Chillus Convolutus vs Therminator?

[Boerderij_Kabouter]

Assuming you keep a turbulent flow in both the coil (check) and the bulk area (check, with your stirrer) the efficiency will be very good. In my system, with the second IC, I have more surface area than the Therminator but none of hte head aches (IMHO).

 

[Irrenarzt]

When I was actually using my therminator (I retired it) I had some luck using a SS braid in the kettle. I eventually got worried about contamination and now its sitting useless in my garage too heavy to effectively sell and ship.

Priority Mail flat rate medium box FTW

 

[The Pol]

My only question is...

With 40 pounds of ice and 4 gallons of water to start with, can I even drop the coil and stirrer into my HLT... hrmmmmmmmm That may be too CHUNKY to drop it through. I need to test THAT first.

 

[the_bird]

Priority Mail flat rate medium box FTW

Yup. You want to sell it?

 

[Boerderij_Kabouter]

Maybe put the IC in first???

 

[The Pol]

Maybe put the IC in first???

It is attached to the lid... for my HERMS

 

[harley03]

Here is a chiller/heater I am going to use in my E-HERMS system. Shoulld be able to get from boiling temp to around 70 degrees by the time the beer makes it way to the end. Basically it operates like a counterflow.

 

[The Pol]

That wont fit in my garage

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

Until I brew again, and clog that one

I dont know if my SS scrubby is up to the task of keeping this stuff out of a plate chiller... wish I could borrow one to see!

Youre gonna need more than a scrubby.

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

I use pellet... I can bag them... but... will the break material break me??

My normal protocol is bagged pellet and recirculated kettle. Break and all.

I haven't plugged my Chill wizard yet. Chill wizard = March pump driven Therminator with inline oxygenation stone.

 

[The Pol]

Before I spend ANY money, I am testing the use of my HERMS coil to recirculate my wort through my HLT filled with the ICE cooling fluid.

My HERMS coil has 7.3' of surface, so it may work.

 

[The Pol]

Closed system cooling WORKS, here are some numbers:

5.5 gallons BOILING
4.0 gallons 65F water and 44 pounds of ICE

5 minutes in:
COOLING WATER TEMP 50F
KETTLE TEMP 148F

10 minutes in:
COOLING WATER TEMP 54F
KETTLE TEMP 99F

15 minutes in:
COOLING WATER TEMP 52F
KETTLE TEMP 81F

20 minutes in:
COOLING WATER TEMP 50F
KETTLE TEMP 66F

25 minutes in:
COOLING WATER TEMP 48F
KETTLE TEMP 57F

30 minutes in:
COOLING WATER TEMP 48F
KETTLE TEMP 57F

 

[Boerderij_Kabouter]

That is awesome! And that was just with your HERMS? I would say that is proof of concept, now you can reduce the time if you desire, or spend you cash on something else!

Coolumb. I am glad you tried this, I think it will be in my future as well once I get my battle-station fully operational.

 

[Beermaker]

I have them both and I prefer the Therminator. But it will plug if you dont whirlpool before chilling.

 

[The Pol]

That is awesome! And that was just with your HERMS? I would say that is proof of concept, now you can reduce the time if you desire, or spend you cash on something else!

Coolumb. I am glad you tried this, I think it will be in my future as well once I get my battle-station fully operational.

Yes, this ONLY utilized my HERMS coil for cooling. 25 minutes to 57F