Augie
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Yeah, I hear ya. And I wish I could say to let me know next time once you come around, but Sabco builds some good stuff and I know you will be happy with it!
I am going to be looking at conicals next
Yeah, I hear ya. And I wish I could say to let me know next time once you come around, but Sabco builds some good stuff and I know you will be happy with it!
Sankey, how much is he giving you if you sell one of those things for him? Sheesh ...
$4200 for a FULLY automatic system? Shipped? Wow, I am impressed. I can barely build what I just built and sell it for that.
Your enthusiasm is fine but, given you have not brewn on the system it's just a little unfounded.
No, not shipped. Neither of the prices I mentioned were for shipped. And, his semi-auto system is $3650 which is what every other rig's definition of 'fully' automated is. The full auto is just a step further. I thought the price was reasonable too, compared to DIY'ing a full electric rig (if you have to source a welder as good as you, that is).
What's also cool is that he sells control boxes for people like you who have some sort of electric rig that want automation added on. They look neat.
Wife gave me the go ahead... thinking really hard of which I want. 12 weeks for B3 or 1 week for BM. Leaning towards BM... but I don't want to let the time thing make the decision for me. Maybe I'll log on B3 and price another one up... there are just so many freaking options!
I can ship a car coast to coast for $800
May I revive this thread? I'm going to invest in one of the automated systems later this year and just starting to do my research. I'm afraid I will not have time to read all 10 pages here, perhaps the current onwers of the systems in the forum can provide feedback/advice? Thanks in advance.
samc said:You are going to spend $5,000 or more on a brewing system but you are not going to read 10 pages of info?
My advice is to read 10 pages of info.
Indyking said:This is not very promising about the brew magic...
Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2Jm7QmlqfE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Such an expensive system for basic issues like this...
Are any of the current owners out there experiencing this?
Indy,
I'm not sure where you are coming up with your prices on the B3 Flat Sculpture. With all of the options you listed, it works out to be $5350.85
IndyKing, from the floor to the center of tri-clamp nipple is 23.5 inches. A little higher than the top of a 5 gal. glass carboy, if that helps.
IIRC, Stone and Rogue pilot on a B3.
Several pilot on a BM including Dog Fish Head.
So i've used a B3 system and one thing that bugs me is the outlet on the front panel. My buddy who had it, he could have bought whatever he wanted, dude's loaded. He got the B3, full smart digital propane. But i can't get past those plugs. why not have it wired into a box and have some switches? it seems really silly to be plugging and unplugging pumps when you gotta get the pumps primed or need to stop. I'm leaning towards the BM because of this. i really liked the B3, its slightly cheaper...but that outlet
I've got a quote from brewsteel using a BCS-460 and HLT gas control that is on par with both the b3 and bm system. the brewsteel also includes a dual plate chiller and hop/trub filter. I'm freaking torn.
Well, you would be more than welcome to see my BM in Columbus if you cannot find anything closer. If you have any particular questions or want to see any pics/vids of the system that are not on the SABCO site, just let me know.
Subscribed. I too have quotes from Brewsteel, Sabco and have tinkered with the options on the Morebeer site (as recently as about an hour ago). Glad this thread has been revived. I read it originally last summer when I was first toying with the idea of a system.
My wife has finally relented and I am looking at placing an order in the next couple of weeks. I've been doing the research all over again it seems.
I had all but decided on the BM (I work at a software company and have to admit that the bling of the control system swayed me). My problem is that each time I come close to settling about a system because of an option here or there, some feature, pro or option on one of the other systems creeps back into my brain.
Chilling is a big part of the equation for me. I had my heart set on a plate chiller until I started reading on the difficulty of cleaning them. Same goes for counter flow chillers with the cleaning and storage. I also live in Oklahoma, where the summers can be brutal. I am leaning toward the morebeer immersion chiller with the recirculating diverter tube. I could really see me getting a lot of milage out of that if I used a pond pump or something simlar to recirculate the immersion side water through an ice bath.
I'm also torn between HERMS and RIMS on the Sabco vs. the Morebeer systems. Since I mash in the traditional 10 gal rubbermade cooler now, either would be an improvement for temp control. But for those of you out there who have brewed both ways, which is less of a hassle? Large volumes of water to keep a HERMS coil covered for heat control? Or the fact that a RIMS electric heating element is just one more piece of the system that can malfunction and need to be replaced?
I got a good quote from Brewsteel, and Kurt by far offered the most customization. But when you look at that Sabco video a few posts back, it gets me thinking about after sales service. If something goes wrong with the system, who is going to be easiest to work with to remedy the issue (Brewsteel?Morebeer?Sabco?). Not offering an opinion one way or another because of the 3, I have only done business with Morebeer so far, and only for brewing ingredients.
Still a lot of factors to sort through now that I have decided to go through with the purchase. I have the cash for any of the systems I am looking at. But it's still a big decision (and a big purchase).
Glad to see this thread is being kicked around again.
chemman14 said:What did you end up going with?
Subscribed. I too have quotes from Brewsteel, Sabco and have tinkered with the options on the Morebeer site (as recently as about an hour ago). Glad this thread has been revived. I read it originally last summer when I was first toying with the idea of a system.
My wife has finally relented and I am looking at placing an order in the next couple of weeks. I've been doing the research all over again it seems.
I had all but decided on the BM (I work at a software company and have to admit that the bling of the control system swayed me). My problem is that each time I come close to settling about a system because of an option here or there, some feature, pro or option on one of the other systems creeps back into my brain.
Chilling is a big part of the equation for me. I had my heart set on a plate chiller until I started reading on the difficulty of cleaning them. Same goes for counter flow chillers with the cleaning and storage. I also live in Oklahoma, where the summers can be brutal. I am leaning toward the morebeer immersion chiller with the recirculating diverter tube. I could really see me getting a lot of milage out of that if I used a pond pump or something simlar to recirculate the immersion side water through an ice bath.
I'm also torn between HERMS and RIMS on the Sabco vs. the Morebeer systems. Since I mash in the traditional 10 gal rubbermade cooler now, either would be an improvement for temp control. But for those of you out there who have brewed both ways, which is less of a hassle? Large volumes of water to keep a HERMS coil covered for heat control? Or the fact that a RIMS electric heating element is just one more piece of the system that can malfunction and need to be replaced?
I got a good quote from Brewsteel, and Kurt by far offered the most customization. But when you look at that Sabco video a few posts back, it gets me thinking about after sales service. If something goes wrong with the system, who is going to be easiest to work with to remedy the issue (Brewsteel?Morebeer?Sabco?). Not offering an opinion one way or another because of the 3, I have only done business with Morebeer so far, and only for brewing ingredients.
Still a lot of factors to sort through now that I have decided to go through with the purchase. I have the cash for any of the systems I am looking at. But it's still a big decision (and a big purchase).
Glad to see this thread is being kicked around again.
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