Fat Tire Clone

[DeRoux's Broux]

(how to ship a keg?)

 

[Walker]

(how to ship a keg?)

I'll come pick it up from you.

-walker

 

[Walker]

wait! my sis-in-law's boyfriend is coming up from El Paso soon. I'll have him swing by. This will give me another opportunity to tell him, "Ramone.. bring me my beer." (that's for gaelone.)

-walker

 

[DeRoux's Broux]

um........uh, i hate for him to go through all that trouble.... :~) but he can sample it and give you a review!

 

[Walker]

um........uh, i hate for him to go through all that trouble.... :~) but he can sample it and give you a review!

he wouldn't like it, I'm sure. He's a light lager drinker. you're just going to have to give me the whole keg, DeRoux.

-walker

 

[Walker]

Can't wait for the review. You will be tasting it tonight, no matter what, right?

Unfortunately, I came home last night to find a very lengthy "Honey Do" list. By the time I got through that pile of work, it was about 11:30pm. No way I was going to try and start bottling then.

I'm shooting to do it tonight... again...

-walker

 

[DeRoux's Broux]

hang in there bro. just don't go burying that bottled beer in the back yard! LOL!

 

[Walker]

ARGH! Another list of chores kept be busy until after 10pm, so it's not it bottles yet. Tonight is out of the question, because I have to put together a previously un-used daybed.

Why? Because the worst of situations is about to begin: my mother-in-law is visiting for the week. She'll be at my house when I get home, and won't leave until next Sunday. Good god, I don't know if I can handle her for 10 days.

She's a nice lady, but I swear to god... she NEVER SHUTS HER MOUTH.

She's also a bit narcoleptic. She'll just suddenly nod off in the middle of one of her soliloquies and start snoring. Then, 30 minutes later, she'll pop right back up and keep talking like nothing ever happened.

Thank the beer gods I have about 2 full batches bottled and ready to drink if necessary!

If I could figure out how to do it, I'd bury MYSELF in the ground.

-walker

 

[Dude]

Why? Because the worst of situations is about to begin: my mother-in-law is visiting for the week. She'll be at my house when I get home, and won't leave until next Sunday. Good god, I don't know if I can handle her for 10 days.

She's a nice lady, but I swear to god... she NEVER SHUTS HER MOUTH.

Dude, I don't even want to hear it. I live in the same damn city as my Mother-in-lawS. Yes, I said mother-in-laws, PLURAL. My wife's parents divorced and both remarried.
Fortunately both of them are pretty cool, but my wife's real mother can really push my buttons. I know she does it on purpose too.

Anyway, I've noticed through past experience that a flask comes in handy during these troubling times. Fill it with Jager or something smooth and gulp between sips of homebrew.

 

[Baron von BeeGee]

I've found it seems to help if your MIL lives in another country and doesn't speak the same language.

 

[DeRoux's Broux]

well, i'm drinking my Fat Tyre as i brew my ESB..........and.......i haven't done a side-by-side yet, put the first pull was (what seems to me) a tad darker and hoppier (as we have all seemed to note). i do a comparison on about the 4-5 pint, make sure all the sediment is out ;~)

 

[Walker]

I've noticed through past experience that a flask comes in handy during these troubling times. Fill it with Jager or something smooth and gulp between sips of homebrew.

Dude, when she's on one of her rambling, sleep-interrupted monologues, a big swig of arsenic would be fine by me.

-walker

 

[DeRoux's Broux]

okay, i still haven't done a side by side, but as my clone warms (which i prefer), it takes on a belgian dubbel tone. a little chocolate, raisin finsish.......strange......warm fuzzies.......

 

[homebrewer_99]

I picked up a copy of Ber Captured yesterday. It looks good.

 

[DeRoux's Broux]

how does that recipe look? (or was it posted already????)

 

[El Pistolero]

how does that recipe look? (or was it posted already????)

Here's the recipe from Beer Captured

Fat Tire Amber Ale
8 oz. US 80L Crystal Malt
6 oz. German Munich Malt
4 oz. US Victory Malt
3 oz. Belgian Biscuit Malt

4 lb. Alexanders Pale Malt Extract Syrup
2.5 lb. Muntons Extra Light DME

1/3 oz. Yakima Magnum @ 15% AA (5 HBU)

1/2 oz. German Hallertau Hersbrucker
1 tsp. Irish Moss

1/4 oz. Willamette

Wyeast 1762 Belgian Abbey II, or
Wyeast 1388 Belgian Stron Ale

I brewed this last night, with a couple of changes. Defalco's doesn't carry Victory Malt...they said it's the same as bisquit malt, and they suggested that I try aromatic which I did. Also, I used White Labs WLP530 Belgian Abbey Ale Yeast instead of the Wyeast.

 

[DeRoux's Broux]

wow! that's almost nothing like mine. the only thing the same is the munich and biscuit (mine had 2 oz biscuit). plus, mine was AG. looks good though!

 

[homebrewer_99]

wow! that's almost nothing like mine. the only thing the same is the munich and biscuit (mine had 2 oz biscuit). plus, mine was AG. looks good though!

Too bad you can't get an original and do a side-by-side taste testing. Or can you?

I would REALLY be interested in that.

 

[El Pistolero]

wow! that's almost nothing like mine. the only thing the same is the munich and biscuit (mine had 2 oz biscuit). plus, mine was AG. looks good though!

