American Pale Ale Cascades / Orange Pale Ale

[BandonBrewingCo]

Turned out prety good. Here she is about 1 month post-bottling.

Nice Orange nose, orange aftertaste. Cascade comes in nicely.

Great recipe !

Can you remember roughly how many oranges you needed to peel to get the 2oz/60g for this?

 

[MrBlackrock]

Can you remember roughly how many oranges you needed to peel to get the 2oz/60g for this?

Not sure. I think it was like 6 Costco ones

 

[BandonBrewingCo]

Brewed it 11.08.2018 with Notty which only set my blow off tube (fermenting in a corny) bubbling this morning, so 48-60 hours. This supposedly is not unusual for Notty.

I only had coriander powder so I just added 10g instead of 30g of that to be on the safe side. Will report back in about 6 weeks time (bottling) but the wort tasted really good!

 

[TechFanMD]

I brewed this 1.5 weeks ago. Here are the minor differences in how I brewed it, all else is to the original recipe for the all-grain batch, including a mash of 155F.

I peeled the skin from an orange using a very good/sharp vegetable peeler and carefully avoided getting any of the white part. I was able to pretty much get one, long, continuous coil per orange so didn't have a bunch of zest to clog everything up.

For the orange: I just went to the grocery store and picked the orange type that actually smelled like orange (a lot had no smell) then washed it with a bit of hot water and rubbing to be sure any waxy/oily preservative coatings were washed off (I think these may harm head retention).

I put the coriander in a zip-lock bag and ran a rolling pin over it until I was satisfied in the crush.

Yeast: Only a single pack of US-05. For a 5 gallon batch of beer of this OG I don't see a reason for more than 1 pack (though may try the combo of 04 and 05 next time to see what the difference is).

The beer was finished fermenting in 5 days, and had held steady at the 6th day. I dry-hopped at Day 6. OG: 1.053 FG 1.013 (never had one finish so close to expected, though I did do a water top up to bring my OG down from 1.064)

Day 8 I placed the fermenter in the fridge and cold crashed to 34F for 24hours then added Gelatin for just less than 2 days before transferring to the keg. I pressurized to 40psi for 28hrs @ ~38F

Now on day 12: I understand it is young, but I like my IPAs very young. I can't say for sure that I can taste the coriander, but it does seem to be noticeable in the aroma as a bit of pepperiness. I definitely cannot taste the orange, but it also leaves a bit of aroma.

As is, it is very good and could be a House beer here, and be very drinkable even for some more adventurous BMC drinkers. For me this would be a great lawnmower/pool beer.

What I'll try next time:
-More orange peel. With the fresh orange peel, even though I had 4x the amount of fresh peel compared to the dry peel called for, I would do 16oz fresh peel using the method I used.
-May leave out the coriander: I don't have a place to get coriander seeds cheap, so this added $6 to the beer and I just don't notice it that much. If I find it cheaper I'll definitely use it though.
-More dry hops: I may shoot for more hop aromas, especially since my kegging and clearing regimen may decrease hop aromas.

What is interesting to me (and wish people posted more photos of their beer) is the differences in color and clarity people get. That's what makes homebrewing so cool - even with the same recipe - there is always a difference in equipment and technique that still turn out different beers.

 

[BandonBrewingCo]

Brewed it 11.08.2018 with Notty which only set my blow off tube (fermenting in a corny) bubbling this morning, so 48-60 hours. This supposedly is not unusual for Notty.

I only had coriander powder so I just added 10g instead of 30g of that to be on the safe side. Will report back in about 6 weeks time (bottling) but the wort tasted really good!

This is now my house pale ale. Finished off the last few bottles last night. Big hit with everyone. I must agree with pretty much eerything in the post directly before this one but I get coriander seeds cheap from an asian grocery store so I'll just toast em and bash em for the nex time. Oh, and next time I'll take a photo!

 

[James86]

Here's a picture of of a pretty similar recipe to this that I brewed at a local brewpub here in China. I added just a touch extra Vienna and Caramel and mashed higher. And used esb yeast so it had a bit more body s it finished up at 018.

