Bulk Grain Price

[The Pol]

Briess for $1.79? Holy crap!

 

[The Pol]

On the LD Carlson thing... why do LHBS buy from them?

It escapes me that somone running a business would be paying MORE for thier stock, than I do for my own personal use.

Our LHBS sells crystal malts for OVER $2 per pound, I can get a 55# sack of crystal 40 for $46.

 

[justbrewit]

Briess for $1.79? Holy crap!

I'm tellin ya, that lhbs owner is killin us. I'm thinking about making a trip to more beer and picking up like 200 lbs, but I don't have a grain mill yet so I have to wait

 

[The Pol]

Yeah, when buying bulk, you can get quality malt for about 75% less than you are paying for Briess.

 

[buffalobrewer]

$60 for Briess? DAMN!

LHBS make a killing on this stuff, they have to

I feel dirty every time I walk out of there and have been buying less and less. Been thinking they might need a little competition in town.

 

[The Pol]

I feel dirty every time I walk out of there and have been buying less and less. Been thinking they might need a little competition in town.

I could buy sacks from MidCountry, mark it up 100%, and still undercut the LHBS in Indy.

 

[z987k]

My lhbs sells briess for 1.79 a pound, I'm afraid to ask how much a full sack is. If I could find more brewers in my area I'd set up a bulk order, but haven't found any around here yet

The malting co-op that does North Counrty(east coast) Midcountry(Midwest) canada(Vancouver), Great Western(West) all carry the same malts afaik. The prices should be the same if not very similar. There's facilities in Los Angeles and Union City, CA if that helps. You can go and pick up anywhere from 1 to 1million sacks, but not less than 1 25kg sack.

In fact people might like to know they are in
Champlain, NY,
Toronto, ON,
Thunder Bay, ON,
Motreal, QC,
Atlanta, GA,
Chicago, IL,
New Orleans, LA,
Denver, CO,
Pocatello, ID,
Calgary, AB,
Niobe, AB,
Vancouver, BC,
Vancouver, WA,
Union City, CA,
Los Angeles, CA

They can also ship up to a 2000lb palate for about $60 in state... er that's what the guy I talked to said when I went and picked everything up.

 

[z987k]

On the LD Carlson thing... why do LHBS buy from them?

It escapes me that someone running a business would be paying MORE for thier stock, than I do for my own personal use.

Our LHBS sells crystal malts for OVER $2 per pound, I can get a 55# sack of crystal 40 for $46.

Because I think LDC thinks they have a monopoly on the homebrew market and can charge whatever they want. Plus they carry more than grain. They carry white labs, Danstar and then carboys and ale pales and all the other equipment to.

I'll ask what the price the hbs pays for a sack of 2-row next time I'm in to see where it's all coming from.

 

[The Pol]

Because I think LDC thinks they have a monopoly on the homebrew market and can charge whatever they want. Plus they carry more than grain. They carry white labs, Danstar and then carboys and ale pales and all the other equipment to.

I'll ask what the price the hbs pays for a sack of 2-row next time I'm in to see where it's all coming from.

I think they need some competition, as well as some LHBS that are out there operating in a vacuum. They need game.

 

[Synovia]

On the LD Carlson thing... why do LHBS buy from them?

It escapes me that somone running a business would be paying MORE for thier stock, than I do for my own personal use.

Our LHBS sells crystal malts for OVER $2 per pound, I can get a 55# sack of crystal 40 for $46.

A lot of businesses are stuck in 20 years ago. They buy from one wholesaler for all their goods and can't be bothered to deal with it. It'll put them out of business eventually.

I used to make this argument with one of the Reef shops I frequented about aquarium pumps. They were paying like $60 a piece for a pump and selling it for $90, when I could buy them, shipped for like $45. My question was, why the hell aren't you buying them from the same place I am? The answer was always "because I buy everything from my wholesaler"

 

[The Pol]

Which is why a $35 refractometer will cost you how much from a LHBS? Try $80 here! Comes with a free tube of lube

 

[The Pol]

Maybe I will have a grain sale next year during the Great Grain Sale at our LHBS.

Buy a bunch of sacks of grain, sell it with a 20% markup for my time. So, about $.73 to $.85 per pound for all base malts. I wont be selling Briess either

I could blanket Indy in grain... problem is, most people arent educated enough to know they are getting hosed.

 

[Synovia]

Which is why a $35 refractometer will cost you how much from a LHBS? Try $80 here! Comes with a free tube of lube

Ask the LHBS how much they're paying for them, and I'm sure they'll tell you its in the $40-50 range. They're ridiculous.

We had a group buy on one of the marine boards for refractometers, and I think the store got them for like $8 a piece buying directly from the manufacturer. Yeah, its a little more work to operate like that, but you'll end up with lower overhead and higher profit margins, and happier customers.

