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Well it ended up that they did not enforce any of the rules if you had VIP tickets
while the common swine qued up to be searched . I walked right in with open beer bottles in my hand and a back pack full. They also had Sweet Water 420 beer on sale in addition to Bud at the alleged discounted price of $4 for a 12oz cup. And gave beer away at the Thursday nite VIP party. The weather was great a little warm in the day time but the nights were very cool much cooler than I expected. The included food was just OK except Saturday the hamburgers SUXed the vegi burgers were better than the hamburgers if that gives you any idea how bad the hamburgers were.
They wet the roads down in the VIP camping area to keep the dust down but inside the fesitval area the dust was unbearable unless you had a mask or scarf.
The Music covered everthing from Bluegrass to Blues and Heavy Metal to Pop and the sound systems were good.
But baking my brains out, breathing hot dust clogged air or staying up until 3:30 in the morning is not my idea of a good time. Plus with so many people in attendance a band you could see in a small venue of 100 people normally would have a packed audience of 400-500 or more.
What really gaulded me the most was VIP tickets afforded us no special access to see the acts. All we got for our money was a shorter walk, no waiting in line to get inside, clean airconditioned restrooms and occasionally hot showers and no extra charge for the Sysco food.
I sincerely hope my wife doesn't want to do this again.
while the common swine qued up to be searched . I walked right in with open beer bottles in my hand and a back pack full. They also had Sweet Water 420 beer on sale in addition to Bud at the alleged discounted price of $4 for a 12oz cup. And gave beer away at the Thursday nite VIP party. The weather was great a little warm in the day time but the nights were very cool much cooler than I expected. The included food was just OK except Saturday the hamburgers SUXed the vegi burgers were better than the hamburgers if that gives you any idea how bad the hamburgers were.
They wet the roads down in the VIP camping area to keep the dust down but inside the fesitval area the dust was unbearable unless you had a mask or scarf.
The Music covered everthing from Bluegrass to Blues and Heavy Metal to Pop and the sound systems were good.
But baking my brains out, breathing hot dust clogged air or staying up until 3:30 in the morning is not my idea of a good time. Plus with so many people in attendance a band you could see in a small venue of 100 people normally would have a packed audience of 400-500 or more.
What really gaulded me the most was VIP tickets afforded us no special access to see the acts. All we got for our money was a shorter walk, no waiting in line to get inside, clean airconditioned restrooms and occasionally hot showers and no extra charge for the Sysco food.
I sincerely hope my wife doesn't want to do this again.
it sounded like a lot of fun. My buddy went, and I guess you have to put things into perspective. Then again, I love primitive camping, so I guess I have a little different perspective. I really wanted to go this year, but the timing was bad, plus the woman and I basically went broke (in terms of spending cash) on spending money on concert tickets this summer....fall shows haven't even been announced yet.......
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98EXL said:
Not really. I liked it 35 years ago when Black Sabbath was doing the exact same thing. It was new and exciting. But now it's just the SOS with different lyrics.
I like music that has at least a semblance of originality. Now most heavy metal is just boring to me. I fell asleep for much of the show. And since I'd only drank 1 beer I can't blame it on drinking too much.
In a way it's kind of like what passes these days for country music. It's the same music the Everly Bros. Carl Perkins, Buddy Holly,the New Riders of the Purple Sage, The Flying Burrito Bros. Goosecreek Symphony, The Grateful Dead and the Eagles were doing 35-50 or so years ago. Just put a twangy voice, cornball lyrics on top of rockabilly and viola instant country hit.
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98EXL said:
I like camping too. I just can't justify spending that kind of money to be 150 feet away from a band I could normally be 10 feet from. Sitting in the dust and heat when I would normally be in airconditioned comfort.
Everyone I spoke with in the VIP camping area or hospitality tent said they would never go back to camping with the common swine. Filthy 125 degree F
port-a-potties, dusty cramped camping conditions, 30 minute walks to the concert area, long lines waiting to be searched to get inside, tremendous wait times to get into and out of the camp grounds. Our VIP ticket allowed us to escape that but the VIP Bleachers were at least a 300 feet back from the main stage. And no special access to any other venue.
Concerts these days are a major rip-off but just like gasoline business men will charge what the market will bare. And if this sort of thing is enjoyable to you and your partner that's great. My wife loved it mainly because I got her to within 25 feet of the Police. But most of these guys especially the big name acts are a bunch of pompous, arrogant, egotisitcal, jerks and the thought of lining their pockets with my hard earn money bothers me.
On the plus side the crowd was mostly nice laidback people. The local and state police seem to have been restrained, my guess is because this brings millions of $ into Coffee county and if they screw with any and everyone trying to see how many fines and arrests they can make nobody's going to come back.
