Equally Obnoxious Hockey Trash Talk Thread, eh?

[Goofynewfie]

There's a reason why everyone's sleeping when the Wild play the Blue Jackets.

Ill give you that one amd the coyotes, but the entire southeast division isnt much better, not counting Stamkos

 

[paulster2626]

Ill give you that one amd the coyotes, but the entire southeast division isnt much better, not counting Stamkos

Yes but they still get to play real hockey teams which is entertaining, unlike those wallowing in Western Conference irrelevance.

 

[solbes]

Yeah those Hawks don't play any real teams. They are just not that good. :smack:

It's like a team with 2 first lines and a second. Dayum

Wild may be sleepy at times, but The Oil were out cold in the second period a few nights ago. Too bad someone lulled them out of a deep REM sleep.

 

[Goofynewfie]

Just wait till sunday when the oil end the hawks streak.
Of course the oil fell asleep in Minnesota, it can get pretty boring playing in an empty building

 

[paulster2626]

Just wait till sunday when the oil end the hawks streak.
Of course the oil fell asleep in Minnesota, it can get pretty boring playing in an empty building

But if they start winning, how are they going to draft first overall again and continue to build this magical powerhouse team?

What a mess that franchise is.

 

[MeatyPortion]

Yes but they still get to play real hockey teams which is entertaining, unlike those wallowing in Western Conference irrelevance.

lol, are you high?

Florida Panthers, Tampa Bay Lightning, Carolina Hurricanes, Islanders, Jets, Maple Leafs, etc. The Eastern Conference has a ton of so-so teams as well so don't act like the other half of the league is irrelevant, especially when the list of Stanley Cup winners is pretty evenly split over the last decade between conferences. You're just leading up to being able to watch the eastern conference teams collapse in the playoffs.

 

[Goofynewfie]

But if they start winning, how are they going to draft first overall again and continue to build this magical powerhouse team?

What a mess that franchise is.

ive been secretly hoping that they would follow the leafs blueprint for success from the past 10 years, but it seems to change from year to year
It doesnt matter wether you finsh 30th or 17th, you play the same number of playoff games. The oil have won 15 more playoff games than the make believes have even played in the last decade

 

[paulster2626]

ive been secretly hoping that they would follow the leafs blueprint for success from the past 10 years, but it seems to change from year to year
It doesnt matter wether you finsh 30th or 17th, you play the same number of playoff games. The oil have won 15 more playoff games than the make believes have even played in the last decade

Oh wait, did the Paulster make a valid point? HE DID??? Oh man, better deflect in to something irrelevant about the Leafs sucking.

I did not say the Leafs model of building winners during the JFJ era was a good one. Although it does seem that Burke did manage to put some (lots?) pieces together before getting mysteriously canned.

Aaaannnnyyway - all we heard from Oilers fans this summer was "oooooh look at us, we have Eberle/Hall/Yakupov/Nuge! Ooooooh now we have Shultz we're gonna make the playoffs!! EDMONTON REBUILDING BY TANKING YIPPEEE!"

But now we have the standings. Turns out sucking so hard you get first overall for 3 years doesn't really pay off as immediately as you'd hope. But hey, at least you got Mike Brown!!

But since you brought it up, Toronto is now showing signs of being able to develop prospects properly, playing a structured defensive game, killing penalties, and - dare I say it - some decent goaltending. I guess that's why they're actually showing signs of real improvement, while the Oilers continue to feed at the bottom of the NHL where their fans seem to be so happy to be.

Here's a riddle for you: How many first overall picks does it take to build a good team?

 

[dudius]

The Detroit Lions would tell you they're still working on figuring that out.

 

[Goofynewfie]

What was the valid point? That long term the oil having good forwards, a very solid ( not a star but still very capable) goaltender along with a potential future star ( schultz) and a very underrated dman ( smid) makes them a mess compared to a team who traded away 3 draft picks for kessel ( who may be gone this year), two inconsistent unproven goalies who do have potential,one of the most overrated defenseman in the league ( phaneuf) and a reputation as a team who can't get it done in the second half of the season. finish high enough to miss the playoffs but not low enough to get a decent draft pick. Doesnt really matter though if only 1 of the first round picks from the last decade even plays a game in the NHL.

I'm not saying The oilers are potential dynasty, but if you look at the last 10 years for both teams and the next 10 years I know who I think looks like they're going to be in better shape.
I figure you'll agree with me on this, any oil fan who brings up the 80s and any leaf hater who says 1967 to try and win their argument needs to stop living in the past

 

[paulster2626]

What was the valid point? That long term the oil having good forwards, a very solid ( not a star but still very capable) goaltender along with a potential future star ( schultz) and a very underrated dman ( smid) makes them a mess compared to a team who traded away 3 draft picks for kessel ( who may be gone this year), two inconsistent unproven goalies who do have potential,one of the most overrated defenseman in the league ( phaneuf) and a reputation as a team who can't get it done in the second half of the season. finish high enough to miss the playoffs but not low enough to get a decent draft pick. Doesnt really matter though if only 1 of the first round picks from the last decade even plays a game in the NHL.

I'm not saying The oilers are potential dynasty, but if you look at the last 10 years for both teams and the next 10 years I know who I think looks like they're going to be in better shape.
I figure you'll agree with me on this, any oil fan who brings up the 80s and any leaf hater who says 1967 to try and win their argument needs to stop living in the past

First, the Kessel trade. Sure, the Leafs paid a high price for a proven goal scorer, but that's just the way it goes. I'd say both teams benefited from it, but as we know on the internet one team has to win every trade, so fine - we'll say the Bruins made out like bandits for arguments sake.

Why do you think Kessel is gone this year? He's got one year left, and appears to be having fun playing with his young teammates. If Toronto wants to keep him, they will.

