Blackberry Wheat Saison Recipe Feedback

[chewyheel]

I've harvested and frozen 3 pounds worth of wild blackberries recently and want to use them as an addition to my next beer. It's going to be a simple wheat beer consisting of

6 lbs pale ale
2 lbs white wheat
.5 lb triticale (hybrid of rye and wheat)
3 lbs frozen blackberries in secondary

.5 oz centennial 10% FWH

Safale BE 134 yeast

22 IBU for the hops

This is my first time using this yeast as well as using wild blackberries, so if anyone has experience using either I'd be glad to hear about it. I suppose my main concern is getting an appropriate bitterness level. Wild blackberries definitely have a nice tang to them so I think I need to be careful with the hops so it's not too bitter. This yeast is a very high attenuation rate so it's going to finish very dry as well.

 

[IslandLizard]

Looks really yummy!

If anything, that Triticale is being drowned out by everything else. If you want any hint of it, replace the white wheat with it. If you do so, double check the diastatic power of the Pale malt, some (undermodified) ones can be really low in DP.

You probably know how small those Triticale kernels are. So you'll need to tighten your mill until the knurls almost touch (but make sure they don't touch, all the way around), and mill separately from the other ingredients.

 

[Coffeeturnal]

I just used BE-134. Give it 2.5-3 weeks to finish up. It ferments most of the sugar in the first couple days, but slowly continues over that time.

That sounds like a pretty tasty recipe.

 

[chewyheel]

Looks really yummy!

If anything, that Triticale is being drowned out by everything else. If you want any hint of it, replace the white wheat with it. If you do so, double check the diastatic power of the Pale malt, some (undermodified) ones can be really low in DP.

You probably know how small those Triticale kernels are. So you'll need to tighten your mill until the knurls almost touch (but make sure they don't touch, all the way around), and mill separately from the other ingredients.

Have you used triticale before? This is my first time.

 

[madscientist451]

I've never used Triticale, but I'll agree with IslandLizard that 1/2 lb isn't going to be noticeable.
I know it can be time consuming to pick 3 lbs of wild berries (they're small and spread out!)
so I think it would be better to avoid oddball ingredients that may clash.
Now if you have plenty more berries and want to experiment, go for it, but it might be better to make a non-fruited Triticale beer first to see what would go with it.
For my tastes, fermented berries don't really go all that well with beer, I prefer using berries in a wine strength mead. The berry taste really pops out. But that's just me, everyone has different taste preferences.
I've never used that yeast, my saisons lately have used WL American Saison blend, which attenuates well and leaves a clean, neutral finish that is good with fruit.
Perhaps just run a small batch with your grain bill and yeast and see how you like it? You can save the yeast and throw it in a bigger batch when you use your berries if you are happy with the results.

 

[chewyheel]

Thanks for the feedback, I forgot to mention earlier that I had already ordered the ingredients so I didn't really have any way to modify it. Brewed it up yesterday and it's fermenting now