Can Melanoidin be a honey malt substitute?

[Elysium]

I have just read somewhere that honey malt can be substituted with melanoidin. Is it true?

I have a Kolsch recipe that calls for honey malt...but it is impossible to get it here in Spain.

Cheers

 

[oxpajama]

Impossible, like its illegal? melanoidin is a different beast than honey malt. Your best bet would be crystal 10L or 20L, but they wont be exact, I suppose you could add a dash of melanoidin to achieve some malty aroma. Im fermenting a brown ale that used half a lb for 5 gal, the aroma coming out of the airlock was straight up honey. half a lb honey malt that is. Melanoidin is malty/toastyish.

 

[eltorrente]

Melanoidin is totally different than honey malt. If you read somewhere that they could substitute for each-other, then I would suggest you disregard that particular source.

 

[BigFloyd]

Melanoidin is totally different than honey malt. If you read somewhere that they could substitute for each-other, then I would suggest you disregard that particular source.

Agreed. I like/use them both, but for different purposes.

 

[unionrdr]

It's mainly a German color malt,since it gives a garnet sort of color,depending on how much is used. I think the aroma/flavor it gives is like malty toast. I started using 8oz of it in the mash for my IPA's in place of the 3.2ozs of chocolate malt I was using. Better flavor & color so far. I think the toasted bread malt flavor will fit in great with any fall ale recipe. It def ups the malt flavors. It's 30L,with a diastatic power of 33. Or maybe use a pound of melanoiden with half a pound of honey malt for toast-n-honey sort of flavor. That might be good this time of year as well. Might just try that myself. Wanted to make a brown next anyway. Got some hops to use up that'd work.