You need to get off your high horse. He's only human. You have not idea what the circumstances were behind him having to lipsynch...I saw the same show and YES he was clearly lip synching....there's not doubt, BUT: I think you are being a bit critical. Dave has been thru a lot of **** in his life and its probably taking its toll. Just be glad that he is at least still performing and staying true to his sound (unlike sell-out-allica)...I still enjoyed the show despite the fact that he was lipsynching...Dave is one helluva guitarist and thats all that counts...
Dave Mustaine = Lipsyncer
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LoL, I think this goes down as the most non brewer attracting thread ever. When you get the point where you can't sing a live show anymore, it's time to pack it in. Performers who rely on their voices don't get a free pass. If you let Dave slide, you have to do it for Ashlee Simpson too. I'd buy the bit about him being a helluva guitarist but if you stand in front of the mic, you better sing too. Metallica might have sold out, but last I checked, Hetfield is still making the sound that comes over the PA.
He should have never been behind the mic in the first place. I like some of the music, but srsly...dude has a terrible voice.
MikeG
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I get a chuckle every time this thread gets bumped.
Dunno why every Mustaine fan like slownlo has to compare to Metallica...Metallica won, get over it. Unless that is Rock Band makes an entire game based on Megadeth :O.
histo320
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couldn't have said it better myself.
They both suck now...there's a comparison for ya. No one won.
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neko
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I haven't seen a post that has attracted so many first time posters. Maybe this will get them into homebrewing.
Anyway, I don't really care much for Megadeth but checked out the video to see what was going on. It does seem kinda fake, but I might not have noticed if someone hadn't told me. That is until 3:55 in the video on the first page. He starts "signing" at the right time, but he closes his mouth and steps away from the mic while you can clearly hear his voice continue for another second or two.
It seems kind of strange to defend his syncing based on the crap he's been through. What if all the guitars were dubbed? "Oh, he took too much crazy stuff in the past and he just can't get his body together to play tonight." I saw a Boston concert about 6 years ago (for free in the box seats!) and the lead singer was like, "Hey this is xxx, he's helping me out with some singing parts now because I can't hit the high notes anymore". I'd never heard that happening before, but at least he came out and admitted it. I would be disappointed if I were at a concert and expected all these high notes, but never got them.
My brother went to a Cure concert back in the day and it was one of his favorite bands. He was really bummed out because Robert Smith lip synced the whole show. I guess it happens across all genres of music, but if I'm paying money to see a live show or buying a DVD I fully expect everyone to actually play their instruments and sing the songs.
Anyway, I don't really care much for Megadeth but checked out the video to see what was going on. It does seem kinda fake, but I might not have noticed if someone hadn't told me. That is until 3:55 in the video on the first page. He starts "signing" at the right time, but he closes his mouth and steps away from the mic while you can clearly hear his voice continue for another second or two.
It seems kind of strange to defend his syncing based on the crap he's been through. What if all the guitars were dubbed? "Oh, he took too much crazy stuff in the past and he just can't get his body together to play tonight." I saw a Boston concert about 6 years ago (for free in the box seats!) and the lead singer was like, "Hey this is xxx, he's helping me out with some singing parts now because I can't hit the high notes anymore". I'd never heard that happening before, but at least he came out and admitted it. I would be disappointed if I were at a concert and expected all these high notes, but never got them.
My brother went to a Cure concert back in the day and it was one of his favorite bands. He was really bummed out because Robert Smith lip synced the whole show. I guess it happens across all genres of music, but if I'm paying money to see a live show or buying a DVD I fully expect everyone to actually play their instruments and sing the songs.
It's cool that when you google Dave Mustaine lip syncs, that this thread is the number one return.
It's pathetic that people have to go through the hassle of creating an HBT account just to bash the OP.
It's pathetic that people have to go through the hassle of creating an HBT account just to bash the OP.
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I'm open to all genres of music, even the ones that have pre-production tracks at the very core of a live show like NIN. I do however expect ALL of the vocals I hear to be derived on stage from someone's throat. I guess I'm crazy like that.
