Sweet Stout Deception Cream Stout

[PackerfaninSanDiego]

Sorry, meant don't use straight peanut butter. PB2 should be good

no biggie,,I see PB2 comes with chocolate too.......
http://www.bellplantation.com/products/4-pack-chocolate-pb2-powdered-peanut-butter-6-5-oz-jars.html

 

[thunderwagn]

Bottled up my batch of Deception this afternoon. Sample tasted delicious! I don't know how long I can keep my hands off this stuff. I better get another batch going pronto.

 

[oljimmy]

Hey all, I haven't seen this addressed specifically in the thread: I have no access to 300L *light* roasted Barley, but I can get regular dark roasted barley (550L). That's a pretty huge jump, though, and I'm nervous. Should I scale down the 9oz accordingly (to 5 oz) or just not worry about it?

 

[Ariando]

Has anyone compared this and Black Pearl posted by Biermuncher? I have played and tweeked it a bit and am thinking of trying this Deception Cream for another change.

 

[bolus14]

I have made both. They were both in my first year of brewing though and I'm sure would be better if I made them now.
This, Deception, had something "off" looking back I'm guessing I underpitched and used old yeast.
I like Black Pearl from what I remember, but I like the smoother mouthfeel of cream stout more.

One change I would make based on personal preference is to use Caramel 120L, to me it has the most Caramel like flavor. I know others like the lighter Caramel malts as it give a more subtle Caramel taste.

 

[smit70136]

Ariando - They are both excellent recipes. BPP is a bit more sweet and silky from what I remember (it's been about six months since I've had one) while DCS is slightly less sweet but still smooth with a roasted bite at the finish. I think of BPP like chocolate milk while DCS is more like a good strong cappuccino. Not sure I can tell from your post - have you tried either or both? One thing I noticed was that DCS definitely benefits from a bit of aging (2-3 months).

 

[Ariando]

The only one I have made is the black pearl a few times and making small changes enough where I thought I could rename. Midnight opal. I do feel it has been a bit sweet but the wife loves it.

 

[fluidjuice]

Hi want to make the all grain version this weekend, got all the ingredients,
Just wanted to know what water profile everyone is using, i.e.
Ca MG Na Cl SO4 HCo3


Thanks in advance

 

[fluidjuice]

Hi want to make the all grain version this weekend, got all the ingredients,
Just wanted to know what water profile everyone is using, i.e.
Ca MG Na Cl SO4 HCo3


Thanks in advance

Anyone please brewing this tomoz?👍

 

[skitter]

Filtered tap water so no clue... Just know it came out great

 

[arbadarchi]

I used Chrystal Geiser spring water.

 

[armedcor]

Kegged this a few days ago and force carbed one bottle just to have a quick taste. Holy god it's without a doubt the best beer I've made.

 

[arbadarchi]

View attachment ImageUploadedByHome Brew1446693961.353244.jpg it's starting to taste pretty dang good.

 

[thunderwagn]

View attachment 314005 it's starting to taste pretty dang good.

It looks dang good. Makes me wanna crack a bottle of mine. I'm REALLY trying to hold off till at least the weekend. I may break.

 

[arbadarchi]

It looks dang good. Makes me wanna crack a bottle of mine. I'm REALLY trying to hold off till at least the weekend. I may break.

Mine's been in the bottle for 3 1/2 weeks and the flavors are just starting to come together. Before it was a bit too bitter, thin, and the flavors were disconnected.

I think the main reason I've held off on drinking these is because it's fresh hop season... Glad I have a bunch to let get older

 

[castillo556]

Would this would be a good candidate to turn into a chocolate stout? Mash a little higher and toss in 5 or 6 oz of cocoa powder at 5 min?

 

[christyle]

I'm not good at recipe formulation, so I'm not sure, but what's the difference in effect between a 5min addition and a secondary addition?

I think it could be great for some chocolate, I may try that on half next time. Personally, I LOVE it as an espresso milk stout.

 

[WildCardBrewing]

So I was getting ready to make a 10 gallon batch of this with plans to split it between 2 fermenters and use wlp004 in one and wlp013 in the other. Instead I made a bonehead mistake and added both yeasts to the same flask when making starters. Any thoughts on what to expect from the yeast combo?

