Couple pf carb questions

[cjtrask67]

Wo separate questions both related to carbonation from two different batches:

1) I did an iPa back in late march/ early April, batch turned out great and only have maybe 6 or so left. All of them had great carbonation. I put four of the last six in fridge Wednesday morning. I drank two Wednesday night and carbonation was perfect. I opened the other two today and they gushed. These are the only two in the batch that did that but they are the only two I left in the fridge for that long also. What caused this?

2) I brewed another batch a little while back and have been conditioned for about two weeks. I put one bottle in fridge the other day ( the bottle was only 3/4 full as it was last bottle filled and didn't have enough to fill it- figured it was a good one to test with). I poured it into a glass and it was perfect so I grabbed a couple full ones and chilled them. The full one are flat. Why? I know two weeks isn't long enough to fully carb just curious on why the 3/4 was and full ones weren't. Is it something to do with the volume?

Any input is appreciated on either issue

 

[BigSally]

Actually,all my beers are carbed enough in 2 weeks.I don't do many big beers,though.
I do get the occasional gusher but I've had those from commercial brews too(Dogzilla Black IPA)
Yesterday I had my first bottlebomb
I just use whatever beersmith says for priming sugar.



I didn't really help you did I?

 

[cjtrask67]

Lol not really but thanks for sharing your experience. I just don't get what's going on with there's two batches???

 

[cjtrask67]

And neither of Therese were big beers of on iPa was 1044 and Irish red was 1050

 

[gandalfiii]

As far as the 3/4 full bottle, it may have had more sediment since it was the last bottle from the bottom of the bucket. I've encountered that a number of times where the last bottle carbs up in like 3 days and the rest are still flat. As for the gushers, I don't know, but having them in the fridge a long time is unlikely to cause anything but cold goodness.

 

[Revvy]

1) If they were carbed fine, THEN they started to gush, then you have some sort of late onset infection occurring. You need to revisit your sanitzation practices AND make sure there's no biomatter lodged somewhere in your bottling setup.

2) The 3 weeks at 70 degrees, that we recommend is the minimum time it takes for average gravity beers to carbonate and condition. Higher grav beers take longer.

Stouts and porters have taken me between 6 and 8 weeks to carb up..I have a 1.090 Belgian strong that took three months to carb up.

And just because a beer is carbed doesn't mean it still doesn't taste like a$$ and need more time for the off flavors to condition out.

Everything you need to know about carbing and conditioning, can be found here Of Patience and Bottle Conditioning. With emphasis on the word, "patience."

 

[cjtrask67]

It is possible that it was a sanitation issue as the iPa was my first ever batch but remember I was very very cautious with sanitizing after hearing everyone's horror stories about infections. I just don't understand why I drank two of the four Wednesday with no issues and drank other two today and they gushed with the only difference is two days in fridge. Nothing else was wrong with them taste was still spot on. I just don't get it. Is it possible that I had an infection isolated to just two bottles?

 

[gandalfiii]

Is it possible that I had an infection isolated to just two bottles?

Sure it is. Or as stated, it could be a late onset that did not manifest itself until you got around to drinking those last two bottles.

 

[cjtrask67]

So it can onset two days apart? I guess I'll find out when iPhone the last two tomorrow

 

[cjtrask67]

I open the last two tomorrow not iPhone them damn auto correct

 

[BigSally]

And... you might not want to take advice from me.
If there was a Special Olympics of brewing,I probably wouldn't make the cut.

 

[Revvy]

You could have simply had an infection in 1 bottle....it's not uncommon when bottling to not have bottle perfectly rinsed and sanitized, and that one get infected. Or you could have had the entire batch infected but it didn't develop til tow days after the last bottle was fine..

 

[CBXBob]

I was thinking, wow there's an app for that?

 

[cjtrask67]

Yeah there is and I cove hbts app pass a lot of time at work with it

 

[homebrewdad]

You could have simply had an infection in 1 bottle....it's not uncommon when bottling to not have bottle perfectly rinsed and sanitized, and that one get infected. Or you could have had the entire batch infected but it didn't develop til tow days after the last bottle was fine..

Makes perfect sense. Something fell in a bottle or two that wasn't in the others. Voila!

Long term fridge storage *******, rather than encourages, gushing. This was not your issue.

 

[cjtrask67]

The other thing is with bottles is they were brand new as it was first batch I rinsed them all, soaked them in sanitizer for three minutes then returned them to box and immediately bottled and capped with sanitize caps that sat in sanitizer till they individually went on bottle. I really don't feel it was a sanitizing issue as I was very very cautious as it was my first batch.

 

[cjtrask67]

Drank last two out of batch yesterday and had no issues????

 

[Face Eater]

Well I don't know if this will help at all but I'm going to share anyways. So I have noticed that when my beers are laying down in the fridge both homebrews and even some commercial bottles I had a few gushers. The ones that were standing I had no issues. I thought I had some infected until my commercial beers did the same thing. Same thing for one of my friends also.

 

[cjtrask67]

I totally forgot about that until you said that. The two gushers my wife had moved and lauded on its side because she had gotten groceries. The rest of the bottles were stood up. So yes obviously I have my answer but does anyone know why this happens?

 

[Face Eater]

I thought that maybe the first time I moved the bottle to fast but it still does that some times when I move them slowly.