does star san make beer taste nasty

[corrales_305]

i know that star san is a no rinse sanitiser....with that said i tasted a small bit on my tougue and it taste bitter and nasty.. wont that make my beer taste the same way when i dont rinse frementer,secoundary ferm,thermomiter, the keg ,siphone hose,etc, and all that....when you add all that up you probably get a couple of oz. of star san directly in the beer from the bigining to end of beer the makeing process.

 

[NordeastBrewer77]

a small amount of star san won't hurt the flavor of your beer.... if it did, we'd all be in trouble.
there's actually some thought that a small amount of star san in a fermenter/bottle will break down and the yeast will use it as nutrient. don't know if that's true, but i do know not to fear the foam.

 

[DJG42]

did you taste it at full strength right out of the bottle? or diluted per the directions?

I've been using StarSan forever and have never had any ill effects to my beers. Don't fear the foam..

 

[wedge421]

Star san when diluted with water will not contribute any off flavors to beer at all.

 

[corrales_305]

diluted when i tasted it......i say this because i brewed an american amber ale and its a little on the bitter side and i dont know why... i make i from one of those morebeer kits also this is my first brew im not sure if its sopposed to be this bitter but that bitter after taste kind of taste like the starsan bitter after taste

 

[mdineenwob]

diluted when i tasted it......i say this because i brewed an american amber ale and its a little on the bitter side and i dont know why... i make i from one of those morebeer kits also this is my first brew im not sure if its sopposed to be this bitter but that bitter after taste kind of taste like the starsan bitter after taste

Buy a comparable commercial brew. That'll give you a good reference point to what yours should taste like.

 

[NordeastBrewer77]

diluted when i tasted it......i say this because i brewed an american amber ale and its a little on the bitter side and i dont know why... i make i from one of those morebeer kits also this is my first brew im not sure if its sopposed to be this bitter but that bitter after taste kind of taste like the starsan bitter after taste

the bitterness isn't from star san.
how long is the beer that tasted bitter been in bottles?

 

[GarageDweller]

don't fear the foam dude. i think if anything it will make your beer taste better by keeping anything nasty out. unless you pour a couple oz's of undiluted star san directly into your beer it shouldn't produce any funky flavors. maybe the beer just needs to condition longer to get the flavor where you want it.

 

[corrales_305]

one week primary 2 weeks secoundary 2 day in keg

 

[solbes]

Diluted Star San is a phoshoric acid solution at a pH of less than 3. When the small amount of acid is diluted by the beer it will be tasteless. Remember Coca-cola uses a fair amount of phosphoric acid to add tartness.

 

[NordeastBrewer77]

one week primary 2 weeks secoundary 2 day in keg

i'd guess the bitterness is a green beer flavor. give it some time in the keg and it should go away.

 

[Brewnoob1]

Bitter...couldn't it be from carbonic bite I believe is the term from force carbing? Just another thought...but it's not from the Star San.

 

[NordeastBrewer77]

Bitter...couldn't it be from carbonic bite I believe is the term from force carbing? Just another thought...but it's not from the Star San.

that too, he is carbing in the keg.

 

[GarageDweller]

I 2nd what Nordeast said. I try to let my brews sit under pressure in the keg for 2 weeks and its usually awesome by then. Anytime before 5 days and it just doesn't seem to taste right. Hopefully the flavor improves after a little more time under pressure. Also, after the beer has set for a while the first 4oz or so you pour off will have a lot of sediment in it. After that you should be pouring clear. hth
:rockin:

 

[Homercidal]

I've tasted Starsan many times and although I won't say it tastes great, it's more of a tart flavor than bitter IMO. And remember that it's WAY more diluted when used properly and after adding the beer, and also the yeast will eat it after you dilute it in beer.

If you just can't stand the idea of foam, they make a non-foaming version for CIP applications. That way you can sanitize, and then drain and let it drip out. No foam to stay in the fermenter/bottles. I don't worry about it.

