American Pale Ale Coldwater 420 - Special Pale Ale

[etcetrah]

The method I was using recommended using 5.5 quarts for the 4 pounds of grain, or 1.375 quarts/pound. This fits nicely in a two gallon beverage cooler, which is what I use for my partial mash.

Have fun!

 

[HenryKDuff]

Not having the CaraAroma isn't anything to worry about - I think you really only need it if you make an extract version. If you make All-Grain it comes out better if you cut way back on the CaraAroma anyway.

Feel free to scale back the recipe some if you want to - if you're going for duplicating/cloning SweetWater 420 this recipe is a bit bigger so there is room to scale back.

If you scale back or eliminate the CaraAroma, should you replace it with an equal amount of another grain, or just eliminate it?

 

[FATC1TY]

I'm brewing up an extract/steeped recipe of this today..

Has some Munich and 20L Carastan, and hopped with Cascade and Centennial, dry hopped with both of them as well. Using WY1056 as well.

Should come in around 1.052 and finish 1.014 for aroudn 5.2-ish ABV, which is reallll close to the real thing. 35 IBU's and 5.6 SRM.

 

[PiratesBeardBrewery]

If you scale back or eliminate the CaraAroma, should you replace it with an equal amount of another grain, or just eliminate it?

I'm interested in the answer to this one too. I would assume that eliminating it would scale it back from being such a "big" beer in comparison to the original, and maybe also tone down the ABV a bit.

Also, how did the experiment turn out for those that used the Centennial/Cascade combo? I also read somewhere else that some people thought the original used Simcoe, has anyone tried that?

 

[RTPMedic]

The recipe says 80 and 60 minute boils. Which one is correct? Brewing this tonight.


Primary: Pale Ale, Cider
Bottled: Cream Ale, American Brown Ale
Planned: Huge, huge Imperial Stout

 

[cublue]

Hi.
I have to first hand knowledge of the beer this is trying to clone, but it looked good and I brewed up a batch. Accidentally ended up with almost 6.5 gallons... Whoops!
Anyway...
My question is, has anyone dry hopped this at all? If so, just stick with the cascade?

Thanks!

 

[FATC1TY]

I dry hopped with cascade and centennial.

 

[ggoodman]

i'll be brewing this next weekend already brewed my ten gallons for this weekend. I lived 4 hour south of sweetwater for 20 years. love the beer and love trying to clone it. we'll be headed back down south and haft to fly out of Atlanta. will for sure be stopping by the brewery. GG for Alaska

 

[PiratesBeardBrewery]

I have 6 gallons of this kegged up (little over a week ago) and waiting for a taste test...can't wait.

It came in a little low in OG (wasn't quite sure of my AG efficiency) and I think I let the mash get a little too hot (~158) so it was a little less attenuable and it finished off with a FG of 1.022. ABV is pretty low but pre-carbonated taste tests show that it has that malty finish that I was going for.

 

[cublue]

I have 6 gallons of this kegged up (little over a week ago) and waiting for a taste test...can't wait.

It came in a little low in OG (wasn't quite sure of my AG efficiency) and I think I let the mash get a little too hot (~158) so it was a little less attenuable and it finished off with a FG of 1.022. ABV is pretty low but pre-carbonated taste tests show that it has that malty finish that I was going for.

Haha,
I had the opposite problem. I think I mashed to low. My favorite digital thermometer broke and all my others showed different temps from each other, so I kinda averaged it out. By my calculations....mine will be close to 7.5%!! But sample tastes good, so yeah me I guess!!

 

[brian70457]

Coldwater 420 - Special Pale Ale

This was originally supposed to be a clone of Sweetwater Brewery's 420 Extra Special Pale Ale, however I think my version comes out a lot better and tastier. I chose the name "Coldwater" because the city tap water where I live comes from the Coldwater aquifer ( Coldwater Alabama ) which supplies much of the name brand bottled water that you buy at the store if you live around the South - very tasty spring water, and also as you can see Coldwater sounds kind of like Sweetwater...

This is a really great beer, if you like Sweetwater 420 then I think this would be a beer that you'd really enjoy. Its not an exact clone, for one thing I think my version ends up with a little more alcohol than the real Sweetwater 420 since beers in Georgia and Alabama are limited to 6% ABV, using promash I estimate mine ends up about 6.5% and I also think that the malt is more pronounced in my version.

