Brew kit...disassembly

[hilljack13]

Not sure if this is the right place...but..

I have a kit I was planning on brewing. From MB, Pizza Port One Brown Down. I have done the carribu slobber and winter warmer. I realized after comparing the ingredients they are VERY similar. So not wanting to brew the same thing, I would like to take the grains and come up with something else.

Kit includes: 9lbs 2 row Briess, 8oz crystal 40, 6oz crystal 75, 6oz chocolate malt, 4oz pale chocolate, 2oz crystal 120.

I like pale ale and would like to move to NEIPA at some point. I have some biscuit on hand. How could I go about making something out of this? I am not the best at creating recipes so looking for some help. I only use dry yeast, plenty of US-05 and S-04 on hand, windsor and I would have to look at the rest.

Cheers!

 

[sibelman]

Make a pale ale. You like that. Leave out the dark stuff, and choose between the 40L or, for a redder shade of pale, the 75L. Any of those yeasts will do fine. Happy brewing!

 

[IslandLizard]

Make a pale ale. You like that. Leave out the dark stuff, and choose between the 40L or, for a redder shade of pale, the 75L. Any of those yeasts will do fine. Happy brewing!

That!^
And leave out the C120 too.

You may want to add some more hops, though.
Anything in stock, such as Cascade?

 

[BrewnWKopperKat]

Make the beer session strength by using less base malt or "go big" by using less water.

Assuming the malts are crushed, keep them cool, dry, away from oxygen. They are probably good for 3 months in a tightly closed bag, longer if vacuum sealed.

 

[IslandLizard]

Make the beer session strength by using less base malt or "go big" by using less water.

I didn't realize this kit is rather strong. MoreBeer lists:

• Estimated Original Gravity: 1.062-70

So yeah, without the dark malts this would become heavy Pale Ale. That would need some extra hops to balance the sweetness. Or use less (base) malt for a more typical (American) Pale Ale gravity of 1.045-60.

 

[hilljack13]

That!^
And leave out the C120 too.

You may want to add some more hops, though.
Anything in stock, such as Cascade?

Just picked up a 1lb cascade a few weeks ago...

 

[Mack]

Just a quick suggestion.... You can ask Google Gemini (AI) to create a recipe for you with the ingredients you have on hand. It's actually pretty good and you can add or substitute hops etc to customize it even further. I've used it a handful of times to use to the partial bags of grain I had laying around.

 

[BrewnWKopperKat]

Let me know when LLMs

1. stop making stuff up when a correct can not be created by statistical word generation, and
2. do actual taste evaluation of proposed recipes.

 

[hilljack13]

Pretty simple...everything past this is equipment specific.

"If you want a recipe with 9 lbs of 2-row malt, here's a custom American Pale Ale recipe for you. This should give you a nice, balanced beer with a strong malt backbone and a good hop flavor.

American Pale Ale Recipe (5 Gallons) with 9 lbs of 2-Row Malt​

Ingredients:​

• Malts:
  • 9 lbs Pale Malt (2-row)
  • 1 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt (40L) – This adds sweetness and color.
• Hops:
  • 1 oz Cascade (Bittering, 60 minutes)
  • 1 oz Centennial (Flavor, 15 minutes)
  • 1 oz Cascade (Aroma, 5 minutes)
• Yeast:
  • 1 package American Ale Yeast (Wyeast 1056 or Safale US-05)"

 

[BrewnWKopperKat]

Based on the second paragraph and the quotation marks, I'll assume it's LLM generated.

Recipe looks like one of many SNPA clone/tribute recipes. Subsititute C40 for C60. Use some "Super Cascades" in place of Cascades.

Did the LLM report on it's opinion of the taste? If not, how is it different from just another random recipe "in the cloud"?

Overall, three mehs out of five.

 

[mac_1103]

three mehs out of five

This is the first I've heard of the "meh" scale. Could you post a link to a description? Perhaps something LLM generated?

 

[hilljack13]

I'll assume it's LLM generated.

Yes. I already have a SN clone in the works and one I did last year. Going to have to find something else to use it for.

 

[hilljack13]

Actually, I have some lutra and novalager I need to test out. Might just do a split batch. Seems the 2-row is similar to pilsen.

 

[Thnderhill]

https://www.brewersfriend.com/homebrew/recipe/calculator