American Pale Ale Cascades / Orange Pale Ale

[The Pol]

Well? It is friggin AWESOME!

 

[blacklab]

Hell yeah! Just cracked one. About to watch the Oregon St. Beavers Rose Bowl hopes go up in flames!

EDIT: or perhaps next week.

 

[BullF-16]

is the orange zest fresh grated or prepackaged.

 

[blacklab]

I used pre-packaged stuff that I bought at the LHBS. It comes in 2 oz packs and is called 'Sweet Orange Zest'.

 

[BullF-16]

I used pre-packaged stuff that I bought at the LHBS. It comes in 2 oz packs and is called 'Sweet Orange Zest'.

Thanks, will be making this soon.

 

[humann_brewing]

I plan on brewing this tonight and will be my 2nd AG. Wish me luck.

Curious if you hydrated the yeast for this too?

Also, the following calculator: Mr Malty Pitching Rate Calculator
Calls for only 1 11.5 gram package. What is pitching 2 of them going to do? Ferment faster? Am I going to have to work about blow off from the vigorous fermentation?

 

[The Pol]

I rehydrated the yeast in 85F water for 30 mins prior to pitching. You only need one packet of yeast... dry yeast packets pack a HIGH cell count anyway, great for a 5 gallon batch.

 

[humann_brewing]

I rehydrated the yeast in 85F water for 30 mins prior to pitching. You only need one packet of yeast... dry yeast packets pack a HIGH cell count anyway, great for a 5 gallon batch.

Thanks for the information, I was almost pitching the yeast when you wrote this actually. I just followed the directions on the package, they just said to throw it in with the wort. The wort was about 74 degrees at the time, so that should have warmed it up. I kept the window cracked overnight to cool the room down to 61, so the wort was at 68 this morning and slowing bubbling 8 hours later. I also only used one package. I figured I could always throw in the second at a later time if I wanted, maybe the secondary, probably not necessary though.

 

[blacklab]

I've never re-hydrated, so I'm not sure what the effect is. I pitch two packs because my pro brewer buddy says they always massively overpitch. But it's totally not necessary. I hope this beer turns out well for you! I need to get some more in the pipeline!

 

[The Pol]

I've never re-hydrated, so I'm not sure what the effect is. I pitch two packs because my pro brewer buddy says they always massively overpitch. But it's totally not necessary. I hope this beer turns out well for you! I need to get some more in the pipeline!

I am back from Mexico and getting crunk... so, anyway, I ALWAYS rehydrate, ALWAYS, if you don't, well... words cannot explain what you may be in for!

 

[humann_brewing]

I am back from Mexico and getting crunk... so, anyway, I ALWAYS rehydrate, ALWAYS, if you don't, well... words cannot explain what you may be in for!

Whoops I guess I will find out what I am in for. I think it will be ok, I have another package that I could always hydrate and throw in if things don't go well.

 

[The Pol]

Whoops I guess I will find out what I am in for. I think it will be ok, I have another package that I could always hydrate and throw in if things don't go well.

PSSSST, the smiley face means I am BS'ing ya... you shall be fine.

 

[humann_brewing]

PSSSST, the smiley face means I am BS'ing ya... you shall be fine.

Yeah, I should have noticed that, my mind has just learned to ignore those I guess.

I am hoping to see some nice krauzen when I get home at any rate.

 

[blacklab]

I am back from Mexico and getting crunk... so, anyway, I ALWAYS rehydrate, ALWAYS, if you don't, well... words cannot explain what you may be in for!

Yeah, you're in for a big headache if not!

 

[humann_brewing]

Yeah, you're in for a big headache if not!

Well, here is what happens if you don't hydrate your yeast.

It is the one on the right by the way. My Apfelwein is not starting off so fast because the yeast said to hydrate and I didn't because I thought who needs to read directions

 

[blacklab]

Well, here is what happens if you don't hydrate your yeast.

It is the one on the right by the way. My Apfelwein is not starting off so fast because the yeast said to hydrate and I didn't because I thought who needs to read directions

Lookin' good! My Orange batches always take off like a rocket, too.

 

[planenut]

This is going to be my next batch but I have a question..

I like hops and IPA's. It seems like there is more hops here than in my last IPA. Just how hoppy is this?

Will Blue Moon drinkers like this when they visit or will it be way to much for them?

Did I mention I'm gonna make it anyway... for me!

 

[humann_brewing]

This is going to be my next batch but I have a question..

