Sweet Stout Deception Cream Stout

[arbadarchi]

The pale chocolate is different than chocolate malt that this recipe calls for. It shouldn't be a huge difference bit its different. For the most part the color is about half and you'll lose some intensity of the roast/chocolate flavors. Still should make a good beer!!

As for efficiency I hit 65%-68% consistently doing BIAB whether I'm doing 10lb of grain or 16lb. Consistency is more important than achieving high efficiency.

Bummer about the pale chocolate, I haven't brewed yet, would it be worth it to pick up maybe 3-6 oz of the right stuff? Or should I just brew as is?

And for effieciency, I'm still learning so if I can establish 75% early on it will be helpful for me, as it seems most recipes are set for that. I may move towards a mash tun in the future

 

[bolus14]

Up to you on whether to go for it or not. IMO I think you'll lose some of the roastiness, if it was me I would wait till I could get the right stuff. But, I know my taste and what I like your preference might be different.

 

[arbadarchi]

All my grains were mixed together after milling at the LHBS. I just went with it. We'll see how it turns out. The wort was still black.

I think i ended up a couple points short on my OG. I'm finding that I only boil a half gallon an hour with my e-kettle, and it's causing me to come up short. I boiled closer to 90 min but was still high on my volume. I had to be somewhere so stuck it in the ice bath and will check the OG when I get back

 

[bolus14]

After three years of home brewing I'm still fighting to figure out my boil off rate. Seems to be outside temp/humidity plays a big role in how much I boil off.

I think the beer will be fine. Like in said, you might end a little light on the roasty flavor but will still be good.

 

[arbadarchi]

So my OG was 1.059, which is 1 point over my target! Stoked that double crushing my grains helped.

Alright guys see you in a month [emoji482]

 

[wtaylor3]

Enjoy, I gave out 4 of these yesterday to old army buddy and she said she really enjoyed the one I added vanilla extract to and is going to chill the other three for a few days. (Bottled this somewhere around may, I believe)

 

[armedcor]

Brewed this yesterday as my first brew on a whole new rig. Mash efficiency was great but my boil off was way less than I anticipated and ended up a good bit under gravity. Aw well. Hydrometer sample still made me excited for the roast and coffee taste.

 

[rossi46]

Strike water is heating, should mash in soon. Only difference is M.O. instead of 2 row.

 

[smit70136]

Strike water is heating, should mash in soon. Only difference is M.O. instead of 2 row.

IMO the otter sub will be good. Tell us how it turns out! I love this beer.

 

[Shenanigans]

Hi All,

I want to brew a stout for the winter months so I think I'll give this a shot next weekend.

I brew all-grain but if I look at the OP the percentages for all-grain don't quite match up with the extract.
This is probably normal but I have no experience with extract vs all-grain.

I don't want to mess it up by using the wrong amount of pale malt.
Can someone please post their grain percentages so I know where to start from?

Thanks!

 

[rossi46]

IMO the otter sub will be good. Tell us how it turns out! I love this beer.

Will do. On a side note, I used my new monster mill and my efficiency was up from 72% to 85, I bumped the hops up to compensate .

 

[christyle]

I brew all-grain but if I look at the OP the percentages for all-grain don't quite match up with the extract.
This is probably normal but I have no experience with extract vs all-grain.

I don't want to mess it up by using the wrong amount of pale malt.
Can someone please post their grain percentages so I know where to start from?

Thanks!

I've brewed the recipe as shown in the first post AG twice now and loved it. I wouldn't change a thing.

 

[Shenanigans]

I've brewed the recipe as shown in the first post AG twice now and loved it. I wouldn't change a thing.

Thanks for your reply.
So did you use 6.5 or 7lb pale malt?

I've run out of US-05 so I'm going to use a pack of BRY-97 for this.
Should be a good yeast for it.
Now I just need to decide if I use MO or normal pale ale malt.
Not sure I could detect the difference with all that roast malt present so I will probably go for normal pale ale and keep the MO for something else.

 

[christyle]

Probably just 7, I'll always err on the side of more haha

 

[arbadarchi]

Man, I keep hearing everyone say they wouldn't change a thing... I'm bummed I used pale chocolate instead of chocolate malt...

I also used s-04 do you guys think this yeast will turn out good?

 

[Wreck99]

s-04 is a great yeast for stouts imo

I've made a couple cream stouts, oatmeal stout with that.

