Big Mouth Bubblers are dangerously thin

[wardens355]

Why not use Spiedel fermenters? Granted they aren't clear but they are pretty damn good and are built solid! I have a stainless conical which I love but when I want to brew multiple batches, since I can't afford multiple conicals, I picked up a spiedel one that was on sale. Plenty of headspace and it comes with a big ass airlock.

I prefer to not have the spigot on the carboy/fermenter to eliminate crevices. The PET carboys are also smaller in diameter so they fit better in my freezers. Being clear is nice too so I can see what's going on without removing the airlock. I have considered Spiedel or conical fermenters, but I can get 2-3 PET carboys at same price as a Spiedel, so I decided to stick with that. I now use Fermcap and can get 5.5 gallons in the carboy with minimal blowoff.

 

[Homercidal]

So, have you seen the new version of the glass BMB at Midwest Supplies??

17% more glass!!!

http://www.midwestsupplies.com/big-mouth-bubbler-evo-2-6-5-gallon.html

EDIT: Sorry, it's 17% thicker walls....

 

[wilserbrewer]

Yea...I thought this interesting,

Extra-thick glass eliminates oxygen permeation and keeps your brew safe.

Keeps your brew safe...what is unsafe brew?

 

[bja]

Keeps your brew safe...what is unsafe brew?

The kind that has crocodile bile in it.

 

[Hello]

I saw the ad in my email last night. 17% thicker walls still seems thin. Based on someone's image posted with calipers, I suspect you can use the width of a dime, perhaps a penny, and then come up with the thickness of these things.

Anyone who has had one just break should be sent another one of these. I still don't know that we're looking at a vessel that is as thick as a older carboy. But hey, at least they want to keep our brew safe!

 

[Homercidal]

Keeps your brew safe...what is unsafe brew?

Brew that explodes and slices through tendons...

 

[mmb]

Convert to plastic or stainless steel and be done with it. Glass is a holdover that should bow out gracefully and be sold to the wine and mead folks.

 

[IslandLizard]

I saw the ad in my email last night. 17% thicker walls still seems thin. Based on someone's image posted with calipers, I suspect you can use the width of a dime, perhaps a penny, and then come up with the thickness of these things.

Anyone who has had one just break should be sent another one of these. I still don't know that we're looking at a vessel that is as thick as a older carboy. But hey, at least they want to keep our brew safe!

Exactly! It's uniformity they should pay attention to, and putting the glass where it counts. Adding 17% to thin is still thin, even by American standards.

< Replaying that famous scene from Gung Ho: Not like that...! Here, here, here, and here! (pointing to each of the 4 wheels) [sic] >

Europe is a big region, why not disclose the country of origin? Besides, "European Glass" doesn't necessarily mean it's manufactured there.

Although it may keep the brew safe, shouldn't we be as much concerned about the brewer?

 

[IslandLizard]

Convert to plastic or stainless steel and be done with it. Glass is a holdover that should bow out gracefully and be sold to the wine and mead folks.

Why? Do you hate them?

 

[bondra76]

hmm curious to see how the new glass one stands up.

One thing I don't like already though - no mention of upgrading the plastic crappy lid.

 

[wardens355]

Europe is a big region, why not disclose the country of origin? Besides, "European Glass" doesn't necessarily mean it's manufactured there.

The Midwest Supplies site quotes "...re-engineered it with the help of world-class Polish master glassmakers to ensure sturdy, solid, superior craftsmanship."

 

[Homercidal]

I don't want to be "that guy", but who wants Polish engineering in their products??!! =8D

 

[IslandLizard]

The Midwest Supplies site quotes "...re-engineered it with the help of world-class Polish master glassmakers to ensure sturdy, solid, superior craftsmanship."

Not sure if that should make us feel better.

And again, "engineered with the help of" doesn't mean "manufactured by."

Now Luksusowa Potato Vodka comes in damn sturdy bottles!

 

[mmb]

Why? Do you hate them?

Nope. Better options exist now that are no where near as heavy, slick when wet, breakable, difficult to clean, and difficult to store.

For an useless example, I love the Ford Model T but I don't use it for commuting.

 

[RPCidery]

The kind that has crocodile bile in it.

Or a whole crocodile.

 

[bja]

Nope. Better options exist now that are no where near as heavy, slick when wet, breakable, difficult to clean, and difficult to store.

For an useless example, I love the Ford Model T but I don't use it for commuting.

 

[IslandLizard]

Nope. Better options exist now that are no where near as heavy, slick when wet, breakable, difficult to clean, and difficult to store.

For an useless example, I love the Ford Model T but I don't use it for commuting.

Yes, we do have better alternatives. I was actually wondering if you had anything against mead and wine makers.

 

[DarthCitra]

One of mine broke right around the bubbles in the glass and i emailed Northern Brewer about it and never heard anything from them. I have a second one that i dont use at all. the old ones are pretty dangerous.

 

[mmb]

Yes, we do have better alternatives. I was actually wondering if you had anything against mead and wine makers.

Well, that goes without saying.

 

[Hello]

Nope. Better options exist now that are no where near as heavy, slick when wet, breakable, difficult to clean, and difficult to store.

For an useless example, I love the Ford Model T but I don't use it for commuting.

