Blue Moon Clone

[TasunkaWitko]

I would suggest weighing it...then you know.

If you're worried about it being too much, then back off a quarter or a third, but still weigh it and keep notes; if it works well for you, then you will want to repeat it.

 

[jeffreybandel]

I have been brewing this for years and it is spot on. But, I can no longer find dried Valencia Orange Peel. Does anyone have a source for it?

 

[bwible]

I have been brewing this for years and it is spot on. But, I can no longer find dried Valencia Orange Peel. Does anyone have a source for it?

McCormicks makes it here. Try the spice section in your supermarket

 

[nilo]

I tried both McCormicks and Frontier and ended up using Frontier for the last couple of batches.
Recipes HERE.
I'm back by the way, and for the posts that I still see here today, this recipe seems to be still very alive. Good to know, I may need some help to refresh my mind on how to brew again. Slowly but getting back.
Wayne, I assume you are still around, yes?
Thanks.

 

[Wayne1]

nilo,
Great to see you on the forums. I am recently retired from pro brewing but I am very willing to help amateurs.
Wayne

 

[JONNYROTTEN]

nilo,
Great to see you on the forums. I am recently retired from pro brewing but I am very willing to help amateurs.
Wayne

Now that you're around could you clarify the spice amounts. There was a lot of confusion.

Also dried vs zest orange amounts

 

[jeffreybandel]

McCormicks Valencia Orange peel is what I used for years but is not available anywhere--local or online.

 

[jeffreybandel]

I tried both McCormicks and Frontier and ended up using Frontier for the last couple of batches.
Recipes HERE.
I'm back by the way, and for the posts that I still see here today, this recipe seems to be still very alive. Good to know, I may need some help to refresh my mind on how to brew again. Slowly but getting back.
Wayne, I assume you are still around, yes?
Thanks.

I have brewed over 500 gallons of the Original Wayne1 recipe with McCormick Valencia Orange Peel and it is perfect. Nobody can tell the difference between mine and the Original. Looking at the Frontier description I cannot tell if it is Valencia...

 

[JONNYROTTEN]

I have brewed over 500 gallons of the Original Wayne1 recipe with McCormick Valencia Orange Peel and it is perfect. Nobody can tell the difference between mine and the Original. Looking at the Frontier description I cannot tell if it is Valencia...

Whats your spice amounts?

 

[nilo]

I have brewed over 500 gallons of the Original Wayne1 recipe with McCormick Valencia Orange Peel and it is perfect. Nobody can tell the difference between mine and the Original. Looking at the Frontier description I cannot tell if it is Valencia...

Unless you brew with both and compare, you'll never know which is better or worse. Yes, the Frontier doesn't say what orange it is from, but what really matters is the results, IMHO.

 

[TasunkaWitko]

I have been brewing this for years and it is spot on. But, I can no longer find dried Valencia Orange Peel. Does anyone have a source for it?

Got Walmart?

https://www.walmart.com/ip/McCormick-Gourmet-Valencia-Orange-Peel-1-5-oz/11984874

This has worked very well for me.

Hope this helps -

Ron

 

[nilo]

Walmart page says "out of stock". I have posted the question to McCormick Consumer Affairs Department on availability of this product. Will see what comes back.

 

[Carolina_Matt]

Walmart page says "out of stock". I have posted the question to McCormick Consumer Affairs Department on availability of this product. Will see what comes back.

Their website says it's not in stock online or available for pick-up, but your local store might have it. If you type in your zip code here, you can see if it's in stock locally, and the cost.

https://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker/?sku=11984874

 

[TasunkaWitko]

I checked, and it does appear to be in stock on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/McCormick-Gourmet-California-Lemon-Peel/dp/B0004N14D0/ref=sr_1_1_sspa

Note - the link defaults to "Lemon," but you can toggle Valencia Orange Peel.

I have not found a better ingredient than this, and hope that it continues to be available, one way or the other.

 

[nilo]

From McCormic customer care "We are happy to let you know that we still making Orange peel."
They recommended to look at Safeway stores

 

[bigdawg86]

I did a wheat beer inspired by this thread and its a crowd pleaser! I did 10 IBU worth of El Dorodo in boil, .5oz valencia orange peel & .75 oz toasted coriander at flameout, fermented with midwestern ale with another .5oz of orange peel into the fermentor. Great beer! If I do it again I am going to try Voss Kviek for more citrus in the beer.