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I don't think that concert ticket prices are outrageous.....the thing that kills me is the [in]convenience charges. I thought our VirginFest tickets were a little overpriced....but then again, we went to StarScape a few weekends ago, night after we saw Tool again, and I thought that was a 'cheap' weekend of a **** ton of fun, lots and lots of music, people, etc. Seems to even out. I get what you are saying about being far away from the stage, it does suck, being close is awesome, but sometimes I don't even care...I just wanna listen 
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I'm an avid festival-goer (Summercamp, Wakarusa, 10KLF, etc). A month or so ago I attended a smaller fest and brought homebrew in half-gallon PET apple juice bottles. The lids sealed tightly enough to maintain carbonation throughout the three days I camped. It worked really well - thanks again to Brewinfool for the tip!
I also ended up camped next to a guy from central Illinois who is a homebrewer. It was great to talk shop and compare brews. His 2 year old mead was a tasty way to start the day
I also ended up camped next to a guy from central Illinois who is a homebrewer. It was great to talk shop and compare brews. His 2 year old mead was a tasty way to start the day
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98EXL said:I don't think that concert ticket prices are outrageous.....the thing that kills me is the [in]convenience charges. I thought our VirginFest tickets were a little overpriced....but then again, we went to StarScape a few weekends ago, night after we saw Tool again, and I thought that was a 'cheap' weekend of a **** ton of fun, lots and lots of music, people, etc. Seems to even out. I get what you are saying about being far away from the stage, it does suck, being close is awesome, but sometimes I don't even care...I just wanna listen
Well like you said earlier it's all matter of presective and being a good deal older than you. I remember when concert tickets went from $3.50 to $5.50. Me & most of my friend were saying I can buy an LP for less than that. F#@* this S&!+. Of course those same folks are now paying $350 for tix. Also back then things were more laid back I remember one show where I climbed up on stage and sat there the entire concert while Rod Stewart and Ron Wood danced around me. Now days I'd get beat up, land in jail or both. But then the security went bonkers, the Rolling Stones started hiring Hell's Angles that would just as soon kill you as look at you and the law enforcement saw concerts as opportunities to enhance revenue for the city and have a little extra fun by cracking a few skulls. Couple that with the fact that most bands sounded like S^!+ , I decided to spend my money building a concert quality sound system. Now days however computers can correct mistakes realtime and make these guys sound like they can play and even though most of them can't carry a tune in a bucket the computers make it sound like they can. So the concerts sound a lot better these days. But it all because of technology.
MikeRLynch
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I can't belive I missed this thread...I think I asked this same question a little while ago.
I went to Bonnaroo as well (first time) and we brought a few beers with us. I happened upon a mini cornie (3 gal) in the LHBS for 60 bucks, and I jumped on it. It fit perfectly in one of those Igloo ice cube coolers. We brewed up a Bonnaroo Wit to put in it and a Brown Ale which we put into those extreamly overpriced plastic bottles. The only reason we bought them is because they are brown, and won't skunk (a la Heinekin). We used a mini charger for the keg, but because I was a ******* I completely emptied it by accident, and didn't bring another. The result was a keg full of delicious cold beer, that we couldn't dispence. The solution? Give the keg a ********. We stuck our mouths to the 'in' line and blew like MFers and it dispenced the beer quite nicely. I have some hilarious pictures once I get my camera back. The rule was BYOB, Blow Your Own Beer. Other than that, it was ice cold and delicious. We killed it within two hours
As for the rest of the festival, I could go on and on, but I'll just say that when I eventually got home (4:30 am), 9 days later (we made some other stops), I felt like Odysseus returning from his voyage. Amazing experience, but not one that needs to be done twice.
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PS: oh, and the Police sucked
I went to Bonnaroo as well (first time) and we brought a few beers with us. I happened upon a mini cornie (3 gal) in the LHBS for 60 bucks, and I jumped on it. It fit perfectly in one of those Igloo ice cube coolers. We brewed up a Bonnaroo Wit to put in it and a Brown Ale which we put into those extreamly overpriced plastic bottles. The only reason we bought them is because they are brown, and won't skunk (a la Heinekin). We used a mini charger for the keg, but because I was a ******* I completely emptied it by accident, and didn't bring another. The result was a keg full of delicious cold beer, that we couldn't dispence. The solution? Give the keg a ********. We stuck our mouths to the 'in' line and blew like MFers and it dispenced the beer quite nicely. I have some hilarious pictures once I get my camera back. The rule was BYOB, Blow Your Own Beer. Other than that, it was ice cold and delicious. We killed it within two hours
As for the rest of the festival, I could go on and on, but I'll just say that when I eventually got home (4:30 am), 9 days later (we made some other stops), I felt like Odysseus returning from his voyage. Amazing experience, but not one that needs to be done twice.
mike
PS: oh, and the Police sucked
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Yeah, I got pretty bored half way thru the second song and left before the third was over. I couldn't take it. The only good show I saw over at that stage was Wilco.
