Beersmith just released the new version

[trav77]

I'm not sure about the discrepancies, but acid malts in beersmith do not change the PH. Brad states best practices would be to measure PH, then adjust from there with acid malt. I've also noticed there is no sparge additions for the water. But I have noticed that the additions seem to line up minus the 2 things noted above. At least on one recipe entered into both beersmith and brunwater

Hmm. I'm not using acid malt but rather 88% lactic and I did set up a water profile for my home tap water which I entered as an ingredient.

I will have another look at it tonight. Yesterday I entered in a dunkelweizen that according to BrunWater should need no water adjustment whatsoever. BeerSmith still has the predicted mash pH as quite high.

 

[trav77]

I will have another look at it tonight. Yesterday I entered in a dunkelweizen that according to BrunWater should need no water adjustment whatsoever. BeerSmith still has the predicted mash pH as quite high.

Should also mention that interestingly, for the few recipes that I've played around with so far... some needing quite a bit of pH adjustment (Pils) ... others none at all (Dunkel)... BrunWater and BeerSmith calculate the RA as the same. Just the estimated mash pH is different...

 

[KeyWestBrewing]

I just tried to download the update and its working fine to replace the file but when I open Beersmith I don't think I have the updated version. Im not seeing any of the stuff everyone is talking about. Has anyone else had this happen?

 

[Oginme]

FWIW, I took a couple of my archived brews from last winter and looked them out with the new water profile. BeerSmith's predicted pH was much closer to my actual readings than the print out from BrunWater. Neither is perfect, but that because the modeling calculations cannot account for other ions in the water and interactions with added minerals and salts. I am a little disappointed that BeerSmith does not include the effect of acidulated malts.

 

[govner1]

I just tried to download the update and its working fine to replace the file but when I open Beersmith I don't think I have the updated version. Im not seeing any of the stuff everyone is talking about. Has anyone else had this happen?

Check your application file. It installs it as just BeerSmith 2 w/ no version extension. Check for install date, too.
I just renamed it.

 

[jcav]

I just tried to download the update and its working fine to replace the file but when I open Beersmith I don't think I have the updated version. Im not seeing any of the stuff everyone is talking about. Has anyone else had this happen?

Interesting, you should see it when you scroll down in the mash section. You should also have a session tab and have more fields and the measured values are also now in yellow. There are more changes but these are the most obvious right off the bat.

John

 

[KeyWestBrewing]

Check your application file. It installs it as just BeerSmith 2 w/ no version extension. Check for install date, too.
I just renamed it.

That did the trick thanks!!!

 

[govner1]

Glad to help

 

[juggabrew]

The new versions brew sheet prints out over three pages. That needs to be addressed and scaled down to one sheet. It's my biggest peeve about BS that has never been fixed. A new template would be nice.

 

[Oginme]

The new versions brew sheet prints out over three pages. That needs to be addressed and scaled down to one sheet. It's my biggest peeve about BS that has never been fixed. A new template would be nice.

I you are using Windoze, then you can scale the print out on the preview page. You can also write your own brew sheet since they are html files that fits to your need. There are several that others have written out there in other threads both on HBT and the BeerSmith forums if you search.

 

[Homercidal]

The new versions brew sheet prints out over three pages. That needs to be addressed and scaled down to one sheet. It's my biggest peeve about BS that has never been fixed. A new template would be nice.

I definitely recommend reading up on creating your own custom brew sheets. It's not very hard once you understand the process. I'm about to get all my BS installation sync'ed up and get all custom reports created. The defaults are ok, but I never understood why they needed to span multiple pages.

 

[mblanks2]

FWIW, I took a couple of my archived brews from last winter and looked them out with the new water profile. BeerSmith's predicted pH was much closer to my actual readings than the print out from BrunWater. Neither is perfect, but that because the modeling calculations cannot account for other ions in the water and interactions with added minerals and salts. I am a little disappointed that BeerSmith does not include the effect of acidulated malts.

This is interesting. I was hoping that this tool would work out. The biggest issue I have is that I use RO water and generally add salts to sparge water as well as mash water and the Beersmith tool doesn't allow that option. I suppose I will try a small batch of my pale ale this weekend using Beersmith's water tool and see how it compares. If anyone is using this tool with or without success, please speak up.

 

[Sleepyemt]

I just did a batch with it, I'll advise when it's done... I do wish it had sparge additions

 

[mblanks2]

I just did a batch with it, I'll advise when it's done... I do wish it had sparge additions

How did your actual PH relative to the programs Estimated PH line up?

 

[Homercidal]

Really, all I need is a place to store mash and sparge water salt amounts after I calculate with Bru'nwater.

I haven't built a recipe with it yet, but plan to soon. Maybe I can play with it at work today for a bit.

 

[laredo7mm]

Really, all I need is a place to store mash and sparge water salt amounts after I calculate with Bru'nwater.

I haven't built a recipe with it yet, but plan to soon. Maybe I can play with it at work today for a bit.

If you have your water profiles with salt additions required to meet your target, when you add that water to your recipe BeerSmith asks if you want to add the minerals to your ingredients. When selecting yes, it will add the minerals required to meet your target based on the amount of water you added to the recipe.

When the salts are added to the recipe, they default to being used in the mash. You can then double click and change that to boil, primary, etc.

For example, I am going to probably do is this:

1. Recipe calls for 5 gallons strike water and 4 gallons sparge water
2. Create a water profile including the needed salts and have one name appended with "strike" and the other with "sparge"
3. I can then add 5 gallons of strike water >> select yes to add minerals
4. Then add the 4 gallons of sparge water >> yes to add minerals
5. Edit the sparge mineral additions and change the "Mash" to "Boil"

Doing the above is sort of a pain, but at least everything is in the ingredients list. However, with two separate waters in your ingredients, even if they are the same water just different amounts, then on the mash tab, the water in the Estimated Mash pH says "Mixed Profiles."

