Belhaven Scottish Ale recipe?

[stephelton]

I've been looking for an AG Belhaven Scottish Ale recipe with no success. Has anyone come across such a recipe?

 

[Kerberbb]

I am pretty sure Austin Homebrew has a clone of it, but if anybody knows exactly whats in it please let me know. Its a great beer!

 

[Nugent]

I'm pretty sure that there's a recipe for Belhaven in Graham Wheeler's Brew your own British Real Ale at Home. I had it sent from the UK, but Amazon will have it in April (according to the website).

I'm away from home right now, but will be home later in the weekend. I'll post the recipe as Wheeler has it.

Hope this will work.

Cheers.

 

[stephelton]

There's a recipe for it out of Clone Brews, the extract version of which is listed in the recipes section. I'll paste my modified version (of the AG) here:

24.5 lbs Golden Promise
1.5 lbs Crystal 55L
4 oz Toasted malt
4 Oz Peat smoked malt

3 Oz East Kent Goldings 4.75% AA @ 60 minutes (target about 31.5 IBU)

Wyeast 18?? Scottish Ale

And that's for a 10g recipe. I'm going to try it out tomorrow (hopefully I can find the Golden Promise...)

 

[ghpeel]

Quarter pound of peat smoked malt? That seems excessive. Is "peat smoked" malt not as intense as normal "smoked" malt?

 

[Nugent]

This is the recipe for Belhaven's 80/- from Wheeler's book. All of the measurements are in metric. I'll leave it to you to convert them.

Belhaven 80/-

For 5 gal.

OG: 1040
FG: 1008
Mash @ 66C for 90 mins.
ABV: 4.2%
IBU: 29
SRM: 18

2.85 kg UK pale malt (Maris Otter or equivalent)
0.25 kg white sugar
0.08 kg medium crystal (55L)
0.05 kg black patent malt

32 g Goldings at start of boil
11 g Goldings for last ten
3 g Irish moss

Described as follows: "One of the few remaining Scottish 80/-, with malt the predominant flavour characteristic, though it is balanced by hop and fruit. Roast and caramel malts play a part in a complex beer." (Wheeler, 2009:120)

The whole adding sugar thing kinda turns me off; but from what I read, it's fairly common in the UK.

Hope this helps.

 

[avidhomebrewer]

Quarter pound of peat smoked malt? That seems excessive. Is "peat smoked" malt not as intense as normal "smoked" malt?

From my experience, peat smoked malt is different than 'normal' smoked malt. I think you will be fine using what you suggest for peat smoked malt and it will not lead to too much smoked flavor in the beer.

 

[ghpeel]

From my experience, peat smoked malt is different than 'normal' smoked malt. I think you will be fine using what you suggest for peat smoked malt and it will not lead to too much smoked flavor in the beer.

Cool. If my local shop only has regular smoked malt, how much should I use in place of 4oz of the peat smoked malt? 1-2 ozs?

 

[jmo88]

A quarter pound of peat malt is gonna be very smoky. Peated malt belongs in scotch, not Scottish beer.

 

[avidhomebrewer]

I haven't found that to be the case with peat malt adding excessive smoky flavors to the beer. Regular smoked malt yes, but not peated.

I have made some Scottish beers in the past with peat smoked malt and it adds a very nice character to the beer, with a usage of no more than 4 oz. for 5 gallons. I would think that if you use normal smoked malt you will get a different flavor than what you are hoping for.

 

[stephelton]

I'm using the recipe I posted earlier, except I'm using 22 lbs of Maris Otter instead of the Golden Promise. Just started sparging, and based on the flavor of the wort so far, there is not too much smokey flavor. It's present, but quite subtle. There seems to be more aroma from the peat smoked malt than flavor...