No take that back.. Ziggy was good too, as well as the guy that played between them, Bob Wier and Rat Dog.
Basically all the headliners sucked. (Didn't catch Widespread Panic. We were leaving then to avoid traffic).
I am a Tool fan. I'm going to catch them at the Tweeter Center next month. Everything sounded to clean, like it was recorded at a studio. So mechanical. Like they really didn't want to be there. No emotion behind it.
I'm sory you guys feel that way about the current rock scene. What we get around here is pretty good (at least what I listen to). Some independant stations and no Clearwater Communications owned stations, so the selection is prety good. Altho if you listen to the "mix" stations that play all that pop too, that isn't anywhere near a good representation of what is out there. You have to get away from the huge corporate run stations to find the good stuff from the smaller lables.
The dust was brutal. I'm still messed up from it. It screwed with my sinuses and now I've got a bad caugh from the post nasal drip.
I only remember one night where it actually cooled down signifigantly. I mean, it was a huge diffrence from the blazing sun, but still not that cool to warrent anything with sleeves. After all, people were still going into the mushroom fountian spewing a couple hundred gallons a min. of that brown water. Who knows what else was in that. Shuddering just thinking about it.
I'd do it again, but with a diffrent group of people. 6 days with someone that refuses to make a decision, but takes controll and goes with the opposite of what you just sugested gets old. So does someone that can't take more than 2 songs of a band they never heard before, but only knows 3 bands out of a 4 day festival. Throw in a girl I used to have 'an arrangement' with, one guy that was only there because he was dating the other girl, and one guy that has been in love with that girl for 13 years but will never date, and pulling the 10PM to 8:30AM driving shift. Yeah, I walked off by myself a lot.
Other than that it was a good time.
No take that back.. Ziggy was good too, as well as the guy that played between them, Bob Wier and Rat Dog.
Basically all the headliners sucked. (Didn't catch Widespread Panic. We were leaving then to avoid traffic).
I am a Tool fan. I'm going to catch them at the Tweeter Center next month. Everything sounded to clean, like it was recorded at a studio. So mechanical. Like they really didn't want to be there. No emotion behind it.
I'm sory you guys feel that way about the current rock scene. What we get around here is pretty good (at least what I listen to). Some independant stations and no Clearwater Communications owned stations, so the selection is prety good. Altho if you listen to the "mix" stations that play all that pop too, that isn't anywhere near a good representation of what is out there. You have to get away from the huge corporate run stations to find the good stuff from the smaller lables.
The dust was brutal. I'm still messed up from it. It screwed with my sinuses and now I've got a bad caugh from the post nasal drip.
I only remember one night where it actually cooled down signifigantly. I mean, it was a huge diffrence from the blazing sun, but still not that cool to warrent anything with sleeves. After all, people were still going into the mushroom fountian spewing a couple hundred gallons a min. of that brown water. Who knows what else was in that. Shuddering just thinking about it.
I'd do it again, but with a diffrent group of people. 6 days with someone that refuses to make a decision, but takes controll and goes with the opposite of what you just sugested gets old. So does someone that can't take more than 2 songs of a band they never heard before, but only knows 3 bands out of a 4 day festival. Throw in a girl I used to have 'an arrangement' with, one guy that was only there because he was dating the other girl, and one guy that has been in love with that girl for 13 years but will never date, and pulling the 10PM to 8:30AM driving shift. Yeah, I walked off by myself a lot.
Other than that it was a good time.
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I have to say my crew wasn't that bad. As a matter of fact, with the exception of my best friends girlfriend, and a guy I had just met a few weeks earlier (he's cool) all the people I went with are my groomsmen. Good guys. The music was great, but if it weren't for that ******* southern sun I would have stayed for a lot more. My irish skin wasn't made for that stuff. As soon as the sun went down, I was a new man though. Did you guys try the Brooer's tent? I was a little dissapointed by some of the offerings. A little bland. Also the prices were astronomical. Add the fact that it was hotter in the tent than out in the blazing sun, and you get one unhappy drunk irish boy.
Anyone see String Cheese? They were amazing. Also taking acid for the first time and tripping my balls off for eight hours was pretty amazing too, come to think of it Unfortunately I dropped right before Tool came on. They're not my scene to begin with, but tripping and seeing those F'd up claymation things they had playing on the screens made my face melt off...