I don't know how having two different water profiles in your ingredient list will affect the pH calculation.

 

[Homercidal]

If you have your water profiles with salt additions required to meet your target, when you add that water to your recipe BeerSmith asks if you want to add the minerals to your ingredients. When selecting yes, it will add the minerals required to meet your target based on the amount of water you added to the recipe.

When the salts are added to the recipe, they default to being used in the mash. You can then double click and change that to boil, primary, etc.

For example, I am going to probably do is this:

1. Recipe calls for 5 gallons strike water and 4 gallons sparge water
2. Create a water profile including the needed salts and have one name appended with "strike" and the other with "sparge"
3. I can then add 5 gallons of strike water >> select yes to add minerals
4. Then add the 4 gallons of sparge water >> yes to add minerals
5. Edit the sparge mineral additions and change the "Mash" to "Boil"

Doing the above is sort of a pain, but at least everything is in the ingredients list. However, with two separate waters in your ingredients, even if they are the same water just different amounts, then on the mash tab, the water in the Estimated Mash pH says "Mixed Profiles."

I don't know how having two different water profiles in your ingredient list will affect the pH calculation.

Yeah, I'm not doing all that. I really just need some static fields added to the recipe where I can input the amounts of each salt, usually just Gypsum and CaCl, and some acid and it will stick with the recipe. Maybe a text box to state the percentage of RO water vs Tap. I usually use RO unless it's a dark beer.

I suppose I could add places in the report to write it, but then it won't stick with the recipe inside BS.

Right now I keep a copy of each Bru'nwater calculation, and I print that or write the amounts down somewhere, but they aren't WITH the recipe in BS.

 

[KeyWestBrewing]

It wouldn't show up with the ingredients on the design tab but you could always write all that stuff in the notes tab. I know it's not what you were looking for but at least it saves with the recipe. As long as you review the notes before you brew you'll know exactly what you did.

 

[Homercidal]

It wouldn't show up with the ingredients on the design tab but you could always write all that stuff in the notes tab. I know it's not what you were looking for but at least it saves with the recipe. As long as you review the notes before you brew you'll know exactly what you did.

That's actually a good way to do it. I have never thought of putting notes in my recipes.

 

[KeyWestBrewing]

That's actually a good way to do it. I have never thought of putting notes in my recipes.

It's a feature I'm trying to use more. I usually just use it to note my process with specialty ingredients. Just don't forget to review your notes lol.

 

[Oginme]

I add my water adjustment salts in as a misc item labeled as 'water agent'. They show up as additives at the very top of the brew day sheet and are listed as a part of the recipe for future reference.

 

[Homercidal]

I add my water adjustment salts in as a misc item labeled as 'water agent'. They show up as additives at the very top of the brew day sheet and are listed as a part of the recipe for future reference.

I will check that out too. Should probably build my recipe soon and get a trip to the LHBS on the calendar.

 

[NoIguanaForZ]

Have to check it out. Did they fix the non-physical representation of the boiling process? And the inexplicable, potentially dangerous thing where it calculates priming sugar based on your expected batch size rather than actual?

 

[kh54s10]

Also on the add window, you can add without closing so adding 5 additions of the same hop is very easy (and if you had to modify the Alphas on the fly, you don't have to keep changing it).

I worked on 3 recipes last night and kept forgetting about this new feature until I had added a hop, the window closed, opened again, the window closed, added another hop and then remembered the add without closing button!!! DUH! :smack: Even after having done the same thing with the malts. :smack::smack:

 

[unionrdr]

I try to put in brew day & bottling notes as much as possible in the lower notes field. The upper one's for tasting notes, but still need to get in the habit of using the tasting notes field.

 

[raysmithtx]

I try to put in brew day & bottling notes as much as possible in the lower notes field. The upper one's for tasting notes, but still need to get in the habit of using the tasting notes field.

That's what I do too. I then add a - and a number after the recipe name and then "Save As". That lets me keep each version I have brewed as a separate file without worrying about overwriting the original. Although with the new version of Beersmith you can Lock a recipe to keep from accidentally editing it so that may not be necessary in the future.

 

[Nico93]

i just received another update (i think bug fix o some correction but i don't know) but beersmith say "could not establish a connection to the server"

i just have to wait or i have to download it in another way?

 

[Upthewazzu]

Anyone know what the most recent update did? I had already updated to 2.3 a couple weeks ago and a new one just popped up in the app (desktop version). My current version is now 2.3.7.

 

[day_trippr]

I'm also at 2.3.7.
No release notes to be found anywhere.
It is what it is...

Cheers!

 

[laredo7mm]

I'm also at 2.3.7.
No release notes to be found anywhere.
It is what it is...

Cheers!

http://beersmith.com/beersmith-2-3-software-change-log/

Fixes in the 2.3.7 patch
– “Update Prices” in design tab now will update the water prices as well (previously did not)
– Corrected main recipe report templates to provide better printouts and use slightly smaller fonts
– Dragging left side to resize window rapidly in Win 10 could cause a crash – corrected
– Fixed issue with font scaling on Win 10 causing blurry fonts – marked app as DPIAware to correct
– Corrected issue with notes field not scrolling properly using mouse wheel
– Corrected bug where zero boil time hops were not carried over to whirlpool
– Narrowed design screen display slightly by adjusting labels to accomodate those with narrow screens