Chat gpt

[sean03]

I've recently been playing with chat gpt, so this afternoon we were talking about cider recipes. After a bit of back and forth it came up with this, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on what it came up with seeing as my first attempt is well under way and I'm already researching a different recipe for batch number 2

Turbo Cider with Ribena – Recipe Card​

Ingredients (for ~7.75 L batch)​

• 7 L Apple Juice (100% pure, carton is fine)
• 750 ml Ribena (full sugar cordial)
• 1 Sachet Cider or Wine Yeast
• (Optional) 250 g sugar → boosts ABV by ~+1.8%
• Sanitiser (very important!)

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Equipment​

• 1 × 1-gallon demijohn or 10 L fermenter with airlock
• Siphon tube
• Hydrometer (optional, for ABV check)
• Bottles & caps (or swing-tops)

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Method​

1. Sanitise everything.
2. Add 7 L apple juice + 750 ml Ribena to fermenter.
3. (Optional) Dissolve sugar in warm juice, add in.
4. Stir well. Take OG reading (≈ 1.049–1.050).
5. Pitch yeast, fit airlock.

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Fermentation Timeline​

• Day 1–3: Vigorous bubbling, foamy head.
• Day 4–7: Slower bubbling, cider clears from the top.
• Day 8–10: Fermentation finishing. Hydrometer should read ~0.998.
• Day 11–14: Rack off sediment. Bottle.

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Bottling Options​

• Still: Bottle as is.
• Fizzy: Add ½ tsp sugar per 500 ml bottle, cap, leave 1–2 weeks warm.
• Sweet:
  • Add Ribena/apple juice in the glass (easiest & safest), OR
  • Stabilise with Campden + sorbate, then sweeten & bottle.

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Final Stats​

• OG: ~1.049
• FG: ~0.998
• ABV: ~6.7% (≈8.5% if 250 g sugar added)

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[Plasticmetal]

• You wont fit 7.5L of liquid into a 1 gallon carboy
• OG will very likely be above 1.050. I'd bet money on it.
• 1/2 tsp of sugar per bottle may or my not be the correct amount. The consequences for it being incorrect can very easily injure you. Verify this ratio elsewhere and understand what it is you're accomplishing with this step.

Base concept isn't bad by itself - If it were me I'd probably start by using the soda as a back-sweetening agent and seeing how that goes before trying a batch with it in primary. Best way to do that is ferment a batch and then use it bench test different ratios of soda. Or you could just dump a whole bottle in a see what happens - nothing wrong with doing that, you just might get a profile that's different than what you want.

Regardless of what you end up doing it's important you understand that ChatGPT is setting you up for failure if you follow this to the letter. My advise if to use AI as an adviser but to NEVER base your ingredient ratios off it and ALWAYS verify with your own math and measurements.

 

[sean03]

No, that bit was definitely wrong, luckily mine is a 10ltr and thank you for the reply

 

[beren]

My apple juice is almost always right at 1.05. Also be careful which yeast and temps you use. Don’t use d48.

And there’s so many good and easy cider recipes to pick from, it’s backwards to ask ChatGPT. Explore.

You’ll also need yeast nutrient or at least boiled bakers yeast.

Here’s the type of thing you can find from doing your own research: https://www.thehomebrewforum.co.uk/threads/supermarket-juice-wine-how-to-guide-and-recipes.49462/

 

[sean03]

Thank you for the replies and thank you for the link to the recipes page

 

[fluketamer]

do this instead:
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/threads/grahams-english-cider.107152/

and add ribena but the yeast will likely strip out most of the ribena flavor.

consider bottling with ribena instead for more flavor. i would use PET bottles though to avoid possible injury.