Anywhoo it was an experiance, and I get to bring back lots of stories, good and bad.
mike
Anyone see String Cheese? They were amazing. Also taking acid for the first time and tripping my balls off for eight hours was pretty amazing too, come to think of it
Unfortunately I dropped right before Tool came on. They're not my scene to begin with, but tripping and seeing those F'd up claymation things they had playing on the screens made my face melt off...Anywhoo it was an experiance, and I get to bring back lots of stories, good and bad.
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To me the best thing about Bonnaroo is the fact that I came home with a boat load of free PETE beer bottles!
But I thought Ziggy did an excellent job too. And liked Ben Harper especially when John Paul Jones came on stage. Enjoyed John Paul's appearance with Gillian Welsh too.
I did feel sorry for all ya'll yankees suffering in the heat I thought the weather was fantastic! The days were warm but the nights were really cool and plesant. Both me and the wife were cold at night every night and had to put on extra clothes dispite having 50F sleeping bags. We left Sunday after Bob Wier.
Have to agree that the dust was brutal. They wet the roads coming thru the Vip camp ground several times a day and could have done the same inside the Centeroo. I feel like it was a complete lack of consideration for the attendees to let the situation with the dust become so bad.
I could have made a fortune selling dust masks.
But I thought Ziggy did an excellent job too. And liked Ben Harper especially when John Paul Jones came on stage. Enjoyed John Paul's appearance with Gillian Welsh too.
I did feel sorry for all ya'll yankees suffering in the heat I thought the weather was fantastic! The days were warm but the nights were really cool and plesant. Both me and the wife were cold at night every night and had to put on extra clothes dispite having 50F sleeping bags. We left Sunday after Bob Wier.
Have to agree that the dust was brutal. They wet the roads coming thru the Vip camp ground several times a day and could have done the same inside the Centeroo. I feel like it was a complete lack of consideration for the attendees to let the situation with the dust become so bad.
I could have made a fortune selling dust masks.
D*Bo
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I could barely even use my 55* bag. Had the bottom opened, pulled up past my knees, and the bag unzippered. Basically the only reason I used it was so nobody had to see my hairy @ss in only boxers, and so I could pull the hood over my head when the sun started comming up.
Yeah, I'm built for the cold. I start sweating when temps get over 70*.
Still coughing from the dust. It's subsiding now tho. No more crippling back pain and sore stomach muscles from coughing fits. I was about ready to go visit the doctor.
I saw a few people walking around with the masks. Most were using rags. My buddy was convinced everybody was huffing:cross:
Most of my friends were convinced it was going to rain constantly. I guess the past couple of years it rained for atleast a little bit everyday. Maybe they were banking on that, but still....
I think the logistics of getting thru the crowds later in the day to spray everything down would have been rediculous.
Yeah, I'm built for the cold. I start sweating when temps get over 70*.
Still coughing from the dust. It's subsiding now tho. No more crippling back pain and sore stomach muscles from coughing fits. I was about ready to go visit the doctor.
I saw a few people walking around with the masks. Most were using rags. My buddy was convinced everybody was huffing:cross:
Most of my friends were convinced it was going to rain constantly. I guess the past couple of years it rained for atleast a little bit everyday. Maybe they were banking on that, but still....
I think the logistics of getting thru the crowds later in the day to spray everything down would have been rediculous.
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MikeRLynch
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I'm still coughing up a lung. My buddies GF was really bad the day after we left, and got worse. When she coughed up blood she decided to see the doctor, and is fairly convinced she's on the edge of pnemonia. I'm willing to believe her, she's hacking like a 90 year old chainsmoker. We're calling this "Bonnaroo First Responder Cough"
and yes abra, if you sold masks i would have bought them at any price
mike
and yes abra, if you sold masks i would have bought them at any price
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D*Bo said:
The grounds could have easily been wetted down in the morning(s) before the crowds came in.
I talked to someone that attended Burning Man out west she said people were running naked behind the water trucks out there.
Anything would have been better that doing Nothing. It was surely a health hazard. We covered our nose and month with towels as we traversed the worst of it. I'm still coughing up flem.
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I've still got a cough, thinking about seeing a doctor soon.
Silica is very bad for you.
Silica is very bad for you.
MikeRLynch
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When you go tell them that others are still coughing up a lung as well. I've gotten better, just an occasional cough now and again, but my friends GF is still shootin loogies. If I ever go again, I'm bringing a scuba tank to have my own oxygen supply...
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D*Bo
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Actually that would go over pretty well after dark. You'd make lots of new friends.
MikeRLynch
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lol, gawd i know. There was a guy with a full sized (5 foot tall) nitrous tank blowing up balloons a few camps sites away from me. All I heard at night was the sound of brain cells dying...
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D*Bo
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Camp Han Solo?
MikeRLynch
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Nope, I think Randolph Duke...honestly I don't really know...It was a long trip
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