another brewer). This was an easy way to make a lighter colored beer. Almost half the fermentables comes from honey. Those of us who started brewing with extracts know how hard it was to produce a lighter colored beer. I usually opted for the ginger variation. I may do a smaller batch soon. The cascades really popped in this recipe.

BierMuncher’s Centennial Blonde- found here on HBT. This was an absolute summer must brew. It’s light, refreshing and a simple brew. I used this recipe as a base and usually added lemon or grapefruit zest. I believe this was my first all grain beer I made. I recently visited a brewery on the OR coast and had their house blonde. Let’s just say that I wished they used BierMuncher’s recipe.

Blacklab’s Cascade/Orange Pale Ale- HBT recipe. A super crushable pale ale (remember those?). A pretty standard pale ale recipe with orange zest and coriander. Absolutely genius flavor combo. Delicious as is but sometimes I’d sub the coriander with about 1 or 2 oz of fresh ginger late in the boil. This beer is dangerous on a hot summer day.

What are some of your favorite old school, antiquated, old fashioned recipes, and do you plan on brewing them again?
 
I started down the road of re-visiting some old school recipes about 2 years ago. “Tasty” Mike Mcdole’s Double IPA and Janet’s Brown ale come to mind along with some more obscure selections like Da Yoopers house Pale ale and a clone of TenFidy imperial stout.
 
Not sure what defines "old timey", but Janet's Brown and the clone recipe for Pete's Wicked Ale are two recipes from when I was first a homebrewer that I still revisit now and then. My favorite one though is Terry Foster's recreation of a 1744 Porter . It's a fantastic beer and I have done well in comps with it both as an English Porter and as a Pre-Pro Porter. I believe the recipe is in his Porter book also. Lastly is Ballantine's IPA clone recipe, just for nostagia, as Ballentine was a beer my father drank when I was a kid, that I may have stolen a few sips of in my teen years.
 
One of the first recipes I brewed at home was a simple summer wheat. I was partially mashing at the time. Pils (plus extract), Wheat Malt (plus extract), as much flaked wheat as I could use in my PM and still get conversion, then steep some C20. Centennial, cascade, some type of neutral ale yeast. Then a ton of orange zest and lemon zest with a touch of dry hops. 5% abv summer beer.
 
One of the first recipes I brewed at home was a simple summer wheat. I was partially mashing at the time. Pils (plus extract), Wheat Malt (plus extract), as much flaked wheat as I could use in my PM and still get conversion, then steep some C20. Centennial, cascade, some type of neutral ale yeast. Then a ton of orange zest and lemon zest with a touch of dry hops. 5% abv summer beer.
Do you still brew this? This sounds like my kind of beer.
In my extract days, I used a ton of citrus zest and ginger. Probably to overcome stale LME.
 
Do you still brew this? This sounds like my kind of beer.
In my extract days, I used a ton of citrus zest and ginger. Probably to overcome stale LME.
It's been a few years, but last time I brewed it AG:
5lb. Pils
5lb. White Wheat
1lb. Flaked Wheat
0.5lb. C20
Centennial @ 60 to 20 IBUs
0.5oz. Cascade @ 15
0.5oz. Cascade @ 0
Mash @ 150F

WY1007 but this would work with a lot of yeasts

Dry Hop with 0.5oz Centennial & zest of 2 oranges and 2 lemons
 
I used to brew 10 gallons in a 3-keggle system. Haven't done it for many years, but when ingredient choices were limited, my House Pale Ale was:

16 lbs 2-Row
4 lbs Vienna
2 lbs c20
2 oz Cascade at 60
2 oz Cascade at 20
I then split it into 2 fermenters. 1 got US05, 1 got Nottingham.

Ended up about 5.5% and 35 IBU. I got about 1/2, friends drank about 1/2. Went over very well among those who wanted a tasty beer but not super-hoppy or overly complex.
 
I used to brew 10 gallons in a 3-keggle system. Haven't done it for many years, but when ingredient choices were limited, my House Pale Ale was:

16 lbs 2-Row
4 lbs Vienna
2 lbs c20
2 oz Cascade at 60
2 oz Cascade at 20
I then split it into 2 fermenters. 1 got US05, 1 got Nottingham.

Ended up about 5.5% and 35 IBU. I got about 1/2, friends drank about 1/2. Went over very well among those who wanted a tasty beer but not super-hoppy or overly complex.
For this recipe, which yeast was your favorite?
 
For this recipe, which yeast was your favorite?
I preferred Notty for it. It left a nice clean hop and malt profile, whereas US05 tended to add esters I didn't like as much. BMC drinkers preferred the US05, so that's why I split it. They got the US05; I drank the Notty.
 
I don't consider any of Papazian's recipes "old". But then again 80% to 90% of what I brew come from Ron Pattinson or Edd Mathers blogs where they revive recipes from the 1800's. One of my all time favorites that I have brewed many times is this one...

1880 Whitbread Porter
9 lbs Pale Malt
1 lb 12 oz Brown Malt
12 oz Black Malt (not patent)
2 oz East Kent Goldings (6.4%) boil 60 minutes

WLP002 English Ale Yeast

Mashed at 152 for 60 minutes.

My intent was to brew a traditional, English Porter as a starting point to build up a modern, robust porter. However upon first taste I don't think I want to change this recipe much if any. The recipe is one of Ron Pattinson's historic recreations based on Whitbread brewing logs.

The color is a rich, dark chocolate. The head is dark caramel brown. The aroma is roasty and coffee-like. The flavor is much the same, roasty, coffee and chocolaty. It is has a slight sweetness but not too much. There is a hint of hop bitterness but again, not too much. I think I hit the Goldilocks zone with this one. And as soon as I finished the first pint I immediately wanted another.
 