 

[arbadarchi]

So I was getting ready to make a 10 gallon batch of this with plans to split it between 2 fermenters and use wlp004 in one and wlp013 in the other. Instead I made a bonehead mistake and added both yeasts to the same flask when making starters. Any thoughts on what to expect from the yeast combo?

Do you work at wildcard brewing in redding?

 

[WildCardBrewing]

Do you work at wildcard brewing in redding?

No. I'm more of a lurker on this site and chose the username based off an Always Sunny episode. I had no idea that brewery existed until last year when I saw it on untapped.

 

[arbadarchi]

No. I'm more of a lurker on this site and chose the username based off an Always Sunny episode. I had no idea that brewery existed until last year when I saw it on untapped.

Oh nice! I was thinking I would give you a bottle of my deception if you were local.

 

[billspudley]

Brewing my second batch of DCS this weekend. This time it will be an oatmeal cream stout, with the vanilla bourbon bean tincture added during secondary.

Last time, I toasted a ton of coconut and added to secondary before racking on to the bourbon bean solution. It was delicious, getting great reviews from my homebrew club and all of the friends I shipped to, but a pain to siphon as the siphon continuously clogged. I even used a sanitized muslin bag over the end of the auto siphon.

 

[Jwin]

Brewing my second batch of DCS this weekend. This time it will be an oatmeal cream stout, with the vanilla bourbon bean tincture added during secondary.

Last time, I toasted a ton of coconut and added to secondary before racking on to the bourbon bean solution. It was delicious, getting great reviews from my homebrew club and all of the friends I shipped to, but a pain to siphon as the siphon continuously clogged. I even used a sanitized muslin bag over the end of the auto siphon.

Maybe bag the coconut next time?

 

[billspudley]

Maybe bag the coconut next time?

Maybe, if there's an easy way to bag 20 oz. of toasted coconut in a carboy.
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[Jwin]

Maybe, if there's an easy way to bag 20 oz. of toasted coconut in a carboy.
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Paint strainer bag?

 

[KPBrews]

Maybe, if there's an easy way to bag 20 oz. of toasted coconut in a carboy.
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Put the bag in first (empty), and add the coconut with a funnel? You may need to push it down once or twice during the process, but I'd think it would work.

Bigger hassle getting the dang thing back out.

 

[castillo556]

Use a bucket

 

[christyle]

...or a big mouth bubbler. Love my plastic one.

 

[dude_brewery]

Put the bag in first (empty), and add the coconut with a funnel? You may need to push it down once or twice during the process, but I'd think it would work.

Bigger hassle getting the dang thing back out.

I've used coconut a number of times in a milk stout recipe of mine. I've added the coconut both at the secondary conditioning stage (using a fermenting bucket), and a couple of occasions I've added it into the keg when short on time. When adding the coconut into the keg, I'll use a partial mash grain bag to contain the coconut (approximately 2 lbs of flaked toasted coconut usually). It is a PITA to get the bag of coconut out of the keg once the coconut has become saturated with beer. And the keg opening is pretty substantial. I imagine that if you ever did manage to fill a bag with coconut flakes in a carboy, there would be no getting it out.

Definitely just get a fermenting bucket or big mouth, and condition in that.

 

[KPBrews]

I've used coconut a number of times in a milk stout recipe of mine. I've added the coconut both at the secondary conditioning stage (using a fermenting bucket), and a couple of occasions I've added it into the keg when short on time. When adding the coconut into the keg, I'll use a partial mash grain bag to contain the coconut (approximately 2 lbs of flaked toasted coconut usually). It is a PITA to get the bag of coconut out of the keg once the coconut has become saturated with beer. And the keg opening is pretty substantial. I imagine that if you ever did manage to fill a bag with coconut flakes in a carboy, there would be no getting it out.

Definitely just get a fermenting bucket or big mouth, and condition in that.

Yeah, I guessed it would be the removing that would be the issue.

OH! How about a Shop Vac! With a skinny wand to fit in the carboy neck! Just suck that bag empty, and you're good to go!