Just to clarify, I'm sure he wasn't lipsyncing the show which is moving your lips to prerecorded vocal tracks. What he did, probably by his DVD producer's demand, was to studio track the vocals to be placed inline with the other audio from that show. The vocals probably sounded way too ****ty to be a part of the DVD. This isn't the first time it was done and it's not a tragedy by any means. All artists work with studio tools to clean up the recordings they are trying to sell. They can and regularly do use pitch correction tools on otherwise good takes.
Just to clarify, I'm sure he wasn't lipsyncing the show which is moving your lips to prerecorded vocal tracks. What he did, probably by his DVD producer's demand, was to studio track the vocals to be placed inline with the other audio from that show. The vocals probably sounded way too ****ty to be a part of the DVD. This isn't the first time it was done and it's not a tragedy by any means. All artists work with studio tools to clean up the recordings they are trying to sell. They can and regularly do use pitch correction tools on otherwise good takes.
Holy thread bumping, noob!!! You're very first post in this HUUUUUUGGGGEEEE forum, and you stumble upon this thread and decide to use your trump post, your into...here?
LOL...
I think mine was in the Paris Hilton Panites thread...but at least that was brewing related....sortoff. LOL
Welcome!
But bashing the OP of a thread, is uncool.
I thought that blood in the water HD tv thing was dubbed, probably a few songs that sounded band or something. I looked up some of Dave's live vids and they definatly sound much much worse than that. However, Dave can sing and play pretty flawlessly if he really tries to, so it is not like the dubbing is a necessity. Have a listen
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Yeah, that is some great singing there
I mean, I guess it's pretty close to the album.
I mean, I guess it's pretty close to the album.
I think they are all actually Dave Mustaine trying to restore his image
Dr_Gordon_Freeman
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I was at this show. He wasn't lip syncing. They probably remixed the vocals after the fact to improve the quality for the video broadcast.
This is true and I think was already discussed. Mustaine is a lot of things, but I seriously doubt that he is a lip-syncer. I think he'd cancel a show before he would do that.
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I used the "lip-syncing" for lack of a better term. I didn't mean to imply he was mouthing the words to a prerecorded track during the live show. I'm saying the lead vocal track was re-recorded in a studio prior to the final cut of the DVD. It's not simple remixing. "post live show track rerecording". While it increases the quality of the performance, it's not capturing the reality of the live show experience (not that a recording really can ever do that).
I hate live recordings. There are perhaps two live albums that I can listen to, and I don't like concert videos. They can never do the reality justice.
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Agreed. Unfortunately it's really hard to get out to shows when they are a billion dollars a ticket and I need to find babysitters. I end up watching Paladia instead.
Or you don't care what you're going to pay because it's Slayer, Testament and Megadeth, but then Tom Araya gets back surgery and the show gets postponed for 6 months
When I saw them, they played their old sh!t, tough guy. Just because I don't buy their albums doesn't mean they can't thrash.
And I like Countdown to Extinction. There is a lot of crap on EVERY album, the first three included.
And I like Countdown to Extinction. There is a lot of crap on EVERY album, the first three included.
seanybubbles
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And to think I was going to make up some Mustaine related brews.....you can forget the "Peace sells Pale ale" and the "Holy Wars Hefeweizen". It's gonna be tough now to come up with a beer for lars ulrich.
seanybubbles
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I find this lipsink issue so disturbing I might even dump my batch of "anarchy in the U.k IPA"........It's extremely bitter....just like dave.
I liked your old avitar picture better. This new one confuses me...
name ONE bad song from each of the first 3 albums.
I'll have to go back and listen to them, as I've been over them for a long time
I'm not going to disagree with you on the quality (or lack thereof) of the newer albums, I'm just saying it's not Slayer.
As for my avatar...what's confusing? You've never seen a crazed, flesh-eating undead gerenuk before??
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I have Ride The Lightning in my cd player right now. but, metallica can suck it.
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