Dry hop limits?

[aussie brewer]

Hi, how far can you push the dry hop quantity until you start to get undesirable flavours? im currently doing about 75g in a 25L batch. cheers brewers!

 

[Northern_Brewer]

It depends on the variety and your process. Lafontaine & Shellhammer found that going above 8g/l with Cascade in their experimental system led to excessive grassy flavours (discussed eg here on the main NEIPA thread), anecdotally the sweet spot for homebrewers in that thread with more modern varieties seems to be somewhere around 12-15g/l, Cloudwater (one-time #2 brewery in the world according to Ratebeer) are doing 24g/l on a lot of their DIPAs but have all the toys like centrifuges to keep them clean.

New products like Incognito aim to help boost hop flavour without off-flavours. And keep contact times short - 24-48h is enough to transfer most of the good stuff. This kind of stuff gets discussed a lot in the main NEIPA thread linked above, you're probably best off there.

 

[aussie brewer]

It depends on the variety and your process. Lafontaine & Shellhammer found that going above 8g/l with Cascade in their experimental system led to excessive grassy flavours (discussed eg here on the main NEIPA thread), anecdotally the sweet spot for homebrewers in that thread with more modern varieties seems to be somewhere around 12-15g/l, Cloudwater (one-time #2 brewery in the world according to Ratebeer) are doing 24g/l on a lot of their DIPAs but have all the toys like centrifuges to keep them clean.

New products like Incognito aim to help boost hop flavour without off-flavours. And keep contact times short - 24-48h is enough to transfer most of the good stuff. This kind of stuff gets discussed a lot in the main NEIPA thread linked above, you're probably best off there.

Thanks for the great info, exactly what i was after!

 

[Pkrd]

Use the 5/10/15g rule

5gm/l in Pales, 10 in IPAs, 15 in DIPAs.

 

[aussie brewer]

Use the 5/10/15g rule

5gm/l in Pales, 10 in IPAs, 15 in DIPAs.

cheers Pkrd,ive got a 23L batch of a mosaic pale ale brewing at the moment, ill go for 5g/L

 

[CascadesBrewer]

Use the 5/10/15g rule

5gm/l in Pales, 10 in IPAs, 15 in DIPAs.

Hmmm...so that would be (in measurements I can relate to):

• 0.67 oz per gal for Pale Ale
• 1.34 oz per gal for IPA
• 2.01 oz per gal for DIPA

I have gradually raised my dry hop amounts of the years, but these days my general target is around:

• 0.4 oz per gal for Pale Ale [3 g/l]
• 0.8 oz per gal for IPA (American West Coast IPA) [6 g/l]
• 1.2 oz per gal for NEIPA (I don't really brew DIPAs) [9 g/l]

I tend to use a slightly higher rate for late kettle additions (10 min, 0 min, or whirlpool) but I have seen more recipes lately that use significantly more hops for dry hop additions than late kettle, so I might get around to trying that out. I have been pretty happy with the hop character I get in an NEIPA with 6 oz of dry hops in a 5 gal batch, but maybe one day I will try more.