Well, that goes without saying.

I have to ask why?

If I think someone is going to get hurt by something then I say take it out of commission entirely, not hand it off to someone else.

 

[LandoLincoln]

I don't want to be "that guy", but who wants Polish engineering in their products??!! =8D

Hey now. My whole brewery was made with Polish engineering! And it's only burst into flames once!

 

[mmb]

I have to ask why?

If I think someone is going to get hurt by something then I say take it out of commission entirely, not hand it off to someone else.

It's their smug condescension and habit of upsetting awards calculations at beer judging events.

I'm looking at you @AZ_IPA !

 

[bondra76]

One of mine broke right around the bubbles in the glass and i emailed Northern Brewer about it and never heard anything from them. I have a second one that i dont use at all. the old ones are pretty dangerous.

Wait, so you already had one of the new versions break on you?

 

[penguinwing13]

17% or not I'm still not going to bother with them, I still have 2 of the original BMB's collecting dust plus a large scar & limited movement on the pointer finger on my left hand from the one that disintegrated in it. Oh & I did make Midwest aware of said product failure resulting in "sorry" & nothing more.

 

[Stealthcruiser]

I have to ask why?

If I think someone is going to get hurt by something then I say take it out of commission entirely, not hand it off to someone else.

That, or hand it off to someone in Raleigh!................

 

[Wolfbayte]

what happened to the beer in the busted glass BMB? Did you starsan some duct tape and RDWHAHB? Rack into a spare? Just curious.

And the plastic BMB I have is flimsy such that if I put any pressure on the side while moving, it will squeeze like a 20 oz Aquafina in Lou Ferigno's hand.

+1 to sticking with buckets.

Cheers

 

[troy2000]

I don't want to be "that guy", but who wants Polish engineering in their products??!! =8D

I have a large collection of old Mosin Nagant battle rifles from combloc countries. My Polish M44 is one of the sweetest of the whole bunch; it was apparently manufactured and finished to high-end sporting standards.

If they can make a Russian-designed army rifle look pretty and operate smoothly, I'm not going to argue with their engineering or quality control.

 

[Darwin18]

Spend $125 and get a free Big Mouth Bubbler. A product that Northern Brewer knows is defective, dangerous, and has injured it's customers.

 

[itsme_timd]

Spend $125 and get a free Big Mouth Bubbler. A product that Northern Brewer knows is defective, dangerous, and has injured it's customers.

It says right in the email that it's the plastic BMB.

They also have new EVO 2 glass version with thicker glass.

 

[Darwin18]

Obviously I only read the title of the email.

 

[Hello]

It says right in the email that it's the plastic BMB.

They also have new EVO 2 glass version with thicker glass.

Thicker but as someone also said, and I agree, 17% thicker is actually still thinner than it should be. This is glass we're dealing with. I want to bulk age something for 9 months and I wanted to use glass. I'm scared to so I'm using a keg.

Obviously I only read the title of the email.

Well you are from Garner. hahah I'm totally kidding!

 

[hunter_le five]

Spend $125 and get a free Big Mouth Bubbler. A product that Northern Brewer knows is defective, dangerous, and has injured it's customers.

Maybe their shipping department is backlogged, and they're trying to discourage people from ordering a lot of stuff?

"Don't order so much stuff, or we WILL cut you."

 

[penguinwing13]

what happened to the beer in the busted glass BMB? Did you starsan some duct tape and RDWHAHB? Rack into a spare? Just curious.



And the plastic BMB I have is flimsy such that if I put any pressure on the side while moving, it will squeeze like a 20 oz Aquafina in Lou Ferigno's hand.



+1 to sticking with buckets.



Cheers

The one that cut me was empty & at room temperature. So I didn't loose any beer, just blood, feeling in my finger, & some motion in said finger.

 

[Wolfbayte]

The one that cut me was empty & at room temperature. So I didn't loose any beer, just blood, feeling in my finger, & some motion in said finger.

Ouch!

 

[Rev2010]

The one that cut me was empty & at room temperature. So I didn't loose any beer, just blood, feeling in my finger, & some motion in said finger.

Not to be "that" guy, and I am by no means sue crazy... but have you considered speaking to a lawyer? I mean, it's fairly well documented on here how thin they are and the wall thickness is easily measurable to less than the thickness of a dime. Wouldn't be surprised if there are some standards that were violated.


Rev.

 

[bja]

Wouldn't be surprised if there are some standards that were violated.


Rev.

Standards? What kind of standards could there possibly be?

 

[Rev2010]

Standards? What kind of standards could there possibly be?

No clue dude, but there are standards in place on many items out there. Perhaps for use past a certain volume of liquid a certain thickness is required. I have no idea. The point was many have been injured by this flawed product and last I've seen many people have won awards for being injured using poorly designed or flawed products.


Rev.

 

[wbarber69]

I'm gas racking a 6.5gallon bmb this weekend. Wish me luck!

 

[Rev2010]

I'm gas racking a 6.5gallon bmb this weekend. Wish me luck!

Make sure you buy and wear the new Big Mouth Bubbler Protection Suit!:

Rev.

 

[bja]

I'm gas racking a 6.5gallon bmb this weekend. Wish me luck!

Be sure to video record it and then post it here. Should be quite dramatic.