Dry-Hemping

[Truble]

In the past I have made this by preparing the 2 major components separately, and mixing them in my bloodstream.

Did I say me? I meant someone other than me.

 

[revrand65]

Sorry to break the news butn the chemicals in ganja have to be heated to a temp of at least 160 degrees to cause the chemical reaction .

 

[dougjones31]

Yes to eat marijuana, you must heat it to activate the cannabanoids.

But if you soak it in alcohol and drink it it does not need to be heated.....wonder why????

 

[Mike-H]

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[johnoswald]

When I lived in Switzerland a few years ago (where the police look the other way to homegrown cannabis), a native Swiss, home brewing friend of mine would periodically make some "weed beer" substituting his home grown cannabis for hops. His hopped beers were better. But interestingly, his beer was naturally low in THC even though he added it during the boil. The low THC comes from the fact that weed grown in the northern latitudes doesn't yield high levels of THC from the reduced sunlight (hence the police's attitude). With following generations, the plants produce even less. So his "weed beer" had only the taste of cannabis without the THC high. And more importantly since he is a high level employee at a chemical company, he too doesn't have to worry about the ever present surprise request to "pee in the cup please".

 

[Desert_Sky]

Yes to eat marijuana, you must heat it to activate the cannabanoids.

negative


You can just pop a couple buds in your mouth and chew away. Or so Ive heard.......

 

[Hopfan]

Yes to eat marijuana, you must heat it to activate the cannabanoids.

But if you soak it in alcohol and drink it it does not need to be heated.....wonder why????

No need to heat. Your saliva & stomach acid take care of removing the non soluble THC and making it available to your blood/brain barrier. Or, so I've heard.

 

[rdwj]

So his "weed beer" had only the taste of cannabis without the THC high.

All the taste of weed with none of the effects?

Hope he isn't trying to sell it - lol

 

[RichBrewer]

I'm staying away from you folks! I could lose my job!

 

[humboldthomebrew]

How would you go about using alcohol to remove the thc, but usuing the beer's alcohol, not vodka. How could you get the pot to the beer, at a time when there was actual alcohol in it?

 

[Pumbaa]

I suppose you could go a few different routes . . . soaking it in a relatively small volume of vodka to sanatize it then possibly throwing it in the fermentor after the main fermentation was complete.

Beats the hell out me why you would want to . . . but then again my first go around with weed will be in about 25 years and then just to give the City "the bird".

 

[todd_k]

Have you ever tried Hemp'n Ale? It came out when I was in college during a fad that unfortunately included another beer called Tequiza. It just wasn't very good. Why do you want to make weed beer anyway? Are you unhappy with the results of drinking plain ol' beer and then smoking the pot?

 

[Carne de Perro]

The low THC comes from the fact that weed grown in the northern latitudes doesn't yield high levels of THC from the reduced sunlight.

This may be true in Europe, but it's not the case everywhere. Alaskan summers with 20 hour daylight will produce a very potent "crop" indeed. In the Anchorage/Mat-Su bouro they call it "Matanuska Thunder".

A local company decided to have fun with it and sold locally grown catnip under the same monicker. Wish I had a bag to show the folks down here in the lower-48.

 

[Klainmeister]

Strangely enough, some of my friends were throwing around this idea. Now, from my research, the amount of pot should be somewhat in ratio with the amount of alcohol. So a barleywine can handle upwards of 1.5oz of herb while a weak ale could only handle a meer .25oz. So, theoretically this batch of Dead Guy that i am making currently - aiming for a solid 8% could handle .5oz next week. I mean, if i felt like being a law-breaking citizen...






(I'll post results in 3 weeks)

 

[BrewmanBeing]

THC is not water soluable. You must infuse it into High Gran spirits or use it in the distillation process of the spirits itself....COUGH... not that Id know or anything..COUGH

Neither is Lupulin in hops. Apparently extended boiling isomerizes the hop oils, allowing them to dissolve in water. Perhaps the same process would work for THC? Also, I have heard that isomerized THC is far more potent.

 

[humboldthomebrew]

[Originally Posted by johnoswald
The low THC comes from the fact that weed grown in the northern latitudes doesn't yield high levels of THC from the reduced sunlight.

Hey Johnswald, hate to break you the bad news, but that isnt true at all. I live in Humboldt county in California, where it could be said we grow some of the best chronic herb in the counrty, maybe even the whole world. And its becuase of the high amounts of humidity in the air from coastal water vapor and extensive rainfall (hence called, "temperate rainforest" climate) and extended sunlight periods during grow season. The same goes for the rest of Northern California, Oregon, Parts of Washington, and like mentioned earlier, even as far as alaska, very dank chronic can be cultivated. The result is perfectly crystallized nuggets of very armoatic, flavor, and intoxicating pot, filled with THC tricomes that can be prefect for your beer, for not only an extra high given from the pot, but also a great aroma as well as pungent flavor almost similar to hops, as long a chlorophyll and other non-desirable are removed first by leeching overnight in water. I have had actually great-tasting, and definetly great-feel cannabis beer, homebrewed up here in North Cal. I definetly reccomend trying to make a batch, but use as much and as high quality herb as you can get!