 

[Revvy]

I think a little logic needs to be had in situations like this...If starsan contributed off flavor to beer, why would anyone we be using it?

 

[NordeastBrewer77]

I think a little logic needs to be had in situations like this...If starsan contributed off flavor to beer, why would anyone we be using it?

exactly

 

[GASoline71]

I would think that the Iodine I used to use would give more of an off flavor than Star San... I used to rinse the hell out of my bottles, carboys, and equipment because I hated that Iodine "scent" that was on there.

Now with the Star San... me no worry.

Gary

 

[hamiltont]

Definitely green beer, but if it was fermented a bit too warn he could be noticing a touch of Fusel Alcohol too???

 

[Brewnoob1]

Does anyone find themselves foaming up their starsan just a bit more than normal because you are SO in love with the foam when using it and seeing your beer immerse itself in it? I picture a bubble bath for my beer....can't be a bad thing






or is that just me? lol

 

[Zak]

I would think that the Iodine I used to use would give more of an off flavor than Star San... I used to rinse the hell out of my bottles, carboys, and equipment because I hated that Iodine "scent" that was on there.

Now with the Star San... me no worry.

Gary

That was my concern when I opened my first bottle from my first batch last night. I was wondering if the scent was possibly related to the off flavor I was noticing or if it was just still green.

 

[fletchsj]

I had a liter of starsan suck through my airlock once and into my beer when I forgot to remove my blow off when cold crashing... No off flavors. I think the unwanted flavor is for some other reason.

 

[NordeastBrewer77]

Does anyone find themselves foaming up their starsan just a bit more than normal because you are SO in love with the foam when using it and seeing your beer immerse itself in it? I picture a bubble bath for my beer....can't be a bad thing






or is that just me? lol

i thought i was the only one!

 

[Brewnoob1]

i thought i was the only one!

WOOHOO! Not the only one then that loves the foam that much!

 

[Rowdy]

the only way i can see starsan contributing to an off flavor is by not using it.

 

[GASoline71]

Does anyone find themselves foaming up their starsan just a bit more than normal because you are SO in love with the foam when using it and seeing your beer immerse itself in it? I picture a bubble bath for my beer....can't be a bad thing






or is that just me? lol

The father and son team that run the LHBS place that I go to said basically the same thing. They LOVE the foam. He told me right off that Star San was the way to go... and that the foam was a very, very, very good thing.

Gary

 

[corrales_305]

so should i leave it in the keg to condition for a couple of weeks more?..also someone mentioned "fusel alcohol"......and the word "warn" which i think they meant "warm"........can 74 degree temp while in primary fermenter using safale 05 cause the beer to be bitter and this "fusel alcohol" ?......also what is fusel alcohol...it sound bad i guess. will this type of alcohol make use sick if u drink the beer? i ask because after having a glass of the beer i kind felt a little sick to my stomach ....u know .......like when you drink some steel reserve 211 malt licour nasty beer.

 

[DeutscheMaster]

so should i leave it in the keg to condition for a couple of weeks more?

Yes, beer + time = delicious.

 

[solbes]

so can 74 degree temp while in primary fermenter using safale 05 cause the beer to be bitter and this "fusel alcohol" ?......also what is fusel alcohol...it sound bad i guess. will this type of alcohol make use sick if u drink the beer? i ask because after having a glass of the beer i kind felt a little sick to my stomach ....u know .......like when you drink some steel reserve 211 malt licour nasty beer.

Yes you can easily get fusel alcohols at fermentation temps of 74, especially during the first 24-48 hours. Cool your wort into the mid 60's for most yeast strains before pitching. Usually it's safe to let temps rise a bit after the first couple of days. In Miami you might be looking at a swamp cooler for the warmer days.

They should not make you sick, but are theorized to cause headaches. So not a good thing.

 

[corrales_305]

Man that sucks!!!!!!i guess after you get these alcohols there is no removing them from the beer even if you let the beer sit for a while ??so should i just trash the beer or let it sit for a couple of weeks and see if it improves?