EBY/BBA Brettanomyces Experiment

[Brewbien]

I was curious if anyone else is participating in the EBY/BBA. I am very excited for this and I thought this would be a good place to discuss our thoughts and finding as we go through the process. It looks like samples will be sent out in August. If you are participating please mention which strains you selected. Here are mine:

EBY001 B. girardin I
EBY002 B. dreifonteinii I
EBY007 B. italiana I
EBY014 B. lostfontain I
EBY015 B. lostfontain II
EBY016 B. lembeek I
EBY017 B. lembeek II
EBY019 B. cucurbita I
EBY020 B. jurassienne I
EBY035 B. cucurbita II
EBY038 B. cantillon VIII
EBY048 B. italiana II

I think I am going to get these Soda Preforms and Rack and store samples at room temp for later use after the experiment per Chad Yacobson's suggestion.

EDIT:

I wanted to post the recipe and experiment for consistency. Correct me if any of this is wrong Kerosin. I think it's important that there is some consistency to get accurate and consistent results.

STARTER:

20g DME in 200mL water per strain
Let brett go for three weeks unstirred
Pitch each strain into a half gallon of wort

RECIPE:

5 gallon Batch Size
60 min boil
1.050 OG
25 IBU

5.5lb Pilsner malt
1.0lb Munich malt
2.0lb Wheat malt
6.0oz Acid malt

1oz Styrian Goldings (60min)
1oz Saaz (10 min)

Mash: 10.4 L (2.75 gal), sparge: 19.8 L (5.2 gal) @78°C (172°F)
Rest: Mash in @67°C (152°F), 60min @67°C (152°F), sparge at 74°C (165.2°F)

Fermentation: Oxygenate your wort as normal

Primary 1-31 days at around 20°C (68°F) (Depending on strain performance)

Secondary 1-31 days (Depending on strain performance)

Maturation: Carbonation (CO2 vol) 2

 

[kerosin]

Brewbien, thanks for posting our experiment.

Cheers, Sam (aka eurekabrewing)

 

[Brewbien]

Brewbien, thanks for posting our experiment.

Cheers, Sam (aka eurekabrewing)

No problem. I was kind of weary to do so at first because I didn't know if you guys would mind but I'm very excited about the experiment and I figured this would be a really good place to see notes of other people in the experiment as well as some real time results. Seems like we still know so little about Brett when compared to Sacc.

Cheers!

 

[theveganbrewer]

Time to get another barrel Brewbien! Thanks for the hot tip. I got 12 strains: 1,2,5,8,12,14,15,19,20,21,35,38

 

[Coff]

I grabbed 4 strains the other day, I'll update which ones particularly later on.

Good idea on the thread.

 

[brewguyver]

Would love to get involved. A engineering friend and I are working with a microbiologist on rapid differentiation/identification of yeast types, and would love to test out some new bugs.

Is it still possible to sign up?

 

[Brewbien]

Would love to get involved. A engineering friend and I are working with a microbiologist on rapid differentiation/identification of yeast types, and would love to test out some new bugs.

Is it still possible to sign up?

I believe so. Click the EBY link on my first post and follow the directions....

Cheers!

 

[lawbadger]

Is there a minimum number of strains you want participants to sign up for or would signing up for only one variety work?

 

[Bensiff]

This is interesting, I might jump in in the future when the new brewery is up and running...until then my garage is nothing but a mess of steel waiting to be welded.

 

[Brewbien]

Is there a minimum number of strains you want participants to sign up for or would signing up for only one variety work?

As long as you are willing to participate in the experiment, 1 is fine as far as I can tell.

 

[lawbadger]

As long as you are willing to participate in the experiment, 1 is fine as far as I can tell.

I actually ended up going back to update my info to add an additional strain.

 

[Brewbien]

I actually ended up going back to update my info to add an additional strain.

Which ones did you get?

 

[lawbadger]

Which ones did you get?

I went for EBY021 B. bruery I and EBY035 B. cucurbita II. I'm a fan of The Bruery and Jolly Pumpkin. I was hoping to snag the other Jolly Pumpkin strain (EBY019 B. cucurbita I), but they were all spoken for.

 

[kerosin]

I went for EBY021 B. bruery I and EBY035 B. cucurbita II. I'm a fan of The Bruery and Jolly Pumpkin. I was hoping to snag the other Jolly Pumpkin strain (EBY019 B. cucurbita I), but they were all spoken for.

@lawbadger: May I ask you to send me an email to contacteurekabrewing(at)gmail.com with your shipping address as mentioned in the post to make your paticipation official?

Is there a minimum number of strains you want participants to sign up for or would signing up for only one variety work?

The minimum number of strains is one. And you can choose as many strains as you like. Please only choose strains you are going to test.

If someone would like to test all the twenty yeast strains for the experiment (maybe as a homebrew club?), contact me directly (contacteurekabrewing(at)gmail.com). I have set some samples aside for such cases.

Registration is open until the 11th of August 2013.

Cheers and thanks to all the numerous participants,
Samuel

 

[ryanhope]

I just signed up for this project. Selected 14 strains since have a few other members of my homebrew club helping with this. Gonna do a 10gal batch. I really cant wait to hear everyones reports on these yeasts. Such an awesome opportunity here.

Thanks Sam!

 

[Brewbien]

I went for EBY021 B. bruery I and EBY035 B. cucurbita II. I'm a fan of The Bruery and Jolly Pumpkin. I was hoping to snag the other Jolly Pumpkin strain (EBY019 B. cucurbita I), but they were all spoken for.