 

[Soulshine2]

Gonna have to pencil this one into the schedule Probably with some US 2 row as appsosed to the Maris Otter.

How would I go about crushing the corrainder without a mortar/pestle??.....lol I feel like a medivel alchemist :rockin:

Ive crushed it before...I used an adjustable pepper mill ,works great.

 

[BandonBrewingCo]

Another way is to put it in a zip lock bag and bate the ***** out of it ;-)

 

[fendersrule]

I did the partial mash version and I wasn't too thrilled with my OG. I came out at 1.052, and that's with .7LB of table suger that I poured into the wort ~10 min left of the boil.

If I knew this, I would have used possibly 4lbs of DME, 3lbs doesn't seem to be enough.

I added yet more table sugar (about .4lb) end of boil to get the OG up to a healthy 1.055.

I mashed at 150-153F. I kept mashing temps a just a tad lower because I didn't want a malty beer, but a very clean tasting pale ale.

Hoping that this one does finish low, otherwise I'll be stuck with a ~5.2%er. My target ABV was a 6.25%, but hoping now for a 5.91%.

It's probably going to taste really good. I'm fermenting at 62F with the S-04. I think 2 packs of yeast is overkill. The next morning it was pretty much fermenting at 85% peak...only after 8 hours. I would recommend 1 pack of yeast, or if you're double batching like I am, 1.5 packs per each carboy. 2 packs just seems overkill for a ~6% beer, especially with US-04 that just seems to be more on the aggressive side.

Thinking of dry hopping with 2Oz of cascade. But I'm also thinking on not dry hoping because it's probably already going to smell really nice.

 

[Shenanigans]

This was one of the first beers I brewed about 5 years ago. I did a mix of Citra and Cascade as I didn't have so much Cascade. Can't remember that it turned out particularly good. I'll brew it again soon with all cascade and M36 yeast. Should hopefully turn out better also because I have 5 years more experience behind me. Think I was storing my hops in the fridge back then but now I vacuum and freeze. It also ended up being over carbed, a problem which I still have from time to time.

 

[TechFanMD]

This was one of the first beers I brewed about 5 years ago. I did a mix of Citra and Cascade as I didn't have so much Cascade. Can't remember that it turned out particularly good. I'll brew it again soon with all cascade and M36 yeast. Should hopefully turn out better also because I have 5 years more experience behind me. Think I was storing my hops in the fridge back then but now I vacuum and freeze. It also ended up being over carbed, a problem which I still have from time to time.

I’ve brewed this 3 times among other beers (many) and each time I brewed it I liked it less - I’m starting to think it just isn’t that great of a beer really. I’d like to ‘fix’ it, but personally I have moved on.

 

[SirHC_]

I’ve brewed this 3 times among other beers (many) and each time I brewed it I liked it less - I’m starting to think it just isn’t that great of a beer really. I’d like to ‘fix’ it, but personally I have moved on.

I wonder if a change in your palate isn't more likely? For me, even w consistent commercial brews, my tastes change year to year. For a long time Bells Two- hearted ale was my go to, but I bored with it in favor of hoppier IPA examples. And then I came back to it after awhile and really loved it again. Until I got tired of hoppy everything and swung towards the malty end of beer. Belgian dubbel and brown ale we're the bees knees for a while. Last summer I came back to 2hearted and loved it again...
IDK, just a thought.
This recipe is on my list for this summer...

 

[Persevalli]

Great brew! Not expensive, simple, easy, quick and delicious! Next time for my taste a little less coriander and perhaps a little more late cascades.
Wife loved.

 

[Beeru]

"2 ea Fermentis S-04 Safale S-04"

Did you really add 4 packs of yeast to a medium gravity pale ale?

 

[blacklabsghost]

"2 ea Fermentis S-04 Safale S-04"

Did you really add 4 packs of yeast to a medium gravity pale ale?

2 in the beer and 2 for your mom