The D:
Edmonton:
Jeff Petry
Justin Schultz
Nick Schultz
Ladislav Smid
Theo Peckham
Ryan Whitney

Toronto:
Dion Phaneuf
Carl Gunnarsson
Cody Franson
Mike Kostka
Korbinian Holzer
Mark Fraser
Gardiner/Komi/Liles/Reilly

Ummm, yeah. Despite Komi and Liles consuming a huge amount of cap space and being largely useless, I'd be taking Toronto's D 10 times out of 10 over Edmonton's. It's not even close.

The goaltending:
Edmonton:
Dubnyk - 119GP, 42W, .911, 2.85
Khabibibbublin - who cares, his career's done anyway

Toronto:
Reimer - 83GP, 42W, .913, 2.78
Scribbles - 25GP, 10W, .913, 2.75

Are you telling me you'd rather have Edmonton's goaltending over Toronto's right now? Also please tell me how Reimer is "unproven" and Dubnyk isn't. Same amount of wins in 2/3 the games looks pretty good to me. Plus, he's done it all with that mess of a franchise called the Maple Leafs, right?


Phaneuf - he's overpaid? Maybe. Overrated? I'm not sure what his "rating" is. If you're looking for a defenseman who can hit like a freight train, play 25+ minutes a night, and still finish 12th in the League in scoring, then I'd say he's right about where his "rating" is. If you want to talk about overrated, look no further than superstar-before-he-played-a-game Justin Schultz.

Bottom line is this: if I were given a magic wand with the ability to swap entire franchises between Edmonton and Toronto - meaning ALL players, ALL prospects, everything - I would not do it. Not for a second.

 

[dudius]

If you're looking for a good laugh,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HKhtGbSyUY

 

[Homercidal]

If you're looking for a good laugh,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HKhtGbSyUY

OMG I hope they both received 5 minute majors for delay of game!

 

[paulster2626]

If you're looking for a good laugh,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HKhtGbSyUY

Amazing!

hahaha that's a classic.

 

[MeatyPortion]

I just saw Barry Melrose making fun of that on ESPN.

 

[Goofynewfie]

83 games.......do you know steve masons stats after 83 games? better than Riemers or Dubnyks( with a playoff appearance)
Thank you for posting Dubnyks almost identical stats ( from playing on what we agree is the worse team in the time period) wins don't tell much of the story, the goaltender has no control over how many goals has team scores.
So...equal numbers but on a worse team . were you trying to disprove my point about the goaltending?

 

[paulster2626]

83 games.......do you know steve masons stats after 83 games? better than Riemers or Dubnyks( with a playoff appearance)
Thank you for posting Dubnyks almost identical stats ( from playing on what we agree is the worse team in the time period) wins don't tell much of the story, the goaltender has no control over how many goals has team scores.
So...equal numbers but on a worse team . were you trying to disprove my point about the goaltending?

No, i was pointing out your asinine claim that edmonton is somehow in a better goaltending situation than toronto.

So you'd rather have dubnyk/kahbibulin than reimer/Scrivens. Good luck with that.

And Steve masons stats aren't better than Reimers/Dubnyks after 83 games as far as I can tell. Can you show me? Not that it matters anyway - he's one goalie playing for a franchise that's even worse than the lowly oilers.

 

[Goofynewfie]

I was pointing out that it is to early to say that reimer is the real deal. Not sure exact aftet 83 games but after 63 Mason had 33 wins, 10 shutouts,2.29 gaa,.916%
So yes, I would take Dubnyk, he has been consistent. Reimer has not.

Nobody is arguing that the leafs have a better team RIGHT NOW. Look at the last 10 years and potential for next 10 . Different story

 

[paulster2626]

I was pointing out that it is to early to say that reimer is the real deal. Not sure exact aftet 83 games but after 63 Mason had 33 wins, 10 shutouts,2.29 gaa,.916%
So yes, I would take Dubnyk, he has been consistent. Reimer has not.

Nobody is arguing that the leafs have a better team RIGHT NOW. Look at the last 10 years and potential for next 10 . Different story

 

[paulster2626]

Holy hell Reimer's been good tonight. Kessel also with 3 points so far. 'Overrated' Phaneuf with 23 minutes and 2 assists. NAZEM KADRI with another goal. Yes, he's that good that his name requires all caps, all the time.

Hate to tell the haters (actually I love it), but Toronto is looking more and more like the real deal here. They aren't playing run-and-gun pond hockey like Ron Wilson had them doing last year.

 

[schmoe]

We can only hope that the avalanche beat the hawks to end their nonsense

 

[paulster2626]

Holy smokes, what a story in Chicago. It's like all the Hockey Gods got together and said "Let's do this bitch". Insane how this team just keeps rolling with magic.

 

[day_trippr]

Effin' Hawks are haunted...

Cheers!

 

[MeatyPortion]

Glad the Hawks won but if it hadn't been for Emery that game would've been 6-3 Avs.

 

[urbanmyth]

I wasn't able to catch the game tonight, but glad to see the streak is still alive!

 

[CityOChampBrew]

You got knocked the F out

 

[Bulls Beers]

Wow! As they were carrying him off, his legs were not under him...I guess you gotta protect the chin..Yikes!

 

[paulster2626]

I don't know why people continue to want to fight the Loch Ness Monster.

Here he is laughing at Georges whe he beats the tar out of him:

 

[jtkratzer]

Big match up tonight with Pittsburgh coming to Philly.

 

[jtkratzer]

How about Dan Carcillo's goal last night? Kind of reminds me when I was at Game 3 against the Devils and he scored in OT a few years ago. He scores few goals, but when he does, they're usually meaningful.

Saw the Phillies at 1 and the Flyers playoff game immediately after. Not a bad day of sports.