After having Sour In The Rye and Bois from The Bruery this weekend, both of which were phenomenal, I wish I would have picked the Bruery strain.

 

[kerosin]

After having Sour In The Rye and Bois from The Bruery this weekend, both of which were phenomenal, I wish I would have picked the Bruery strain.

B. bruery I is isolated from Saison de Rue and hence more a Saison Brett I guess.

Unfortunately, I can't get my hands on any sours from The Bruery here. Actually no real US sour beers at all (with the exception of Jolly Pumpkins and Jester King). So no chance for me to get any bugs from such beers.

If anyone participating in the experiment willing to send me some bugs or dregs, gets the Brett strains for free (I will cover the shipping costs myself and even send you some tubes with the Brett strains for returning them to me).

Cheers, Sam

 

[ryanhope]

If anyone participating in the experiment willing to send me some bugs or dregs, gets the Brett strains for free (I will cover the shipping costs myself and even send you some tubes with the Brett strains for returning them to me).

Im brewing a sour now that was fermented with the dregs from Monks Cafe Flanders Red. I didnt save those dregs but I could get more. In my fridge I have the dregs from Goose Island Juliet and the brett from one of the Anchorage brett beers. I can also get my hands on more Saison de Rue.

 

[kerosin]

Im brewing a sour now that was fermented with the dregs from Monks Cafe Flanders Red. I didnt save those dregs but I could get more. In my fridge I have the dregs from Goose Island Juliet and the brett from one of the Anchorage brett beers. I can also get my hands on more Saison de Rue.

Would you send me dregs of the Goose Island and the Anchorage one? Never tried any Goose Island nor Anchorage beers before. Don't worry about the Saison de Rue. I can get this one myself. And don't worry about the Monks Cafe Flanders Red either. I don't want to encourage you to drink amazing beer just because of me

 

[ryanhope]

Would you send me dregs of the Goose Island and the Anchorage one? Never tried any Goose Island nor Anchorage beers before. Don't worry about the Saison de Rue. I can get this one myself. And don't worry about the Monks Cafe Flanders Red either. I don't want to encourage you to drink amazing beer just because of me

Sure I could do that, I will need to step them up a little first. Also, I am going to be in Berlin from the 29th to the 5th. Not sure if that will help with the exchange at all.

 

[ChugachBrewing]

Just signed up. Ka-boom!

 

[Brewbien]

Just signed up. Ka-boom!

Which strains?

 

[ryanhope]

Sure I could do that, I will need to step them up a little first. Also, I am going to be in Berlin from the 29th to the 5th. Not sure if that will help with the exchange at all.

The bugs in GI Juliet I believe are from East Coast Yeast, not sure what they use in their other beers. But I can get other GI samples if you want. As long as I am going to be sending you stuff let me know if there is anything else you want me to try and grab.

 

[milldoggy]

Just signed up for cant vi and lambeek II. Would love to try some of the others, but I was too late. Maybe I can convince some club members to join and we can get a 20 pack.

 

[Brewbien]

Just signed up for cant vi and lambeek II. Would love to try some of the others, but I was too late. Maybe I can convince some club members to join and we can get a 20 pack.

I'm hoping to get the ones I didn't choose by trading people in this thread.

 

[Brewbien]

B. bruery I is isolated from Saison de Rue and hence more a Saison Brett I guess.

Unfortunately, I can't get my hands on any sours from The Bruery here. Actually no real US sour beers at all (with the exception of Jolly Pumpkins and Jester King). So no chance for me to get any bugs from such beers.

If anyone participating in the experiment willing to send me some bugs or dregs, gets the Brett strains for free (I will cover the shipping costs myself and even send you some tubes with the Brett strains for returning them to me).

Cheers, Sam

I can send you some dregs from a bottle of Sahati from The Ale Apothecary. If you are unfamiliar with them, they are a small brewery in Bend, OR that all the Portland beer nerds are going nuts for right now. Everything is open fermented in barrels with wild Brett and a house lacto strain. For Sahati they use a finnish kuurna for lautering, which is basically a hollowed log that they fill with spruce that works as a natural filter for the wort.

 

[milldoggy]

I could send the dregs from brux and a ecy 20 sour I made.

 

[ryanhope]

I could send the dregs from brux and a ecy 20 sour I made.

Heh, I have a saison going now with ECY14 and the dregs from Brux.

 

[brewguyver]

B. bruery I is isolated from Saison de Rue and hence more a Saison Brett I guess.

Unfortunately, I can't get my hands on any sours from The Bruery here. Actually no real US sour beers at all (with the exception of Jolly Pumpkins and Jester King). So no chance for me to get any bugs from such beers.

If anyone participating in the experiment willing to send me some bugs or dregs, gets the Brett strains for free (I will cover the shipping costs myself and even send you some tubes with the Brett strains for returning them to me).

Cheers, Sam

Figures - I just drank two bruery bottles at a buddies house and didn't grab them.

The beer store where I'm working has a few of the Bruery beers as well as some Americanized sours and lambics. I'll see what they have a good stock of and take some pictures. After that, you let me know what you want I'll pick them up and send you the dregs.

For those of you in the Raleigh area, check out "tasty beverage." Good selection, and about 20% cheaper than the places I've been in Pitt and Ohio.

 

[gwood]

Just signed up: EBY08, EBY10, EBY11, EBY12, and EBY 13. As of a few minutes ago it appears that 8, 11, and 13 are the last available.

I'd be willing to trade with folks after the test batch is done.