Regardless, it makes an extremely tastey beer and its an easy recipe that you'll enjoy.

SG: 1.065
FG: 1.012
Color SRM - 7.0
Bitterness: 45 IBUs

Here is the Recipe:

Malts:
7 1/2 Pounds - Pale Malt American 2-row, ( 1.036 - 2L ) - 65.2%
1 1/2 Pounds - Light Munich Malt ( 1.033 - 10L ) - 13%
1 1/2 Pounds - Vienna Malt ( 1.035 - 4L ) - 13%
1/2 Pound - CaraAroma ( 1.036 - 25L ) - 4.3%
1/2 Pounds - Cara-Pils Dextrine Malt ( 1.033 2-L ) # .5 - 4.3%

Hops:
1 ounce Cascade ( 5.75% Alpha ) @ 60 minutes
1.5 ounce Cascade ( 5.75% Alpha ) @ 30 minutes
.5 ounce Cascade ( 5.75% Alpha ) @ 5 minutes

Yeast:
Fermentis Safale US-05

Heat 3.5-4 gallons of water to 165F, or hot enough to bring the mash to 153F. Mash at 153F for 80 minutes, then drain. Sparge with 4.5-5 gallons of water at 170F, to collect 7.5-8 gallons of wort.

Bring wort to a rolling boil and add the hops according to the schedule.

Chill wort to 70F and pitch 1 envelope US-05.

Ferment in Primary at 60-65F, for about 8 days or until gravity drops to 1.012. Rack to secondary and let it clear for another 7 days, or add 1 envelope of unflavored gelatin disolved in boiling water to the secondary and it will clear in about 2 days instead. Keg it or Bottle as usual, with 5 oz of priming sugar.

One thing to note, I make no attempt at all to strain the hops from the wort when going from the brew pot to the fermenter. I only try and filter the beer when I rack from the primary to the secondary and I rely on the gelatin in the secondary to clear the beer. So far, I'm very pleased with how clear it gets.

Apologies for being newb, if this a All-Grain recipe? It looks like an extract+steep recipe which is what I'm looking for.

Just making sure.

 

[cublue]

This is an all grain. You could probably convert the American 2 row to lme or dme. Not sure how much, but there is a conversion. It'll cost significantly more, and may be darker, but it can be done...

 

[Mutilated1]

It is all grain, but it wouldn't be hard to make it extract. In fact, the basic recipe that I started with was extract+grains, I just converted it to all grain and brewed it over a few times to get it right.

 

[brian70457]

Do you have the extract+grain recipe?
I found another one on hopville which is different,
( http://hopville.com/recipe/637534 )
but I hear from y'all that this is a very good clone.

Just let me know, thanks for the responses.

 

[cublue]

Hey mutilated,
Thanks. This is excellent. My favorite homebrew so far! I dry hopped with a little less than an ounce of cascade. Very good, even though I cannot compare to original...

 

[FATC1TY]

I have an extract / steeping grain recipe for this, that is extremely close. It's only darker in color, and it's because I didn't do late extract additions, could be lighter if I tried.


Turned out nicely. I'll post it when I get home this evening.

 

[PiratesBeardBrewery]

Despite doughing in a little hot resulting in more unfermentable sugars than I wanted, this turned out great. Mine came out darker than the original Sweetwater, but the maltiness is definitely there (which is the main quality that I was going for) and very well balanced just like Sweetwater. The head retention is phenomenal since I left the Carapils in there. Very happy with this recipe and I think this will become my house beer that I always have kegged.

 

[royale]

I was being told that Sweetwater uses Wyeast 1098 for all their beers.

 

[jaynik]

This recipe sounds great. I'm going to modify the hop schedule to use up some hops that I have around.

.5 CTZ @ 60
1 Palisade @ 10
1 Calypso @ 0

I think it should be interesting. Thought about throwing in some cascade, but I like the idea of letting the palisade and calypso do their thing in this beer. Anyone with much experience from both have any recommendations? This grain bill sounds really good.

 

[cublue]

This recipe sounds great. I'm going to modify the hop schedule to use up some hops that I have around.