 

[derzok]

I don't want to come off as a know it all, but I just read everyone's posts and figured that I'd mention a few things I had picked up in my experience.

THC is indeed soluble in water - 2.8 mg/L (23 °C), though you won't be able to extract it in the water because it is a non-polar fatty acid. In theory, you could extract it with water, but that would be stupid because you're already using alcohol in your brewing process and alcohol binds to fatty acids quite well. The only methods that I have seen here that would work are: A) Extracting the THC in grain alcohol and then adding it to the brew before bottling or B) Soaking the cannabis in melted butter which you then add to the brew.

To clear up some misconceptions:

THC can be bound to alcohols and oils. If it is binding to an alcohol it must be soaked with it for a long period of time (usually a day or two). Heat is not required for this. When binding to other lipids one must use heat to speed up the process. Too much heat will destroy the chemical. With too little heat the THC will not be released from the plant matter and it will not bind to the butter/oil.

And yes, you can just eat the plant matter but it would be somewhat of a waste. You would feel the effects much stronger if you cooked with the same amount.

Anyway, if you like the taste of the plant, you can flavor it two ways. I've found that boiling shake (the throw-away parts of the plant) in with the hops works the best. I've not tried it dry hopping, but I assume it would work just as well.

 

[EvilTOJ]

Derzok, wouldn't the butter give the beer a strong diacetyl taste?

 

[Carne de Perro]

Why specificly butter? Wouldn't any vegetable oil work just as well?

In theory.

 

[Brewing Clamper]

LOL! Ya'll got WAY too much time on your hands!

 

[Carne de Perro]

LOL! Ya'll got WAY too much time on your hands!

Couldn't that be said of anyone who spends time on internet forums on a semi regular basis?

 

[kirok1999]

Here's the actual recipe found on Catsmeow. As an avid consumer of "herbal hops substitute", I hate to think how much this recipe will cost. In 1975 it would have cost $160 for the "hops substitute". Anyone want to brew this, I'll gladly chip in for all other expenses.

Brain Death Barleywine

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Classification: barleywine, extract
Source: Chuck Cox (uunet!bose!synchro!chuck)


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Ingredients:
17-1/2 pounds, pale dry extract
3 pounds, crystal malt
1-1/2 pounds, flaked barley
1-1/2 pounds, wheat malt
1 teaspoon, gypsum
1 teaspoon, Irish moss
68 HBUs, Chinook hops (boil)
20 HBUs, Cascade hops (boil)
2-1/2 ounces, Goldings hops (finish)
10 grams, Chinook hops (dry hop)
20 grams, Kent Goldings hops (dry hop)
50 grams, Cascade hops (dry hop)
Sierra Nevada ale yeast
1/2 - 1 pound, Herbal hops substitute
Procedure:
This recipe makes 5 gallons of full-strength barleywine plus 4 gallons half strength. Follow normal procedures, but brew in a 7-gallon kettle and then divide the wort into separate fermenters. The special hops substitute is a mix of hops repeatedly soaked and sparged in lukewarm water for at least 4 hours to eliminate water-soluble off-flavors. Special hops are added to the secondary fermenter about 1 week before kegging. Quantity used depends on quality of herbs/hops.

 

[kirok1999]

BTW....THC is NOT a narcotic. The government just classifies it as such to up the penalties. Thank you, Big Brother, for saving me from myself!! How could I possible exist without your gentle, guiding hand.......up my ass!

 

[Klainmeister]

How could I possible exist without your gentle, guiding hand.......up my ass!

Damn dude, where do you live, I dont want to mess with those cops...

 

[Ruy Lopez]

Seems like a waste of some good bud to me. Enjoy it using traditional means, THEN have a beer.

 

[wisconsinbrewer]

if i were to put some dope in i'd boil it with the wort so the thc can attach itself to the sugars. and i'd use some good dope too, nonde of that beany ****. but thats just me.

 

[Klainmeister]

THC is soluble in alcohol and not in water/sugar water. The boil would actually destroy the THC molecules and you're left with nichts. That's why you have to dry hop it after primary fermentation so there is alcohol to bond to.

 

[homebrewer_99]

Take a look here:

http://cgi.ebay.de/Hanfbier-TURN-Hanf-Bier-Cannabis-Hemp-Beer-low-THC_W0QQitemZ280040587816QQihZ018QQcategoryZ70573QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[Klainmeister]

...scheisse Mann. Verueckt!

 

[Denny's Evil Concoctions]

In theory you could get the thc into your beer during the boil. Isomorization of the oils, like hops.