Cream Ale Cream of Three Crops (Cream Ale)

[Calaeb]

Awesome thanks for the reply!

 

[A50SNAKE]

fairly newbie here....so please be gentle with me

for the flaked corn and minute rice, I don't mill those right? just mill the 2 row, and combine and mash?

secondly, I see the original recipe is saying a 90 minute mash and a 90 minute boil, is everyone still following this? and is there a more updated/newer/better? version of the original some place in the 331 pages?

I'm looking to start a 5G batch tonight and tomorrow, so I'm just going to 1/2 the original recipe, that should work out ok right?

 

[bonecitybrewco]

fairly newbie here....so please be gentle with me

for the flaked corn and minute rice, I don't mill those right? just mill the 2 row, and combine and mash?

secondly, I see the original recipe is saying a 90 minute mash and a 90 minute boil, is everyone still following this? and is there a more updated/newer/better? version of the original some place in the 331 pages?

I'm looking to start a 5G batch tonight and tomorrow, so I'm just going to 1/2 the original recipe, that should work out ok right?

Flaked corn and flaked rice can be just added to the mash no problem.

The original recipe is for 90/90. I did that with my batch. The 90 minute mash produces a very highly fermentable wort since the mash temp is lower. This produces a drier, crisper beer. The 90 minute boil isn't really necessary, especially if you've hit your target volume after only 60. It really depends on your equipment. For example, I boiled for 90 and only finished with 4.5 gallons. I should have just stopped at 60 mins. Still turned out to be a great beer.

For the grain bill, based on a lot of people's experience and even Biermunchers own advice, I ended up brewing something different slightly for the grain bill. I would do something akin to below for a 5.5 gal batch:

7 lbs Pale 2-row (Canadian)
1.5 lbs Flaked Corn
1 lb Flaked Rice
0.5lb Rice Hulls

Personally, I added a pound of vienna and subtracted a pound of two row, just to bump the malt profile a bit. Also, the lower corn and higher rice content balanced the beer out more I think. A lot of people throughout the pages (yes, I read them all) complained of 'corniness' in the finished beer without longer conditioning times. This seemed to fix that "issue"

 

[A50SNAKE]

Flaked corn and flaked rice can be just added to the mash no problem.

The original recipe is for 90/90. I did that with my batch. The 90 minute mash produces a very highly fermentable wort since the mash temp is lower. This produces a drier, crisper beer. The 90 minute boil isn't really necessary, especially if you've hit your target volume after only 60. It really depends on your equipment. For example, I boiled for 90 and only finished with 4.5 gallons. I should have just stopped at 60 mins. Still turned out to be a great beer.

For the grain bill, based on a lot of people's experience and even Biermunchers own advice, I ended up brewing something different slightly for the grain bill. I would do something akin to below for a 5.5 gal batch:

7 lbs Pale 2-row (Canadian)
1.5 lbs Flaked Corn
1 lb Flaked Rice
0.5lb Rice Hulls

Personally, I added a pound of vienna and subtracted a pound of two row, just to bump the malt profile a bit. Also, the lower corn and higher rice content balanced the beer out more I think. A lot of people throughout the pages (yes, I read them all) complained of 'corniness' in the finished beer without longer conditioning times. This seemed to fix that "issue"

thank you soo much for your reply!

I already have all my ingredients ordered based on just splitting the recipe, so I have everything that you mentioned in the new recipe, except, I was planning on hitting the grocery store for some minute rice...so I don't have the flaked rice...will that make much of a difference? or maybe the bulk barn has some flaked rice, maybe?

p.s. happy early Canada Day!!! :rockin:
p.s.s. is that "Dust" in your signature a favorite brew of yours? or does that mean nothing? LOL

 

[bonecitybrewco]

thank you soo much for your reply!

I already have all my ingredients ordered based on just splitting the recipe, so I have everything that you mentioned in the new recipe, except, I was planning on hitting the grocery store for some minute rice...so I don't have the flaked rice...will that make much of a difference? or maybe the bulk barn has some flaked rice, maybe?

p.s. happy early Canada Day!!! :rockin:
p.s.s. is that "Dust" in your signature a favorite brew of yours? or does that mean nothing? LOL

Thanks! You too!