.5 CTZ @ 60
1 Palisade @ 10
1 Calypso @ 0

I think it should be interesting. Thought about throwing in some cascade, but I like the idea of letting the palisade and calypso do their thing in this beer. Anyone with much experience from both have any recommendations? This grain bill sounds really good.

I made this beer, and will have to again. It is the best beer I have ever made. Make this!
But, to be honest I followed the OP recipe, except I dry hopped with a half ounce of cascade pellets. Gave it a very nice nose if I do say so myself. I have never used palisades or calypso, so I can't speak to your hops, but the grain bill wonderful. I can't imagine a well thought out hop combination not working with this.

 

[cublue]

Oh, but I should add that IMHO, I cannot imagine this without cascades, but I am sure your beer will be great without it.

 

[jaynik]

I definitely love cascade but am looking to use up these hops. Hoping I don't regret the sub. I can always brew it again with cascades as I have them on hand too.

 

[cublue]

Well, keep us posted. I love cascades too, but getting burnt out on them. Would love to change it up and keep this grain bill. As I have posted before, I have never had the sweetwater, so can't speak to the accuracy of the clone. So I am not concerned about being true to the original. But it makes a Damn fine pale that I will use a a base for other pales or ipas, so your experiments are of interest to me !

 

[chilton82]

The last time I made this, my second attempt, turned out Awesome! I'm drinking a beer right now, bottled from keg, over 100 days ago and I'm in love. I had a couple sitting around and after having this tonight I'm ready to brew another lighter beer.

Here's my recipe:

Sweetwater part deux

Dingemans aromatic malt
Strong malt lb -20 - .5 oz

Dingemans Pilsen malt
LB 1.2 - .5 oz

Steep 30 mins

6 lb DME extra light

Centennial Type - 1 oz - 60 mins
Cascade - 1.5 oz - 30 mins
Cascade - 1.5 oz - 5 mins

OG 1.055

Safale S-05 gen 2

Kegged 11/29
FG 1.012

ABV 5.7%


I think I'm going to bring it back but all grain this weekend.

 

[dingalls8]

The last time I made this, my second attempt, turned out Awesome! I'm drinking a beer right now, bottled from keg, over 100 days ago and I'm in love. I had a couple sitting around and after having this tonight I'm ready to brew another lighter beer.

Here's my recipe:

Sweetwater part deux

Dingemans aromatic malt
Strong malt lb -20 - .5 oz

Dingemans Pilsen malt
LB 1.2 - .5 oz

Steep 30 mins

6 lb DME extra light

Centennial Type - 1 oz - 60 mins
Cascade - 1.5 oz - 30 mins
Cascade - 1.5 oz - 5 mins

OG 1.055

Safale S-05 gen 2

Kegged 11/29
FG 1.012

ABV 5.7%


I think I'm going to bring it back but all grain this weekend.

Newb here... is this an extract/ steep method? I've been looking around for a good extract + steep for Sweetwater 420. Thanks for any help!

 

[BumbleBeeBeer]

So I made a PM/extract version of this totally off the wall.

But it tastes JUST like 420. Here it is

5lbs Pils DME

10oz Munich
6oz Crystal 20l
8oz Carapils


60 minute boil
1oz magnum

20 minutes left
1oz cascade

10minutes left
1oz cascade

Yeast
wyeast 1028 london ale

Let it sit in the fermenter at about 68 degrees for 3 weeks, kegged it and drank it all gone in about a week O.O

 

[241]

I've really been wanting to make this one as I can't get 420 often down here in Southern CA. I think my girlfriend would kill me if I made another Pale Ale right now though haha *bookmarked*

 

[rockdemon]

I made an attempt at this. Sweetwater 420 is my favourite pale ale but i cant get a hold of it in sweden. Tried the coldwater 420 yeaterday and i mustve made some misstakes. First of it was sweet. And secondly the color was off. I get that problem with all my beers. They get this ugly brown color. Why is this?
My OG was 60 and FG was 10 after 17 days primary.

 

[catdaddy66]

This may be what my next brew day will produce! I love me some 420 and just got some more 2-row. Now I just need the Munich, et al (I have the hops and yeast already) from the LHBS and, BOOM! Tasty brew for me and you... Lol


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[Goolsbymd]

I got a friend thats in town for 3 months and he loves 420, anyone brew the AG version and how did it turn out?