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So my last batch I used a little more sugar than called for in the recipe and I used a full teaspoon of cinnamon extract. I also used two packets of Nottingham as it didn't look like the first packet was doing much. :)
I kegged it last week and had some left over that I put in a gallon juice jug and I had a glass of it last night. Seemed to be a little "hot" but I'm not sure if that's alcohol heat or from using double the cinnamon extract.
 
I started this with 5 gallons of store bought cider 2 lbs light brown sugar and about 1 cup of yeast slurry from an IPA I bottled. We'll see how it turns out. Kinda just wanted to do a cheap and easy experiment.


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I made a gallon batch of this... with tweaks of my own. And just before bottling, the taster was lovely. Would be nice as a still cider as well. I might have to make a bit more of this, that's for sure! Thanks!!
 
Gonna bottle tomorrow....OG was 1.076.....FG is 1.002...9.71 ABV. This is gonna be a rockin cider. Used the WL English Cider Yeast...flavor is incredible even without the back sweetin! Clarity is awesome!

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First cider so I have a few questions. But first some adaptations I made:

Used brown sugar instead of dextrose
Used a cider yeast(dry but I can't remember which)
Left in primary for 3 weeks to a FG of 0.99
Been in secondary for 4 weeks.

So...

1) With the campden and potassium sulfate, should I add direct or put into a soluble solution.

2). Since it went so dry, and I want it fairly sweet, should I add 4 Fajc of stick with 3)

3) when ready to keg, how long would you keep it on 30psi to get proper carbonation?

Any help us greatly appreciated. Can't wait to try it.


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So I'm getting ready to bottle (and subsequently paseurize) and I'm thinking of using just 2 cans of concentrate and the syrup. Has anyone else done this? How were your results? How long did it take to carb?

I don't want it too sweet, but I do want some apple flavor, which seems to be gone from the few samples I've taken.


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It depends on what yeast (ale, wine or cider) is used and how far you let it go down.

I've got a batch of this right now on which I used Nottingham and stopped it at 1.006 by moving into the cold crash (35*F). I plan to keg it, use K-sorbate and serve it still. I'll start with the syrup and two cans of FCAJ. If it needs the third can, it'll be a simple matter to add it.
 
So I'm getting ready to bottle (and subsequently paseurize) and I'm thinking of using just 2 cans of concentrate and the syrup. Has anyone else done this? How were your results? How long did it take to carb?

I don't want it too sweet, but I do want some apple flavor, which seems to be gone from the few samples I've taken.


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Ive let 3 batches go all the way down, with Nottingham, to bout 0.996ish. Then Ive tried adding the syrup and 3,4,or 5 cans. 5 seems to br the sweet spot. I mean, yes, its sweet, but I havnt served it to a girl who didnt like it. Jus sayin ;)


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So I'm getting ready to bottle (and subsequently paseurize) and I'm thinking of using just 2 cans of concentrate and the syrup. Has anyone else done this? How were your results? How long did it take to carb?

I don't want it too sweet, but I do want some apple flavor, which seems to be gone from the few samples I've taken.


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I did 2 cans and syrup on my last one. It's right where I want it, basically, and received very positive feedback from the HB Club members during our last meeting. It didn't carb in the bottles as I would have liked, but it's still good!
 
I did 2 cans and syrup on my last one. It's right where I want it, basically, and received very positive feedback from the HB Club members during our last meeting. It didn't carb in the bottles as I would have liked, but it's still good!


Do you mean it didn't carb at all? Or not as much as you would have liked?


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So how long does this take to carb in the bottles on average. I'm going out of town in about ten days and plan to bottle tomorrow. I'd like to pasteurize before I leave and have them fully carbed.


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I'm only planning on using 2-3 cans of concentrate, and the syrup. But I assume that 3-4 days still stands


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I pasteurized in 4 days. Girls want to buy all of this fully backsweetened batch barely carbed up. I can't wait to see the difference with modified recipe fully carbed as my second cider batch.

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I'm only planning on using 2-3 cans of concentrate, and the syrup. But I assume that 3-4 days still stands


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I gave mine 5...but because the temp was lower than usual in my basement it didn't carb as quickly. So, 3-4 may work but it will depend on the temp.
 
So how long does this take to carb in the bottles on average. I'm going out of town in about ten days and plan to bottle tomorrow. I'd like to pasteurize before I leave and have them fully carbed.

If you bottle this and wait 10 days before pasteurizing, you will have bottlebombs.
 
I don't plan to wait ten days, just wanted to make sure I had adequate time. Thanks for all the responses. I appreciate them.


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Should I chill a bottle down before testing carbonation (put it in the freezer for 30-45 min)?


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Does anyone have video or can post a link to video of bottle bombs detonating??


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Youtube has a lot of them. There's one where a guy dumped his batch of cider :( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioEKTBwbDEw

I saw one before my first experience but wasn't able to find it - a dude had a batch sitting on his washer/dryer and they were just popping away.

I had one go about 2 feet from me of an OLD batch of cider (not mike's). It startled me but didn't cause any damage luckily.
 
Bottled yesterday. I think the first few bottles go more concentrate than the rest. Might have to pasteurize them tomorrow.


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Youtube has a lot of them. There's one where a guy dumped his batch of cider :( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioEKTBwbDEw

I saw one before my first experience but wasn't able to find it - a dude had a batch sitting on his washer/dryer and they were just popping away.

I had one go about 2 feet from me of an OLD batch of cider (not mike's). It startled me but didn't cause any damage luckily.

I would categorise those as "gushers" that would definitely turn into bottle bombs if you tried pasteurizing them. In a bottle bomb you would have the bottle or cap fail and break.
 
Those are gushers. Sad to see really. I had a batch that did slight overcarb before it hit the fridge. Jus had to pour it into a large glass before it went on the table and let it settle. Very drinkable. Not for sure what serving method would work for those gushers though lol


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Those are gushers. Sad to see really. I had a batch that did slight overcarb before it hit the fridge. Jus had to pour it into a large glass before it went on the table and let it settle. Very drinkable. Not for sure what serving method would work for those gushers though lol


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