Did someone/something sh!t in my beer?

[Pommy]

So i have tried a coopers mexican cerveza with the kit yeast and from the first couple of days it has had a sulphur like smell. Tbh it smells like diarrhea or baby poop and after a week I tasted it and it tastes quite horrid Im going to be patient with it and get it bottled tomorrow night and give it a full month to see if it comes right, what do you think of my chances.

Whatever happens after a month if it still smells and tastes like @$$ ill drink a pint of it to teach me the lesson that whatever I did wrong I should never do again! :rockin:

 

[scrambledegg81]

Guarantee the first thing the regulars on here will ask about is sanitation. Probably the most important part of proper brewing. Also what was the recipe, yeast & procedure that you used?

 

[Pommy]

it was just the coopers cerveza kit used with coopers brewing sugar and the yeast that came with the kit, just the recommended cheap brew from coopers I am pretty anal about sanitation and there is certainly no physical signs (that i can see) of infection.

 

[triggerman72]

...I am pretty anal about sanitation...

Does that mean everything was very sanitized, or completely not sanitized?

The next thing folks will tell you is to have patience.

have patience

have patience

(you get the idea)

 

[JoMarky]

does that kit come with lager yeast? alot of lager yeast give off sulfur (rotten eggs) which eventually gets cleaned up

 

[EoinMag]

I've always heard this kit produces crappy results, but hey it's trying to emulate crappy beer.....

 

[shortyjacobs]

it smells like diarrhea or baby poop

I am pretty anal about sanitation.

I've always heard this kit produces crappy results,

So. Many. Jokes.




Sucks man, let it age out a bit, then try again!

 

[IrregularPulse]

So it's only been fermenting for one week? Don't bottle it yet regardless of what your kit instructions say. Never listen to kit Instructions. Let it sit in primary another week or 2.

 

[broadbill]

does that kit come with lager yeast? alot of lager yeast give off sulfur (rotten eggs) which eventually gets cleaned up

Especially if that lager yeast is fermenting at ale fermentation temps (or higher).

 

[Shooter]

I've always heard this kit produces crappy results, but hey it's trying to emulate crappy beer.....

Not true, I've brewed this exact Coopers kit. Yes, GASP, I sometimes still brew canned kits!! I used the additional fermentables kit that came from Austin Home Brew, which contains about a pound each of dry malt extract and, OMG, corn sugar. I believe it also contains a small amount of malto-dextrin. Quite honestly, it isn't half bad. It certainly was a quick brewday compared to steeping and doing a full 60 minute boil.

To the OP, give it time. Despite it being a quick brewday, I still let my kit sit in the primary fermenter for three weeks before even thinking of bottling it and then I gave it another three weeks to carbonate. I used the Coopers yeast, but my can was a long way from being out of date, and didn't have any problems.

 

[MMW]

does that kit come with lager yeast? alot of lager yeast give off sulfur (rotten eggs) which eventually gets cleaned up

Especially if that lager yeast is fermenting at ale fermentation temps (or higher).

My first thought as well. What's the yeast and the temp?

 

[DrJekyll-HomeBrew]

never used coopers.. brewers best all the way

 

[Clayton]

that stink will come out your beer as it ages, unless you trap it in the bottle
your lager need to age, you did fermentit it at the right temps right?
if you did not its not the end of the world it just will taste a more aley.

if you have not done so already move that carboy in to a cooler drop the temp to the 38 to 40 temp range and just walk away for aleast 2 more weeks 3 would be better.
Then after that , pull it out and let it warm up to 68-72 for 24 hrs this will let thae last of the sulfer dispate and give the yeast time to clean up some of the fermentaion by products that would flaw your beer. after that back in the cooler but this time turn it way down chill that beer to 26-28 it will not freeze at that temp ( i just cold crashed my octoberfest 2 weeks ago and it sat at 24 for a week did not freeze) this is called a cold crash let the beer sit as at this low temp for 2~3 days it will clear the beer up real nice and precipitate out all the yeast and haze producing particles such as tannins and certain proteins. now at this point you are ready to keg or bottle but if you bottle is a good idea to add a packet of dry yeast to the bottleing bucket for lagers

 

[Shooter]

Okay, I'm no subject matter expert on Coopers yeast. However, I believe all their kits get the same yeast. I'm pretty sure it's the same Coopers yeast you can buy in the stores and, as far as I know, it is not a lager yeast. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Pommy]

cheers for your advice guys, ill give it a week or so then bottle and just hope it all turns out ok, thanks for the support

 

[EoinMag]

Not true, I've brewed this exact Coopers kit. Yes, GASP, I sometimes still brew canned kits!! I used the additional fermentables kit that came from Austin Home Brew, which contains about a pound each of dry malt extract and, OMG, corn sugar. I believe it also contains a small amount of malto-dextrin. Quite honestly, it isn't half bad. It certainly was a quick brewday compared to steeping and doing a full 60 minute boil.

To the OP, give it time. Despite it being a quick brewday, I still let my kit sit in the primary fermenter for three weeks before even thinking of bottling it and then I gave it another three weeks to carbonate. I used the Coopers yeast, but my can was a long way from being out of date, and didn't have any problems.

So Corona and Sol aren't crappy beers? Hmmmm, even if you get it bang on in my opinion you're brewing a crappy beer, each to his own yeah?

I'm still 100% a kit brewer by the way, about to move onto extract so it's not that I don't like kits.....

 

[Shooter]

So Corona and Sol aren't crappy beers? Hmmmm, even if you get it bang on in my opinion you're brewing a crappy beer, each to his own yeah?

I'm still 100% a kit brewer by the way, about to move onto extract so it's not that I don't like kits.....