Minute rice can just be added right to the mash as well. It is already parboiled.

The 'dust' is a pretty common thing here. Just saying empty without being as boring or as lame as admitting it is actually empty

 

[A50SNAKE]

perfect, Minute rice it is for me then...

hahaha....I like it, thanks for the explanation.

 

[ballsy]

Kegged it.....first time brewing this recipe....first infected batch, I think...in 4 years of brewing....arrrrrrrrrgh. No more storing yeast slurry for me. Not worth the $5 savings for a ruined batch....now only hoping the same yeast slurry doesn't infect my IPA and Pale Ale I have fermenting. So lame.

 

[brewbama]

Kegged it.....first time brewing this recipe....first infected batch, I think...in 4 years of brewing....arrrrrrrrrgh. No more storing yeast slurry for me. Not worth the $5 savings for a ruined batch....now only hoping the same yeast slurry doesn't infect my IPA and Pale Ale I have fermenting. So lame.

+1. Use fresh clean yeast.

 

[DeadNutsBrewing]

It's probably been mentioned somewhere in this loooonnnggg thread but, has anyone tried adding fruit and/or spices to this beer?

 

[treacheroustexan]

It's probably been mentioned somewhere in this loooonnnggg thread but, has anyone tried adding fruit and/or spices to this beer?

Yes. I added blackberries to it (1#/gal). Turned out delicious. Just brought me home a medal a few weeks ago scoring a 39.

 

[Indygunworks]

So without reading the whole thread, is there a variation that has become more popular than the original recipe? or should I just brew the first batch using the OR

 

[bonecitybrewco]

So without reading the whole thread, is there a variation that has become more popular than the original recipe? or should I just brew the first batch using the OR

Honestly I'd suggest brewing the original recipe and then go from there. You'll get a feel for if you want more malt, more mouthfeel etc.

 

[pstrohs]

I going to brew a 10 gallon batch and pitch a chico strain in 5 gallons. I am looking to do a different strain in the other 5 gallons. Any suggestions?

 

[rockinmac]

It turned out awesome. I can't believe it's an ale. Ended up using notty yeast. Fermented at 59. Starting gravity was 1.056 finished at 1.007. overshot gravity but it was awesome. Drank 10 gallons it 3 weeks

 

[bonecitybrewco]

Continue to be amazed by how much this beer clears in the bottle. I am sure if I had crashed with gelatin it would have been this clear in bottle #1, but still.

 

[rrhoads]

Just tapped my first keg (of my second try at 10 gallons of this).
I pretty much stuck to the recipe, including the full amount of corn, but I added 1.5 lbs of Vienna, used German Perle hops to the letter, and fermented with US-05 for 2.5 weeks in primary, then directly to the keg.
It has only been on gas/gelatin for 3 days but is already cleared up very nicely and tastes way better than my first 10 gallon batch of this, which was too corny(?), and not as clean. I should add that on my first attempt, I added clarity ferm at fermentation, so that could have an effect(?).

 

[Ibrewaletx]

Made this last October, just getting to posting. My color was considerably lighter than others and expected, I'll back off some rice the next I brew this. Very BMC'ish, light, easy drinking and really should make more for this long Texas summer. Cheers.

 

[wtaylor3]

Haven't brewed anything in months because I somehow forgot how to calculate water volumes and made 3 bad batches of what was supposed to be beer and was more like flavored water...

I now have recently became interested in trying again and have some family coming from out of town on August 20th so I may be trying to rush and get a batch done for their arrival

I keg so I have enough time to possibly try again if the first attempt doesn't pan out

I have a two tap kegerator I built and haven't even used yet except to store venison in the freezer side and I may try to do a second batch of co3c with habanero and mango...has anyone tried this

 

[rrhoads]

Here's a few pics of the latest batch with the 1.5 lbs of Viennna added. As you can tell, although still very light, It has a slight golden hue compared to most examples on here.
Very nice refreshing beer.
I think the 1.5 lbs of Vienna helped to balance the flavor of the corn, which I found a little cloying, with a little extra malt.
The Perle hops really worked, being low alpha, and provided a little German pilsner backbone.
I think I will be experimenting with this beer further to come up with some pseudo lagers. Thanks Biermuncher.

