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Man, so many judgemental people here. We are here to brew beer. Tastes is ones' own. Just because someone likes something or doesn't, it doesn't mean its better or worse. What the crap, if people are going to drag you out into the street and shoot you then they are in the wrong place. Maybe some of the people who are crapping on people might need to stop looking down thier pants so they won't be so pissed off they have a small unit.
 
modenacart said:
Man, so many judgemental people here. We are here to brew beer. Tastes is ones' own. Just because someone likes something or doesn't, it doesn't mean its better or worse. What the crap, if people are going to drag you out into the street and shoot you then they are in the wrong place. Maybe some of the people who are crapping on people might need to stop looking down thier pants so they won't be so pissed off they have a small unit.

I can assure you that I do not have a small unit.

Now, let's get back on topic, ok?
The topic is his FT clone. Let's stick to it.
 
Ok, I brew a fat tire clone that I thought was pretty good. It was from brew your own, and was

8.4 lbs Pale malt
0.6 lbs 20l crystal
0.6 lbs 40l crystal
0.6 lbs munich
0.6 lbs biscuit
0.6 lbs chocolate
0.6 lbs carapils

1 oz willimette 60 mintues
0.5 oz Tettnager 20 mintues
0.5 oz tettnager 1 mintue

California ale yeast.

6 gallons of finished beer.

And I don't know why you dumped on me. So many people were sh*ting on this guy for liking Fat Tire and wanting to brew it, you should be Sh*ting on them, not me.
 
Thanks for sharing your recipe, modenacart. And I think you misinterpretted Yooper's post. Her criticism was aimed at everyone here, not just you. She must have picked up on your 'small unit' comment, though. ;)
 
modenacart said:
And I don't know why you dumped on me. So many people were sh*ting on this guy for liking Fat Tire and wanting to brew it, you should be Sh*ting on them, not me.

Oh I'm not dumping on you! I'm just asking for ALL posts to be on topic. You just commented on the size of our units, and some of us are sensitive about that.

Let's stay on topic and keep our opinions about Fat Tire to ourselves, ok? I happen to dislike it, but my husband loves it. So, I brew it for him, and we're both happy.

I like the recipe that modenacart posted- but I'm not a chocolate malt fan. That still looks good to me, though.
 
I can't believe the people that slam people when they ask for help. If they are asking for help, they want help, not people telling them they are trying to brew something they think is "crappy." Crappy is only an opinion.

One thing to keep in mind, when brewing a clone, if the water you are using is very different than the water of the brewery that is making the beer, its not going to taste the same. As long as it taste good, then I would be happy. If you follow the recipie and it taste different, it might be worth having getting your water profile so you can try to match the proper one.
 
If you read what I typed, it was directed at all the people who talked crap to the guy who just wanted help with his brewing and was directed at no one else.
 
I dunno if I'd add chocolate malt to a Fat Tire recipe. It doesn't quite seem appropriate. Munich with just a touch of Special B sound like better options.

Let's quit apologizing to each other in this thread - that's just as cluttering as the "I hate Fat Tire" posts. If it's not on topic, don't bother. If you feel the need to redeem yourself, send a PM.
 
Its an amber ale, so there is a lot of liberty with the color. Chocolate should be ok, but if you don't want to use it, leave it out.
 
Sorry in advance. This will be on and off topic...

First, one of the reasons that I'd bet most of us brew is that we hate the taste of commercial brew. I've never had a Fat Tire Ale that was an original so I have no opinion. It might be good - it might be bad.

Second, we are people. Therefore we are full of opinions. The internet, and forums more specifically, almost beg us to let those opinions be known. Being judgemental of people's opinions when a topic that they feel strongly about is just as bad as those people being judgemental about the the topic they are responding to.

I made a Fat Tire Clone as my first homebrew from a recipe I found in "Beer Captured" by Tess and Mark Szamatulski. I did the mini-mash version. I am neither a fan not a hater of this brew. I will tell you this - It's a brew that I feel requires patience. This could easily be the OP's problem. I know mine was flagging down a troop of monkeys for the first month I drank it. Now, the banana aroma is completely gone. It tastes "OK" but is not something I see myself brewing again. I have 2 bottles left that I will probably let age another 3 or 4 months just to see if it tastes that much better...we'll see. My point here is that maybe he should wait awhile.

For any interested, here's the recipe I used:

1.5 lbs Belgian 2-row
8 oz US 80L Crystal
6 oz German Munich
4 oz US Victory
3 oz Belgian Biscuit

30 minutes steeping and then ladle sparging

4 lbs alexanders Pale Malt Extract Syrup
2.5 muntons extra light dry malt extract
1/3 oz yakima magnum @15 AA

start of boil

1/2 german hallertau Hersbrucker
1 tsp of irish moss

45 min into boil

1/4 oz willamette

50 min into boil

yeast: the recipe calls for wyeast 1762 belgian abbey II. I used White labs Belgian ale WLP550

:tank:
 
Part of the problem with the recipe above is that Fat Tire is not a Belgian beer and the brewer himself said he uses Wyeast 1056 American Ale. No wonder you didn't like it.

Forrest
 
Austinhomebrew said:
Part of the problem with the recipe above is that Fat Tire is not a Belgian beer and the brewer himself said he uses Wyeast 1056 American Ale. No wonder you didn't like it.

Forrest


Thanks for being one of the only online suppliers who actually get that!
 
Yuri_Rage said:
That recipe looks pretty good. The ferment was a little on the high side, especially with a fruity Belgian yeast in a beer that only has a hint of esters in the flavor. Was the beer overly yeasty or fruity?

The beer seemed yeasty as you described...was this the high fermentation temperature?
 
Ewalk02 said:
The beer seemed yeasty as you described...was this the high fermentation temperature?

usually a yeasty off taste is due to the beer being to green and a little more aging will help it. If the beer has been aging quite long and it still tastes yeasty, Odds are that the yeast you pitched was to old or unhealthy.
 
I've never had Fat Tire before, and I don't recall seeing it at any of the liquor stores around me. Is it similar to any other commercial beers? For those of you who hate Fat Tire, what's a "better" version of it's style? I generally don't mind if people don't like a particular beer that I enjoy, but if they know of something that's even better, I would really want to try it out!
 
we picked up a keg of Fat tire from new belgium brewery itself last year during the GABF. Whatever they had in that keg was NOT what we get in bottles down here in AZ. That keg was fan-freakin-tastic.

Sure the bottles were pasteurized and probably sat in a warehouse all summer long too
 
i ve brewed the one from AHBS and it was dead on personally. actually had a friend in town from CO and he said that it tasted better than a fat tire.
 
Chimone said:
we picked up a keg of Fat tire from new belgium brewery itself last year during the GABF. Whatever they had in that keg was NOT what we get in bottles down here in AZ. That keg was fan-freakin-tastic.

Sure the bottles were pasteurized and probably sat in a warehouse all summer long too

I find a lot of kegs taste much better than the bottled version. I don't think that unique to fat tire.
 

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