 

[The Pol]

I am deeply involved in another business that operates like it did 40 years ago... isnt going so well for most. But, there are some that are different, who are thriving, because they dont roll with the paradigms

 

[MyOldKentuckyHomebrew]

I sell it for $50 for a 50# sack, I also give out numerous options for discounts so most people end up paying $45 or less

 

[The Pol]

I sell it for $50 for a 50# sack, I also give out numerous options for discounts so most people end up paying $45 or less

Is your site back up? I looked a few weeks ago and it was down...

 

[jpc]

The malting co-op that does North Counrty(east coast) Midcountry(Midwest) canada(Vancouver), Great Western(West) all carry the same malts afaik. The prices should be the same if not very similar. There's facilities in Los Angeles and Union City, CA if that helps. You can go and pick up anywhere from 1 to 1million sacks, but not less than 1 25kg sack.


They can also ship up to a 2000lb palate for about $60 in state... er that's what the guy I talked to said when I went and picked everything up.

Does this co-op have a name?

 

[z987k]

I am deeply involved in another business that operates like it did 40 years ago... isnt going so well for most. But, there are some that are different, who are thriving, because they dont roll with the paradigms

 

[z987k]

Does this co-op have a name?

yeah, the country malt group. North country, mid country, great western, canadian.

http://countrymaltgroup.com/

 

[jpc]

yeah, the country malt group. North country, mid country, great western, canadian.

http://countrymaltgroup.com/

I see nothing on their page about having warehouses in California. I'm not too far from Union City and would love to be able to pick up 50-55# sacks of grain locally for a good price (right now, I drive a long distance to do so).

 

[z987k]

I see nothing on their page about having warehouses in California. I'm not too far from Union City and would love to be able to pick up 50-55# sacks of grain locally for a good price (right now, I drive a long distance to do so).

http://www.northamericanmalt.com/Locations.asp

 

[jpc]

http://www.northamericanmalt.com/Locations.asp

Thanks. For some reason I couldn't find that (sometimes I suck at finding web stuff).

I had no idea they were there. Now the question is whether or not they will deal with a homebrewer a couple of sacks at at time. A quick e-mail is in order...

 

[The Pol]

Thanks. For some reason I couldn't find that (sometimes I suck at finding web stuff).

I had no idea they were there. Now the question is whether or not they will deal with a homebrewer a couple of sacks at at time. A quick e-mail is in order...

They should... they do here. You can buy one sack and still get that pricing. Here they actually have a Homebrewing Catalogue

 

[z987k]

Thanks. For some reason I couldn't find that (sometimes I suck at finding web stuff).

I had no idea they were there. Now the question is whether or not they will deal with a homebrewer a couple of sacks at at time. A quick e-mail is in order...

yeah they should. And yeah here they have homebrew catalog with stuff like star san in it. I think you can order like a 5 gal bucket of the stuff.

 

[jpc]

yeah they should. And yeah here they have homebrew catalog with stuff like star san in it. I think you can order like a 5 gal bucket of the stuff.

So much for that idea...

I just got an e-mail back from them; the answer is "No," they will NOT sell to individuals out of their Union City, CA location.

 

[The Pol]

So much for that idea...

I just got an e-mail back from them; the answer is "No," they will NOT sell to individuals out of their Union City, CA location.

That sucks, I feel lucky now

 

[zman]

I was just quoted $44.50 for a 50 pound bag of 2 Row Pale Malt from my local HBS. I'm curious what others are paying for the same.

actually that is really good. It is $65 here in Denver, but MO is also $65. Not great but not awful

 

[z987k]

So much for that idea...

I just got an e-mail back from them; the answer is "No," they will NOT sell to individuals out of their Union City, CA location.

Wow that sucks. You might consider trying the other location in CA, or putting together a group order. Stuff gets really cheap at 2000+lbs.

 

[zman]

The malting co-op that does North Counrty(east coast) Midcountry(Midwest) canada(Vancouver), Great Western(West) all carry the same malts afaik. The prices should be the same if not very similar. There's facilities in Los Angeles and Union City, CA if that helps. You can go and pick up anywhere from 1 to 1million sacks, but not less than 1 25kg sack.

In fact people might like to know they are in
Champlain, NY,
Toronto, ON,
Thunder Bay, ON,
Motreal, QC,
Atlanta, GA,
Chicago, IL,
New Orleans, LA,
Denver, CO,
Pocatello, ID,
Calgary, AB,
Niobe, AB,
Vancouver, BC,
Vancouver, WA,
Union City, CA,
Los Angeles, CA

They can also ship up to a 2000lb palate for about $60 in state... er that's what the guy I talked to said when I went and picked everything up.

FYI They do not sell to individuals in Denver, only microbreweries. I just called them. Lame!!

 

[The Pol]

That stinks, they sell for about 50% of LHBS bulk.