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I usually just go to the recipes forum and sort on most viewed or replied and all the good old timers pop up.

I actually need to brew more of these. Now days most recipes add way too many later addition hops.
 
I usually just go to the recipes forum and sort on most viewed or replied and all the good old timers pop up.

I actually need to brew more of these. Now days most recipes add way too many later addition hops.
I agree with you on the hop arms race.
I wanna make a T-shirt that says-

Bro- Put the hops down, step away from the kettle!
 
John Palmer's Your Father's Mustache Pre-Prohibition lager. Won me my first Best of Show award nearly 15 years ago.

Original recipe called for Cluster, Liberty and Northern Brewer hops. I'd brewed it in March, and it sat in the keg until June/July partially consumed. It had been brewed mostly on a whim and I liked it, but nothing made it stand out IMHO. In June we had traveled cross-counrty in our motorhome to the Pacific Northwest and had visited wineries and hop farms, stopping by Yakima Chief. I asked about any new varietals, and they mentioned Cluster Fugget as a new blend of Cluster, Fuggles and Nugget.

The name was so catchy I just had to pick up a few 2 oz. packets. I assumed then (and still believe to this day) that somebody had screwed up badly in the sorting and packaging room, and had mixed together some random T-90s by mistake. Rather than dump the whole load out, they decided to package and sell them as a 'new' hop varietal. Anyway, I smelled those aromatic bad boys all the way from Washington State to Washington, D.C., and let me tell ya', it grew on me!

Shortly after arriving back home, I was bottling some beers for competition and needed just one more entry to fill my quota. I tapped off a 'Mustache to see if I wanted to make it my "filler" beer. It was, meh, O.K., but I thought a dry hop boost might improve the quality. But I didn't want to spend any more money on a so-so beer. Then I remembered the Cluster Fugget. Boom!. Into the keg they went. A week later I fined the beer and thought, "This s**t is GOOD!" So, bottle it, I did, and the rest is brewing history. At least for me it is.

The next season I looked for a repeat of Cluster Fugget, but it seemed like YCH had just made it a One-Off. Then a year or two ago I saw it advertised and bought a bag out of curiosity. It rests today in the beer fridge freezer with at least 25# of other hops, waiting once again for the opportunity to create fire in a bottle. And it lives in my memory as "the one chance encounter that didn't get away."
 
A belated Congrats on the medal!

Though only related by name, another favorite was a recipe found here, called "Otto's Mustache", a leichtbier. Or as I referred to it, a session pilz. That thread never got the traffic it deserved. A wonderfully simple, crushable table beer. I wish I had a batch of this in my kegerator now. Hats off to the creator.

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/threads/ottos-mustache.650505/
 
I started down the road of re-visiting some old school recipes about 2 years ago. “Tasty” Mike Mcdole’s Double IPA and Janet’s Brown ale come to mind along with some more obscure selections like Da Yoopers house Pale ale and a clone of TenFidy imperial stout.

Did you just call me OLD?????? Well, I am but still.....

I'm mostly brewing some classic west coast IPAs now, with the C-hops so popular in the 1980s. Nothing colonial or historic, unless the 1980s beers are now considered so old school. I've also got a traditional German pilsner on tap, and it's great for summer drinking for sure. (It was even step mashed).
 
In my (pretty old) mind, I’m thinking “old school” recipes would include anything before like 2010, which is when I started getting a little more serious about brewing.
 
In my (pretty old) mind, I’m thinking “old school” recipes would include anything before like 2010, which is when I started getting a little more serious about brewing.
Agreed ^. "Old School" is probably a much better term to describe those recipes I was referring to.

I guess I was trying to discuss older homebrew recipes. Many of our hobbies’ pioneers formulated recipes that weren’t necessarily to style, rather brews that could be made with available ingredients and equipment.
 
Most of the older recipes have specialty LME.
Converting extracts to grain is a dying skill. Not just the weights, but also the steeping grains.
 
I guess I was trying to discuss older homebrew recipes. Many of our hobbies’ pioneers formulated recipes that weren’t necessarily to style, rather brews that could be made with available ingredients and equipment.
So Cat's Meow (circa 1996) and books (like Homebrew Favorites Storey Publishing, 1994)?

Most of the older recipes have specialty LME.
Converting extracts to grain is a dying skill. Not just the weights, but also the steeping grains.
Internet Archives "Way Back Machine" is an excellent resource for this type of conversion. And it can be done, and done successfully -- back in 2022, there was a topic here that successfully converted "Bituminous Stout": Homebrew Favorites (Storey Publishing, 1994), p 118 to all-grain.

Converting these recipes is often 1 part "Charlie Papazian", one part "Gordon Strong", and one part "Randy Mosher".

If you're serious about trying to convert something from the 1990s or early 200s, with the intent of "brewing a memory", post a recipe & tag me.
 
So Cat's Meow (circa 1996) and books (like Homebrew Favorites Storey Publishing, 1994)?


Internet Archives "Way Back Machine" is an excellent resource for this type of conversion. And it can be done, and done successfully -- back in 2022, there was a topic here that successfully converted "Bituminous Stout": Homebrew Favorites (Storey Publishing, 1994), p 118 to all-grain.

Converting these recipes is often 1 part "Charlie Papazian", one part "Gordon Strong", and one part "Randy Mosher".

If you're serious about trying to convert something from the 1990s or early 200s, with the intent of "brewing a memory", post a recipe & tag me.
I may be hitting you up this fall. I seem to have misplaced my old recipe book that contains my vagabond ale all grain conversion.
 

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