GlowingApple
Well-Known Member
A little bit ago I brewed my first lager, an Oktoberfest. It tasted amazing! Was the perfect amount of sweetness, mouthfeel, color. The malty aroma was a little low, but otherwise I wouldn't change a thing.
So I decided to enter it in my first competition. Unfortunately the competition was only for American beer styles. I talked to the guy in charge of the competition (we're in the same local homebrew club) and he suggested entering it in a reasonably close category (I decided to go with American Amber Ale); I might not win anything since it won't fit the category properly, but I would get some critique from a certified BJCP judge.
One of the judges (a provisional BJCP judge; just passed the written exam a few days before) gave it a pretty decent review, other than not matching the category. But the certified BJCP judge said the aroma was "musty" and a "wet cardboard" off-flavor dominated the taste. He said the beer might be good if it weren't so oxidized.
I have had an oxidized beer before, so I'm familiar with that wet cardboard taste, but I can't taste any oxidation in this beer, and I can't figure out where I could have oxidized the beer.
Is it possible that the judge is misinterpreting the Oktoberfest-style aroma as musty and flavor as oxidation? Or is he particularly sensitive to tasting oxidation, and if so, where can I improve my process?
Here's my process:
I have no idea where I could have oxidized the beer... I have strong doubts that hot-side aeration is a problem, but the wort was stirred while chilling, and I use a HERMS-setup to recirculate the mash. It was racked to the keg using CO2. When cold-crashing it could have sucked in some air, but it should be minimal, and it seems that many brewers cold-crash without oxidation problems. When bleeding off pressure from over-carbonating it was always under light CO2 pressure so I doubt any oxygen could get in (I never opened the keg cover, just released pressure). It was bottled with a counter-pressure filler and capped with oxygen-absorbing caps.
Any ideas on what I did wrong???
TL;DR: I entered an Oktoberfest in an American-beer competition (as an Amber Ale) and had a certified BJCP judge say the beer smelled musty and tasted like wet cardboard (oxidation). Based on my process I have no idea where I could have gotten oxidation. Wondering if the judge misinterpreted the Oktoberfest-style aroma as musty and flavor as oxidation, or looking for suggestions on how to fix my process!
So I decided to enter it in my first competition. Unfortunately the competition was only for American beer styles. I talked to the guy in charge of the competition (we're in the same local homebrew club) and he suggested entering it in a reasonably close category (I decided to go with American Amber Ale); I might not win anything since it won't fit the category properly, but I would get some critique from a certified BJCP judge.
One of the judges (a provisional BJCP judge; just passed the written exam a few days before) gave it a pretty decent review, other than not matching the category. But the certified BJCP judge said the aroma was "musty" and a "wet cardboard" off-flavor dominated the taste. He said the beer might be good if it weren't so oxidized.
I have had an oxidized beer before, so I'm familiar with that wet cardboard taste, but I can't taste any oxidation in this beer, and I can't figure out where I could have oxidized the beer.
Is it possible that the judge is misinterpreting the Oktoberfest-style aroma as musty and flavor as oxidation? Or is he particularly sensitive to tasting oxidation, and if so, where can I improve my process?
Here's my process:
After chilling the wort (with an immersion chiller and stirring) I transferred it to a sanitized plastic carboy. Yeast was pitched and the wort was aerated with pure oxygen for 30 seconds. A blow-off tube was attached and the carboy was placed in a temperature-controlled refrigerator. Following a quick-lager fermentation profile, after >50% attenuation, the temperature was gradually raised to 68 ˚F for a diacetyl rest. After no diacetyl could be tasted (by heating a sample in a hot water bath), the blow-off tube was removed and replaced with a two-piece (S-style) airlock. The beer was cold crashed and fined using gelatin for 3 days. The beer was then racked to a CO2-flushed keg using CO2 pressure to push the beer. I managed to over-carbonate the beer, and had to bleed off the keg for several days, but eventually got the carbonation just right. About a week before the competition the beer was bottled using a counter-pressure filler, flushing the sanitized bottle with CO2 and filling under CO2 pressure. The bottles were capped with oxygen-absorbing caps.
I have no idea where I could have oxidized the beer... I have strong doubts that hot-side aeration is a problem, but the wort was stirred while chilling, and I use a HERMS-setup to recirculate the mash. It was racked to the keg using CO2. When cold-crashing it could have sucked in some air, but it should be minimal, and it seems that many brewers cold-crash without oxidation problems. When bleeding off pressure from over-carbonating it was always under light CO2 pressure so I doubt any oxygen could get in (I never opened the keg cover, just released pressure). It was bottled with a counter-pressure filler and capped with oxygen-absorbing caps.
Any ideas on what I did wrong???
TL;DR: I entered an Oktoberfest in an American-beer competition (as an Amber Ale) and had a certified BJCP judge say the beer smelled musty and tasted like wet cardboard (oxidation). Based on my process I have no idea where I could have gotten oxidation. Wondering if the judge misinterpreted the Oktoberfest-style aroma as musty and flavor as oxidation, or looking for suggestions on how to fix my process!