I like hops and IPA's. It seems like there is more hops here than in my last IPA. Just how hoppy is this?

Will Blue Moon drinkers like this when they visit or will it be way to much for them?

Did I mention I'm gonna make it anyway... for me!

This beer uses all Cascade hops which have a medium range AA. Also only an ounce is put in while gathering your wort which is where most of the IBUs come from. The rest of the hops are added with 10, 5, and 1 minute left which add significantly less IBU power than at first wort or at the first boil. Adding hops to secondary doesn't add any IBUs either.

So this beer is well within in the APA range of IBUs.

As far as blue moon drinkers, this will have a more hoppy taste that it, can't say anything about the fruity taste as I have not tasted it yet. I can say that the airlock smells great!!!

 

[planenut]

I got everything from my LHBS except for US-04. They were out so I got US-05.

How much difference will that make or should I wait until Tuesday to brew so my son can bring me some 04 from the LHBS up by him.

 

[blacklab]

humann's got it right. There are a lot of Cascades in this recipe but the majority are extremely late in the boil or dryhopped. Late additions contribute hop aroma and character, not bitterness.

I've done this with 05 as well - should be fine. 05 is the classic american west coast, clean finish style yeast, and 04 is more english ale style with a bit more maltiness retained in the final product. Let us know how it turns out!

 

[planenut]

My son is going to pick me up a pack or two of 04 on his way home from Clemson on Tuesday. I'm excited about brewing this with my son on Wednesday...

I can always experiment later but I want the first batch to be "per the recipe"...

 

[The Pol]

Per the recipe, it rocks... has to be the best APA I have ever tasted.:rockin:

 

[planenut]

Thanks to Blacklab and The Pol. I can't wait to try this recipe, it just sounds so tasty!

 

[The Pol]

You are welcome

 

[planenut]

Brewed it today! It will be hard to wait 4 weeks...

I had a little problem early in the boil. I had used a muslin bag for the FWH addition. I installed a new hop bag in my hop strainer and once the boil started I felt the need to open the muslin bag and drop the hops in the regular hop strainer. Well apparently the new bag had a courser mesh and most of the the hops made it into the wort. I used a metal strainer and fine mesh bag to get most of the hops off the top. The question is how much of the hops were already absorbed into the wort? I wasn't quite sure what to do so I added .50 oz of hops for the 60 minute boil. So it ended up with the 1 oz FWH but then removed after the 45 minutes or so sparging, .50 for 60 minutes and then the regular 10, 5, 1 minute additions.. Not sure how the IBU's and bittering will change.

Thanks

 

[blacklab]

I'm not sure I totally follow you, but I wouldn't worry about it too much. Glad you guys are liking the beer!

 

[planenut]

Sorry I guess I rambled a bit..

I used 1 oz of FWH hops which were there throughout the 45 min fly sparge.

As I heated the wort to a boil, I removed the FWH hops from the small nylon hop bag and placed them in the DIY hop strainer that I made out of PVC and a paint strainer like you've seen here on HBT. The new stainer allowed the hops to leak out into the wort so I managed to scoop up much of them with a strainer bag. End result, Most of the FWH hops were removed before the boil.

I added .50 oz more to replace those strained out.

Maybe the removed hops had already been absorbed into the wort and the .5 oz is additional for a bigger IBU. Or mabye they had done little without boiling water and the .5 oz falls short of the recommended IBU's.

Not sure how this will effect the IBU's since I removed most of the FWH before the boil and replaced them .5 oz unused cascades.

Not really a big deal and I'm not worried.. I'm really just curious if the bitterness will be higher or lower than the original recipe.

Thanks for listening. :rockin:

 

[humann_brewing]

I have this beer in the secondary with some cascades. I am worried though because I was using a brew belt to warm it up a bit and forgot about it and it was on for like a day with a sweatshirt over it too.

The bucket was pretty warm and even some condensation you can see through the lid.

I know the fermentation was pretty much over, but do you think I will be alright if the temp got up there really high? It could have been in the 80s or who knows, maybe 90s. I don't have a thermometer on this bucket.

This happened after 11 days of fermenting, the gravity was as low as it would have gone I think.

 

[The Pol]

The yeast should have been pretty much done at that point... I am sure you are fine

 

[Eves]

Due to a variety of reasons I'm strictly an extract brewer. Is there something that can be substituted for the vienna malt if just doing an extract brew? Or can vienna malt just be steeped like crystal?