I think you've made my point, you said that the kit produces crappy results, but since you think Corona and Sol are crappy...well, if it gets it "bang on" I'd argue that it does a GREAT job of reproducing that beer!

Honestly, if I'm at the beach or eating Mexican food I'll drink a Sol or a Corona, or any other cheap Mexican beer, not saying their "great" just right for certain moments. A few weeks ago I was at a Scottish games festival in the area drinking Belhaven and eating haggis. Now, I might enjoy a Belhaven now and then, but I don't see much call for eating haggis otherwise, but it kind of seemed like the right thing at that time.

I once ordered a Corona at a club, not a lot of selection, and a friend of mine mentioned that in Mexico they don't drink that piss. I looked at him and asked, "...and how are you enjoying that Michelob Ultra you're drinking beer stud??"

Seriously though, to each his own. I was watching Craig Tube the other day, because I'd heard so much about him, and was all ready to bash him and then thought, "Hey, I wouldn't brew beer this way, but he seems to enjoy himself and likes the final product. If he offered me one I'd probably drink it and enjoy it."

Okay, so we're way at this point, back to your regularly scheduled program folks.

 

[Pommy]

I think you've made my point, you said that the kit produces crappy results, but since you think Corona and Sol are crappy...well, if it gets it "bang on" I'd argue that it does a GREAT job of reproducing that beer!

Honestly, if I'm at the beach or eating Mexican food I'll drink a Sol or a Corona, or any other cheap Mexican beer, not saying their "great" just right for certain moments. A few weeks ago I was at a Scottish games festival in the area drinking Belhaven and eating haggis. Now, I might enjoy a Belhaven now and then, but I don't see much call for eating haggis otherwise, but it kind of seemed like the right thing at that time.

I once ordered a Corona at a club, not a lot of selection, and a friend of mine mentioned that in Mexico they don't drink that piss. I looked at him and asked, "...and how are you enjoying that Michelob Ultra you're drinking beer stud??"

Seriously though, to each his own. I was watching Craig Tube the other day, because I'd heard so much about him, and was all ready to bash him and then thought, "Hey, I wouldn't brew beer this way, but he seems to enjoy himself and likes the final product. If he offered me one I'd probably drink it and enjoy it."

Okay, so we're way at this point, back to your regularly scheduled program folks.

so if it smells and tastes like @ss is there a chance that flavour will change or will it always be there (assuming its something to do with the yeast and not infection) ??? now ive tasted that I think even a hint will make me literally sick

 

[elmetal]

let it sit for a few weeks in secondary/primary. the lager yeast will produce that flavor when fermented a little high but let it sit and see if it goes away. don't trap it in the bottle/keg or else it will never go away.

 

[Shooter]

so if it smells and tastes like @ss is there a chance that flavour will change or will it always be there (assuming its something to do with the yeast and not infection) ??? now ive tasted that I think even a hint will make me literally sick

It could go away with time. I had an off flavor in one of my beers that faded in a matter of only a few weeks. It's possible that the beer is still very young. I leave all my beers, hopped extract or otherwise, in the primary at least three weeks before bottling and then don't sample for at least another three weeks. Almost every beer I've tasted at that point was still not as good as they were at four or five weeks.

If it's really as bad as you say it's possible that something went wrong in the process. I've got maybe a dozen batches, as well as a couple of cider and mead batches, under my belt. I've done a few Mr. Beer kits, the Coopers hopped extract cerveza kit, extract only kits, and several extract with steeping grains kits. I'm not really an experienced brewer, but I've yet to produce something undrinkable.

People keep talking about lager yeasts and sulfur smells. Again, correct me if I'm wrong, but the Coopers kits, even the ones described as lagers, all come with the same Coopers ALE yeast. This is NOT a lager yeast.

 

[davesrose]

so if it smells and tastes like @ss is there a chance that flavour will change or will it always be there (assuming its something to do with the yeast and not infection) ??? now ive tasted that I think even a hint will make me literally sick

You haven't mentioned what yeast you're using and what your fermentation temp has been. I've had a few California Commons have a sulfur smell while bubbling away (they have normally been yeast strains originally designated as lagers that I've brewed at an intensionally higher temp). Once the smell desipates, they tend to be mighty fine California Commons. Infections *usually* take awhile to have an off flavor: sounds more like just some temporary off flavors that should go away soon.

 

[slomo]

^^^+1 for the temporary off flavors, but just in case I am wrong I say instead of drinking one pint off Satan's goodness you should force yourself to get completely hammered off of it. Which should end up teaching you a good lesson!

 

[Pommy]

ok so the yeast i got i presume is just the standard that comes with all the Coopers kits (I didnt notice anything saying it was anything different.) Ill put it somewhere cool for a couple weeks as suggested earlier and hope the smell and taste sort themselves out it time. Ill bump the thread in a week or two to let you guys know how its going and ask for my next round of advice Cheers for all your help guys!

As far as brewing temp goes its been sitting around 22*C (71*F) tops id say, I didnt realise that was too high??? Ill do some research (usually helps )

 

[Pommy]

Now one week later it seems to have settled down and the smell/taste has all but disappeared, what little remains has smoothed out and is nowhere near as offensive. Ill be bottling in the morning so my last question is what should I do with it overnight, (leave at same temp, hotter, colder??? I think its around 60 at the minute) I was thinking of putting it outside so that it could cool then warm up in time for bottling first thing in the morning. The mrs is already nagging at me for some beer since we've drank everything and she will have to wait once its bottled, its a matter of needing to free up space for the next batch.

 

[beerocd]

Sounds like you need to edumacate your wife on the benefits of kegging.

-OCD

 

[Pommy]

yes i definitely will, getting our wine set up next then getting the keg going, unfortunately she will have to wait a bit for me to get the money together since were drinking it all atm .