English IPA opinion

[johnnyc]

I found a similar recipe in another thread but wanted to get opinions on the hop additions.

Here's what I've got so far, didn't modify the grainbill but I only have Willamette and Fuggle on hand. Think a mixed addition at 15 and 0 is better or all Willamette at one and Fuggle the other?


Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 6.13 gal
Estimated OG: 1.060 SG
Estimated Color: 11.1 SRM
Estimated IBU: 50.1 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 69.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
10 lbs Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 85.91 %
14.4 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 7.73 %
6.4 oz Amber Malt (22.0 SRM) Grain 3.44 %
5.4 oz Wheat Malt, Ger (2.0 SRM) Grain 2.92 %
2.00 oz Fuggles [4.70 %] (60 min) Hops 32.6 IBU
1.00 oz Williamette [5.50 %] (15 min) Hops 9.5 IBU
1.00 oz Fuggles [4.70 %] (15 min) Hops 8.1 IBU
1.00 oz Fuggles [4.70 %] (0 min) Hops -
1.00 oz Williamette [5.50 %] (0 min) Hops -
0.50 oz Burton Water Salts (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
1.00 tbsp PH 5.2 Stabilizer (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
1.00 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
1.00 tsp Yeast Nutrient (Boil 30.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs Thames Valley Ale (Wyeast Labs #1275) [StaYeast-Ale

 

[bradsul]

Willamette is a Fuggles variant so you can mix or not, it won't make much difference.

 

[johnnyc]

In that case has anyone done an all fuggle beer? IPA even?

 

[bradsul]

Absolutely! Fuggles is a fantastic hop. An awesome beer is nothing but fuggles and maris otter to whatever gravity and IBU you want. I like mine at 1.036 and 30IBU. It's a great session beer.

 

[Laughing_Gnome_Invisible]

I did a Fuggle/MO SMaSH a while back. I'm not a fan of SMaSHes, but the distinctive fuggles aroma came through wonderfully. It's a great hop IMO

 

[johnnyc]

My fuggles are a little more fresh so maybe I'll use the willamette for bittering and fuggle for the 2 aroma/flavor additions...slightly higher AA too. Only 52 IBU though. Haven't had a good commercial example of an english IPA but I guess that's middle of the road.

Oh yeah, think I should reserve about an oz from the flavor additions to dry hop w/?

2.00 oz Williamette [5.50 %] (60 min) Hops 39.8 IBU
1.50 oz Fuggles [4.70 %] (15 min) Hops 12.7 IBU
1.50 oz Fuggles [4.70 %] (0 min) Hops -
1.00 oz Fuggles [4.70 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -

Last thing, has anyone tried corn sugar in an english ipa to dry it out? I understand its pretty common in ESBs and bitters.

 

[Laughing_Gnome_Invisible]

Last thing, has anyone tried corn sugar in an english ipa to dry it out? I understand its pretty common in ESBs and bitters.

I would say yes. The only real difference between an English IPA and a special bitter is the hop additions IMO. I use brown sugars in my bitter recipes, but corn sugar will leave no residual flavours. A dryer beer will bring forward the hop flavour.

I could be wrong though!

 

[johnnyc]

So maybe 8oz for a 5 gallon batch?

 

[johnnyc]

no comment?

 

[Laughing_Gnome_Invisible]

no comment?

8 oz is insane for a 5 gal batch of english IPA. It would be an American IPA with English hops. 4 oz will give you an english in 5 gals.

 

[johnnyc]

I just estimated, this is a whole new frontier for me. 4oz it is. But on a side note you prefer brown sugar? I've got both.

 

[Laughing_Gnome_Invisible]

I just estimated, this is a whole new frontier for me. 4oz it is. But on a side note you prefer brown sugar? I've got both.

Demerara would be most in style. I was on a dark brown sugar kick when I had a project based on price and easy availabilty.

 

[johnnyc]

Went w/ brown sugar just because. I had 2.75oz of willamette instead of 2 and just added it all. Bumped the IBUs to 60. Good action a few hours after the 2L starter too.

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
11 lbs Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 85.34 %
14.4 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 6.98 %
6.4 oz Amber Malt (22.0 SRM) Grain 3.10 %
5.4 oz Wheat Malt, Ger (2.0 SRM) Grain 2.64 %
2.75 oz Williamette [4.80 %] (60 min) Hops 45.2 IBU
2.00 oz Fuggles [4.70 %] (15 min) Hops 16.0 IBU
2.00 oz Fuggles [4.70 %] (0 min) Hops -
0.13 oz Burton Water Salts (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
1.00 tbsp PH 5.2 Stabilizer (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
1.00 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
4.0 oz Brown Sugar, Light (8.0 SRM) Sugar 1.94 %
1 Pkgs Thames Valley Ale (Wyeast Labs #1275) [StaYeast-Ale