 

[jeffreybandel]

Whats your spice amounts?

For 15 gallons I use 1.25 ounces of ground Coriander and 3.75 ounces of the Valencia Orange Peel

 

[jeffreybandel]

I checked, and it does appear to be in stock on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/McCormick-Gourmet-California-Lemon-Peel/dp/B0004N14D0/ref=sr_1_1_sspa

Note - the link defaults to "Lemon," but you can toggle Valencia Orange Peel.

I have not found a better ingredient than this, and hope that it continues to be available, one way or the other.

It says "unavailable".

 

[jeffreybandel]

Got Walmart?

https://www.walmart.com/ip/McCormick-Gourmet-Valencia-Orange-Peel-1-5-oz/11984874

This has worked very well for me.

Hope this helps -

Ron

That is for local store a long way from me.

 

[jeffreybandel]

From McCormic customer care "We are happy to let you know that we still making Orange peel."
They recommended to look at Safeway stores

No Safeway stores anywhere close to me. I'll see if Safeway delivers.

 

[Hophappy]

I have brewed over 500 gallons of the Original Wayne1 recipe with McCormick Valencia Orange Peel and it is perfect. Nobody can tell the difference between mine and the Original. Looking at the Frontier description I cannot tell if it is Valencia...

jeffrey:

Which version of Wayne1's recipe have you been brewing, the #429 post or an earlier version? 500 gallons is a lot, so you must really like it.

 

[jeffreybandel]

jeffrey:

Which version of Wayne1's recipe have you been brewing, the #429 post or an earlier version? 500 gallons is a lot, so you must really like it.

I think the first. For 15 gallons:

14 lbs 1 ounce 2 row
12.5 lbs German Wheat

 

[InspectorJon]

No Safeway stores anywhere close to me. I'll see if Safeway delivers.

I think Vons is the same as Safeway.

 

[JONNYROTTEN]

Brewers Best dried orange peel vs McCormick Orange peel?

Brewers Best is around $2
McCormick is over $5

Why such a difference?

Is one better than the other?

 

[balrog]

I've used the Brewers Best sweet peel, and fresh zest. One is certainly easier, and fresh zest REALLY can depend on the fruit & it's age, etc. The thing about the BBest is it is CHUNKS for the 1 lb pkg I bought. I am thinking I should zap it in the coffee grinder prior to using, as I do with the coriander seeds I buy whole and grind.

 

[Soulshine2]

I'm trying to figure out a Blue Moon Clone recipe.

Things I know about Blue Moon:

• Uses 2 Row Malt
• Uses White Wheat
• Uses Oats
• Doesn't use a Belgian yeast, uses a "standard ale yeast"
• Orange zest and coriander go in the last 3-5 minutes

Things I assume to be true about Blue Moon:

• Ale Yeast is Cal Ale (Chico) strain
• More orange than coriander

Things I'm trying to figure out:

• Ratio of grains
• Hop type and schedule
• Yeast strain
• Amounts of Coriander and Orange

Anyone have any nfo or ideas about this?

One of my first AG brews I made a hef, the next day I took the same grains ,sparged out a 2 1/2 gallon batch and added ....apollo hops, coriander and zest of orange and lime. used an ale yeast US-05 .and came out with a hoppier blue moon'ish style beer. Just drank the last one last weekend. I'd make it again.

 

[balrog]

One of my first AG brews I made a hef, the next day I took the same grains ,sparged out a 2 1/2 gallon batch and added ....apollo hops, coriander and zest of orange and lime. used an ale yeast US-05 .and came out with a hoppier blue moon'ish style beer. Just drank the last one last weekend. I'd make it again.

Wait, what? You left the wet grains in the mash tun for a day and then sparged some more the next day?

 

[Soulshine2]

Wait, what? You left the wet grains in the mash tun for a day and then sparged some more the next day?

believe it or not ,yes. i had it out in the cold garage that night so it was refrigerated so to speak. It was my first AG so I didnt know any better. But if I did it again , I'd brew this the first go -round.

 

[TasunkaWitko]

I'm 98% sure that the last bottle of peel I got was online, but I've also seen it locally.

If I find a reliable source, I'll be sure to post it; if all else fails, I'm sure that one of us can send you some.

 

[BilltownBrewingCo]

Anyone have thoughts on fermenting Wayne's Recipe with Voss Kviek? Should be clean enough to come out similar, maybe accentuate the orange peel?