Double IPA flavor/dry hop question.

[aqualung23]

Doing a double IPA and looking for some advice. Right now I have the recipe with an ounce of centennial at 15, 10, 5, and flameout. Then dry hopping with another 4 oz. Shooting for and OG around 1.088 and an ABV around 8.9.

Thinking of adding another oz. Of centennial at flameout and/or possibly lowering the dry hop amount. IBUs will actually be fairly low for a double, around 70. But looking to make up for this with lots of flavor and dry hops. Any advice?

 

[cyanmonkey]

What's your malt bill?

 

[jammin]

My advice would be to shift the 15 and 10 to zero if you're limited on hops. You NEED big flame out hit to carry the flavor of an IPA, especially a big one.

I would also up your IBU's at least slightly. With a SG of 1.088 and ABV of 8.9% - that leaves your finishing gravity at 1.020. Ill get crucified for this, but honestly I drain pour that beer - way too sweet for me.

This leads me to believe you are either mashing really high, using a low attenuating yeast or using lots of crystal malt - all which are "no-no's" for IPA's/IIPA's

Finally, 4oz of Centennial is a bit much. Not the amount of dry hops, but the amount of Cent. That hop can be a little abrasive when used in high quantity

^post your malt bill/recipe so we can butcher it for you haha


good luck in any case

 

[cyanmonkey]

Just trying to steal it.

 

[aqualung23]

A little tedious to copy the whole recipe over from beer smith, but I'm using 15 pounds of American 2 row with 2 pounds of Vienna and some crystal and honey malt (8 oz each). Also using Warrior at 60 for the IBUs and going for an east coast style malty DIPA.

 

[aqualung23]

Also, no offense Jammin, but if you would dump a 1.020 beer, then our tastes are waaay off from one another, and you just wouldn't like the type of beer I'm shooting for. I want a good maltysweetness in a DIPA to balance out the hops.

 

[geoffey]

Also, no offense Jammin, but if you would dump a 1.020 beer, then our tastes are waaay off from one another, and you just wouldn't like the type of beer I'm shooting for. I want a good maltysweetness in a DIPA to balance out the hops.

I'm not sure IIPA's work at all when they are malty and sweet. But to each their own I guess. All commercial IIPAs I've had or seen are all on the dry side, and I think for good reason.

 

[aqualung23]

I'm not sure IIPA's work at all when they are malty and sweet. But to each their own I guess. All commercial IIPAs I've had or seen are all on the dry side, and I think for good reason.

Going for something along the lines of a hopslam but with all centennial. Hopslam is about 1.021 FG if I'm not mistaken. I'm sure dogfish 90 has a fairly high FG as well. Again I'm not going for a dry west coast style at all.

 

[geoffey]

Going for something along the lines of a hopslam but with all centennial. Hopslam is about 1.021 FG if I'm not mistaken. I'm sure dogfish 90 has a fairly high FG as well. Again I'm not going for a dry west coast style at all.

Ok, that's interesting to me. DFH 60 and 90 are both beers I don't enjoy, so this helps me in clarifying why. I will keep that in mind when hopslam hits the shelves here too.

Absolutely to each their own. I'd also suggest perhaps using a blend of hops instead of just centennial. In those amounts I'd guess that it would come across as flat, lacking "depth". There's lots of other aroma hops to choose from. Maybe choose one or two others in addition to centennial. Many of hype best commercial IPAs and IIPAs use more than one hop type.

Go for it and please post your results here!

 

[aqualung23]

I am going to throw in a little sugar to dry it out a little more. Certainly don't want it to be cloying, and I've moved one of the dry hop ounces to flameout. Two reasons I'm going with all centennial are a.) I'm still learning so Want to really taste pure centennial in a DIPA, and b.) founders centennial in addiction to hopslam is the inspiration for this beer. Also probably my favorite ipa, and another that's pretty sweet and malty. Must be something in my east coast blood, lol!

 

[aqualung23]

Thanks for the advice btw everyone.