Commercial cider and TTB regs

[JudyP]

Is there anyone out there, in the business, that can help me answer a few questions concerning commercial hard cider production and TTB regulations about bottling and adding flavors? Thanks in advance for your help.

 

[Randzor]

What's ttb?

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[JudyP]

Shorthand for the " Alcohol and Tobaco Tax and Trade Bureau". It is the federal agency that regulates commercial production of wine, beer and spirits. I was hoping to find a commercial cider producer on the forum that could steer me in the right direction on these regs, specific to cider. Hope that answers your question.

 

[Randzor]

Yes don't forget about state regs. For example in Minnesota you can produce distribute and retail if your under a certisn gallon threshold.

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[Duganson]

I might be able to help Judy. What - in particular - are you wondering about?

 

[LeBreton]

For most purposes, cider = wine in the eyes of the TTB.

What's your specific question?

 

[JudyP]

LeBreton,
I wondered if the rules for adding flavors, extracts, botanicals etc. to cider was more relaxed than for wine? Is a formula approval necessary for instance?

 

[LeBreton]

I'd suggest contacting the TTB directly with any question, but as per my understanding, no, ciders do not need to submit a formula.

 

[Duganson]

LeBreton,
I wondered if the rules for adding flavors, extracts, botanicals etc. to cider was more relaxed than for wine? Is a formula approval necessary for instance?

If anything is added to your cider (wine) must other than sugar, water and acid expect to have to submit a formula. As LeBreton said, cider is considered wine in the eyes of the TTB.

 

[JudyP]

Thanks Duganson and LeBreton. I will call them directly and ask.