 

[rrhoads]

Pics.

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[ericbw]

Here's a few pics of the latest batch with the 1.5 lbs of Viennna added. As you can tell, although still very light, It has a slight golden hue compared to most examples on here.
Very nice refreshing beer.
I think the 1.5 lbs of Vienna helped to balance the flavor of the corn, which I found a little cloying, with a little extra malt.
The Perle hops really worked, being low alpha, and provided a little German pilsner backbone.
I think I will be experimenting with this beer further to come up with some pseudo lagers. Thanks Biermuncher.

Did you add the Vienna or sub it in for some of something else?

 

[wtaylor3]

Think I have my mash profile messed up because sparging with 5.2 gals seems like an awful lot View attachment ImageUploadedByHome Brew1470502909.223179.jpg

 

[pstrohs]

Think I have my mash profile messed up because sparging with 5.2 gals seems like an awful lot View attachment 365176

What's the grain absorbsion on your system and what is your target boil volume?

 

[pstrohs]

Think I have my mash profile messed up because sparging with 5.2 gals seems like an awful lot View attachment 365176

What's the grain absorbsion on your system and what is your target boil volume?

 

[EDF713]

Just bottled a 5 gallon batch, hydro sample tasted great. I can't wait for it to carb up!View attachment ImageUploadedByHome Brew1470605030.826064.jpg

 

[wtaylor3]

What's the grain absorbsion on your system and what is your target boil volume?

Couldn't seem to find the grain absorbtion value on the mobile app

Tun loss is set at .25
Target boil volume is 6.79 gal


I did see one problem in the batch sparge profile it wants to fill the mash tun 90% to sparge and I have a 15 gal mash tun so perhaps that's the problem

The sparge step has always somewhat confused me as far as water volume calculations I guess I just got lucky for awhile but that luck has run out. Calculating mash vol I use the 1.25qt/lb method just am unaware of the formula for the batch sparge

 

[wtaylor3]

Picked up the grain last night aside from the minute rice, have to fill a propane tank and get this underway today

I'm really cutting it close because I want this on tap for some family from out of town that are coming on 8/20...looks like I'll be attempting a 24hr force carb

Doubt it'll be clear but as long as it tastes good it'll be alright. I've been on a hiatus from brewing for months so I'm hoping this one turns out and reignites my desire to brew as often as I was last year

 

[mongoose33]

Picked up the grain last night aside from the minute rice, have to fill a propane tank and get this underway today

I'm really cutting it close because I want this on tap for some family from out of town that are coming on 8/20...looks like I'll be attempting a 24hr force carb

Doubt it'll be clear but as long as it tastes good it'll be alright. I've been on a hiatus from brewing for months so I'm hoping this one turns out and reignites my desire to brew as often as I was last year

Please report how it goes. I brewed this Sunday and I'm anxious to see how it turns out. I need something a little less flavorful for guests for whom tasty beer is too intense.

Sure tasted good going into the fermenter.

 

[wtaylor3]

It's a great beer, I've brewed this a few times and it's a favorite over at my dads home bar where all the bmc drinkers hang out

but somewhere along the line I started getting batches of water basically

Didn't seem to matter which recipe and I've been trying to diagnose the problem I was blaming sparge water volume but now I'm thinking that the crush was the problem

I'm going to take notes, a ton of gravity readings and take my time to ensure that good beer is had by all in 11 days

 

[wtaylor3]

Calculated batch sparge volume, found my paint strainer bags and researched no sparge brewing all day,

in the end no sparge really intrigued me so I just doughed into 8.67 (ish) gallons of water we'll see how it goes