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[BrewFrisco]

An apartment is a container for a person, owned by someone else... the deposit is to encourage you to return it in the same shape as when you received it.

A keg is a container for beer, owned by someone else... the deposit is to encourage you to return it in the same shape as when you received it.

Its the same concept.

The deposit for an apartment is for damage and cleaning. You leave $250 bucks stating that you will not place abnormal wear and tear on the unit...

A keg deposit $25 deposit is more of an "incentive" to return the keg.. I suppose if you brought the keg back all smashed in - they could still keep it.

In most cases, the deposit is to cover the cost of the pump / ice tub...

 

[Airborneguy]

An apartment is a container for a person, owned by someone else... the deposit is to encourage you to return it in the same shape as when you received it.

A keg is a container for beer, owned by someone else... the deposit is to encourage you to return it in the same shape as when you received it.

Its the same concept.

Not even close. As I stated above, real estate laws are different. Real Estate is a different class of property and is treated much differently in the laws.

You can compare it all you want, you're wrong.

 

[BrewFrisco]

If you cut the roof off , you are...

Yes, if you cut the roof off, you have just damaged property outside of the limitations of your unit damage deposit.

Are you seriously trying to compare cutting the roof off of an apartment complex with cutting the top of a $50 keg in efforts to prove some similarity to the nature of the crime? WOW!

 

[mixedbrewer]

Cutting the top of a keg off is damaging it outside the limitations of your deposit.

 

[Airborneguy]

Furthermore, your apartment deposit covers normal wear and tear, not criminal acts of mischief which result in damage.

 

[Airborneguy]

Cutting the top of a keg off is damaging it outside the limitations of your deposit.

I'm going to have to assume at this point that you can't grasp the concept that real estate is a different class of property.

 

[BrewFrisco]

Cutting the top of a keg off is damaging it outside the limitations of your deposit.

Negative... they have my $50 bucks... I chose to let them keep my $50 bucks.. I have signed nothing.... I can do what I wish with what is now MY property...

 

[turtleboy3737]

6 pages of morality and law and not a single post about how awesome it is he got half of a keg of an awesome beer for the cost of the keg deposit.

oh well.

 

[mixedbrewer]

This isn't a property class issue. Its about ruining someone else's property.

 

[BrewFrisco]

6 pages of morality and law and not a single post about how awesome it is he got half of a keg of an awesome beer for the cost of the keg deposit.

oh well.

My thoughts exactly! I never thought I would be harassed about the legality of my awesome score.

Plan on tapping into this beer tonight!

 

[veritas524]

So if I don't recycle my beer bottles that I paid a $.05 deposit on, is that theft?

 

[BrewFrisco]

This isn't a property class issue. Its about ruining someone else's property.

It's now MY property... why is that so hard to understand? I paid them $50 bucks for a keg...???

 

[Airborneguy]

This isn't a property class issue. Its about ruining someone else's property.

Someone else's property that is in a different class legally than an apartment, which you keep trying to compare it to.

 

[mixedbrewer]

If you think so... "them" being the rightful owner of course.

 

[mixedbrewer]

Just because its a lesser class of property makes it ok... my mistake.

 

[BrewFrisco]

This is going nowhere...it's like trying to debate religion....

 

[mixedbrewer]

right from wrong will always go nowhere... because some people have the two confused

 

[Airborneguy]

Well, in the State of NY, I can 100% guarantee you that this isn't stealing, by any definition. You can keep debating it, but you are wrong.

I know nothing about the laws in TN and originally stated that I was talking about NY in my post.

 

[Airborneguy]

right from wrong will always go nowhere... because some people have the two confused

I'm not refuting your points with platitudes. I'm talking about actual laws.

 

[mixedbrewer]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19562843/ns/business-consumer_news/

 

[saluki_brewer]

Well I just hope that your $50 keg of DFH90 is worth spending eternity being scorched by white-hot flames of infinite sadness.

 

[Airborneguy]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19562843/ns/business-consumer_news/

No mention of criminality other than MSNC choosing to use the word "theft", and no mention of NY in the entire article, so it doesn't refute anything I said.

 

[mixedbrewer]

It hurts beer companies... and hurting beer is a crime in itself.

 

[Airborneguy]

No disagreement there, you should have made that your point all along. I was just stating the legal facts of the matter. Personally, I wouldn't do it, but I laugh when its mentioned on this forum and everyone refers to it as illegal.

 

[mixedbrewer]

I never once mentioned illegal.. I was comparing it to the concept of wrecking an apartment just because you put the deposit down.

 

[TheBrewinator]

What about kegs that are so old the brewery and distributor no longer exist? Who does the keg fall on then if you were to find one of those collecting dust in an old barn? Does it belong to the ghost of breweries past? Does it belong to the person who paid the deposit on it and never returned it? Should it be stricken from existence like the brewery?

 

[BeerWars]

You all Compliance Officers?

Geesh, remind me never to share any of my good stories with you guys after I've had a few. I would hate to hear what you thought about me if you are on your soapbox calling this kid a thief if he doesn't return a keg after leaving a deposit on a vessel that contained a $300 concoction of water and ethanol.

 

[thisgoestoeleven]

My thoughts on this whole thread can be summed up thusly:

 

[BrewFrisco]

well i just hope that your $50 keg of dfh90 is worth spending eternity being scorched by white-hot flames of infinite sadness.

rofl!!!

 

[BrewFrisco]

Update: Transferred keg to my corny keg - filled it completely...even had to dump about a gallon of 90 onto my driveway (that is after filling a large cup and a growler + corny)!!! I had plans for my corny...now I am in search for another one before Supoerbowl weekend...

Option A - Kill 5 gallons of DF90 by next Friday
Option B - Get another corny keg