There does seem to be a lot of wildly different opinions about how to make this...we'll just have to see I guess. Hopefully it will be good...I was a little concerned that I was going to have a slow start, because the starter took two days to get going. Boy was I wrong about that...pitched late last night and woke up at 7am to bubbles every 3 secs and an inch of krausen! It boggles my mind that people don't make starters.

 

[DeRoux's Broux]

HB, i can do a side-by-side. i've got some Tire in the fridge ready for the challenge. i'm just giving mine another day or two to let the carbonation settle from "forcing".
you know, it supposed to be a belgian "pale ale" and i wondered why my HBS suggested the Cali Ale? but tasting it, it has a dubbel kinda finish. must be the biscuit?
it'll be good, and i'm eager to brew it agian and use some of the malts listed in the Beer Captured recipe (and Belgian yeast!).

 

[DeRoux's Broux]

well, it looks more like a stout in the pic, but it ain't! take a look in my gallery. too big to addin the post. plus you can check out the homebrewtalk.com sticker on my keg fridge. pretty cool.

 

[Walker]

THE CURSE OF PANDORA'S BOX CONTINUES!

Mine still isn't in the bottles. I'm so far behind on bottling this one, the batch right behind it (my 80/-) is also due to be bottled, so I was going to have a 2-batch bottling night yesterday.

I went to the LHBS because I was a little short on bottle caps and flippie seals and I also wanted to pick up some no-rinse sanitizer (I refuse to rinse 2 batches worth of bottles in one evening.)

Anyway, while I was there, I picked up a few other items. In total, I had three bags of merchandise. I grabbed my bags, drove off, and picked up some things for SWMBO at the grocery store before heading home. I carried the groceries inside when I got home and left the brew stuff in the car.

After the kiddies were in bed, I went out to get my things from the car and realized that I had only TWO bags of my stuff. The bag that was missing contained; bottle caps, flippie seals, and my idophor.

@^%^#@!

My LHBS doesn't open up again until Thursday, so I'm kind of stuck. I might be able to get one batch bottled, but I'll be forced to use my b-brite sanitizer and rinse everything like normal.

This beer better be f*cking good, seeing as how the entire experience with it has been difficult.

-walker

 

[Dude]

This beer better be f*cking good, seeing as how the entire experience with it has been difficult.

-walker

LOL.....it'll be wonderful!!!!

I wish you would hurry up and taste it though--I have about a half gallon (or possibly less) left in my keg after the brewday Saturday. If you don't hurry and taswte yours we won't have samples to compare against as we talk back and forth about what we would change!

 

[Baron von BeeGee]

After the kiddies were in bed, I went out to get my things from the car and realized that I had only TWO bags of my stuff. The bag that was missing contained; bottle caps, flippie seals, and my idophor.

When it rains it pours! I popped in their Saturday for a new batch and somebody had just walked out leaving a bag of merchandise there. Had to doublecheck your post and make sure you were talking about Sunday, or I would have guessed it was you! Make sure you don't get the other guy's stuff when you go back. :cross:

 

[Walker]

BeeGee, you are correct.. I was in there SATURDAY, but didn't notice the stuff was missing until Sunday evening when it was too late.

Hell, we must have just missed each other at the shop. One of these days, we WILL meet.

-walker

 

[Baron von BeeGee]

Yeah, maybe lunch after the holidays, or I plan to pop in AB on Thursday evenings from now on. I should have snagged your bag and flaunted it on the board!

 

[Walker]

I wonder if you were in the shop at the same time as me? I came into the place while they were in the midst of a HUGE rush of customers. When I left, there were only a couple people remaining. I had a short conversation with some bearded guy about the idophor I was buying, then I left (without the idophor.)

-walker

 

[Walker]

I wish you would hurry up and taste it though--I have about a half gallon (or possibly less) left in my keg after the brewday Saturday. If you don't hurry and taswte yours we won't have samples to compare against as we talk back and forth about what we would change!

I promise I'll taste it tonight, regardless of whether I attempt to bottle it tonight. I don't know how well I'll be able to describe the flavor, though.

My case of Fat Tire from El Paso should have arrived this weekend. I saw my sis-in-law last night, but forgot to ask about the brew hey boyfriend was supposed to bring. I hope they didn't neglect to bring it! I'm counting on it for my comparison.

-waler

 

[Baron von BeeGee]

I wonder if you were in the shop at the same time as me? I came into the place while they were in the midst of a HUGE rush of customers. When I left, there were only a couple people remaining. I had a short conversation with some bearded guy about the idophor I was buying, then I left (without the idophor.)

I think perhaps you had already left, as the bag was laying on the counter the whole time I was there. They were in another mad rush of customers when we got there, and when we left. The guys looked pretty harried! But good for business is good for me. I noticed they have some new grains now, including my new favorite - melanoidin malt.

 

[Dude]

I promise I'll taste it tonight, regardless of whether I attempt to bottle it tonight. I don't know how well I'll be able to describe the flavor, though.

My case of Fat Tire from El Paso should have arrived this weekend. I saw my sis-in-law last night, but forgot to ask about the brew hey boyfriend was supposed to bring. I hope they didn't neglect to bring it! I'm counting on it for my comparison.

-waler

The only thing I think I will change in mine is drop the biscuit malt just a touch. Maybe not too. I dunno.

I definitely "think" mine is hoppier than the real stuff, but keep in mind I had Fat Tire before I turned into a beer snob. So back then I thought it was hoppy. My imagination wants it to be hoppy so I think this version fits in that frame of mind.
I had a dude over Saturday that tried it--not knowing it was homebrew, and said it was spot on. He thought it was actual Fat Tire. I'll take that FWIW, but it made me feel pretty damn good.