 

[Jwin]

It can be stressed by higher gravity though

 

[Shenanigans]

I plan on brewing this with BRY-97.
I used all my US-05 last weekend

 

[arbadarchi]

I was reading a number of different perspectives. What do you guys think are appropriate fermentation and bottle conditioning times? I would like to have this ready by thanksgiving. It's been in the fermenter 7 days now. 3 weeks fermentation / 3 weeks bottle?

 

[arbadarchi]

Took a hydrometer reading tonight and I'm at 1.018/1.019. Was more bitter, not as sweet, and not as toasty as I was expecting. Granted I used pale chocolate instead of chocolate malt, and I think the magnum at my LHBS was a little higher in alpha acids. It was also a little boozy on the nose. It's only been in the fermenter for 8 days

 

[legacyofmisfortune]

I brewed this recepie last Saturday everything went great, it´s now bubbling away in the fermentor, had to get rid of the airlock and put on a blowoff tube to avoid any disasters because my bucket fermentor was about to blow the lid off, I could hear the gas escaping the fermentor.
I was forced to make some adjustments to it, added 2 extra oz of chocolate and roasted barley (each)to make it darker because it was more like a browinsh color, it helped a lot but is not black. The biggest change was the yeast and the hops, they didn´t had any Eroica so I used chinook, didn´t find anywere Denny favorite 50 yeast and couldnt get my hands in any Wyeast so after looking and looking I had to settle with WL004 Irish yeast, it should do the job.

the wort tasted great, you could already smell a bit of coffee and taste the chocolate. Even my wife liked it and was surprised by the chocolate flavor, and she´s a BMC drinker, she even likes that bud with clamato in it. At least now she likes Ciders and Hefes.


I´m gonna try my best to wait three months and see how it turns out, but so far I have high expectations for this beer. O.G was 1.053 just a bit on the low side, but shouldn´t be a problem

 

[billspudley]

I was reading a number of different perspectives. What do you guys think are appropriate fermentation and bottle conditioning times? I would like to have this ready by thanksgiving. It's been in the fermenter 7 days now. 3 weeks fermentation / 3 weeks bottle?

I did 2 weeks primary, then two weeks secondary after racking onto 20 oz. of toasted coconut, then bottle conditioned for two more. Several weeks after that, it is amazing. Thanksgiving is a great target, and you won't be disappointed. I followed the original recipe, except for the coconut, and using the Northern Brewer priming sugar calculator for the right amount of priming sugar, rather than a standard 5 oz. of dextrose.

 

[arbadarchi]

I did 2 weeks primary, then two weeks secondary after racking onto 20 oz. of toasted coconut, then bottle conditioned for two more. Several weeks after that, it is amazing. Thanksgiving is a great target, and you won't be disappointed. I followed the original recipe, except for the coconut, and using the Northern Brewer priming sugar calculator for the right amount of priming sugar, rather than a standard 5 oz. of dextrose.

How many volumes did you carb to?

 

[arbadarchi]

View attachment ImageUploadedByHome Brew1444201359.347884.jpg even with pale chocolate instead of chocolate malt it's black.

 

[billspudley]

How many volumes did you carb to?

2.0 vols. I've gotten nothing but rave reviews from the bourbon vanilla bean version I did. This is going to be a permanent fixture through Spring for me!

 

[PackerfaninSanDiego]

this is a delicious stout just the way it is, that being said, I'm thinking about flavoring it with peanut butter,,,,,,,,any recommndations on what to use, PB2 or real, etc?

 

[Jwin]

this is a delicious stout just the way it is, that being said, I'm thinking about flavoring it with peanut butter,,,,,,,,any recommndations on what to use, PB2 or real, etc?

Not real
Oil will kill the head
That being said, never used either in a beer

 

[italarican]

this is a delicious stout just the way it is, that being said, I'm thinking about flavoring it with peanut butter,,,,,,,,any recommndations on what to use, PB2 or real, etc?

If you still have a batch of the original, how about putting some with peanut butter in a french press to see if you'll like it?

http://drinks.seriouseats.com/2013/...-infuse-beer-with-hops-spices-cocoa-nibs.html

 

[PackerfaninSanDiego]

Not real
Oil will kill the head
That being said, never used either in a beer

please elaborate why not to use PB2 as many have

 

[Jwin]

please elaborate why not to use PB2 as many have

Sorry, meant don't use straight peanut butter. PB2 should be good